Kamala Harris wants to fine companies that pay men more than women

fengpi · 2019-05-20T10:46:01+00:00

The U.S. senator from California says $180 billion would be generated over 10 years, with fines decreasing over time as companies strengthen their equal pay practices.

I don't think that will work, Kamala. Even if you take the position that "job titles, experience and performance" are irrelevant to determining pay, which is what you will be forced to argue. Oh, and you'll forbid companies from asking about prior pay. That'll go over well. Sure why not forbid companies from asking employees about their work experience as well because a man (gasp) might have more work experience and we can't allow such an unfair advantage to interfere with hiring more women and paying them more regardless of whether or not they show-up to work. If a male applicant ever had more work experience and more relevant education, that'd be unfair male privilege, so we can't allow him to exploit such patriarchal stuff.

Hey, and wasn't the Lily Ledbetter paycheck fairness act supposed to have solved everything by now? That's what I was told way back when. No? It didn't? The Weyj Gyap is actually just as stubbornly bad as it's ever been? Huh, funny that. I guess we need even more equal pay laws to outlaw the stuff which is already outlawed, which in turn was originally outlawed by something else. To make it triple-dog outlawed! And we need more #MeToo shit. More grrl pwr programs. More speech codes so we can fire men for back-talk. Special rooms for breastfeeding. Spa days and girls' nights out. You know: simple equality.

How about trophies for women who show-up to work? Yeah, we need trophies. Lots of trophies! Nothing inflates self-esteem like trophies. How about a big swimming pool of trophies for women to swim around in? Fireworks, too! Just for showing up on time. Confetti canons for punching in. Jazz band parades for punching out. Free hovercraft to float her back home.

Sure, why not. Also, you should fine companies for failing to cut a check to any random female passer-by who wants one. She says "I wantz me a check-magrrbl," and you give her the check. There's no excuse to deny her the stuff she says she wants. It would be sexist!

SirKolbath · 2019-05-20T11:29:59+00:00

Given that she fucked her boss to get promoted, an almost exclusively female privilege, I’m not sure what she’s upset about. Just have all the women in the workplace follow your example, Kamala.

runner557 · 2019-05-20T11:40:08+00:00

She's pandering. A lot of these Dems are pandering because they can't get any movement in the polls since way too many of them are running.

Ted8367 · 2019-05-20T12:10:33+00:00

Harris’ plan would require companies to disclose pay policies while applying for a mandatory “Equal Pay Certification” from the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. Companies that fail to achieve certification would be fined 1% of their profits for every 1% wage gap they allow to persist for work of equal value.

How will "equal value" be determined? By the market? Or by Kamala Harris?

mtcapri · 2019-05-20T12:46:15+00:00

Harris’ plan would require companies to disclose pay policies while applying for a mandatory “Equal Pay Certification” from the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. Companies that fail to achieve certification would be fined 1% of their profits for every 1% wage gap they allow to persist for work of equal value.

Two questions:

1.) How would "work of equal value" be calculated?

2.) Is this legislation gender-neutral; meaning, would companies also be fined if it was found they were paying women more than men?

Research has shown again and again that the pay gap is largely a myth and that the reasons women tend to be paid less is because they tend to work fewer hours, take time off to raise children, and be less assertive in salary negotiations.

Furthermore, I think it was at either the Guardian or the BBC that they conducted an internal investigation into pay inequality and found that more men than women were under-paid for the amount of work they contributed.

Demands for transparency are one thing, but I want proof that Kamala Harris's proposed legislation is (a) not going to give men the short end of the stick, just because they choose to put in extra hours at work, play the provider role more often, or argue for greater pay better than women do, and is (b) going to be gender-neutral, so that under-paid men benefit just as much as under-paid women.

2019-05-20T11:42:46+00:00

This will be great . Women will not be hired.

Ms. Harris’s plan would also force companies to report the overall pay and total compensation gap that exists between men and women, regardless of job titles, experience and performance.

andejoh · 2019-05-20T15:59:26+00:00

So I started reading it and thought it's essentially a useless law since there are literally 100s of equal pay laws when you consider all jurisdictions a person falls under. Still, I thought OK, but what will they complain about when all companies have achieved certification? Then I read.

"They would also be required to report the share of women who are among the company’s top earners, the total pay and total compensation gap that exists between men and women, regardless of job titles, experience and performance."

Why, the company has already supposedly achieved certification except to give them something irrelevant to complain about. Un case there was any doubt they ever intended to "fix" the problem.

BlueOrange22 · 2019-05-20T14:04:29+00:00

Which would be perfectly justified if that company was doing so unfairly, and discriminatory. However, what happens if a company has a higher average salary recorded for male workers due to nondiscriminatory factors? Example, studies show that men work for overtime. An employee that works more overtime deserves to be paid more. Would these factors be controlled for?

Lion_amongst_gods · 2019-05-20T18:34:45+00:00

Aaaaand also those that pay women more than men?? Huh? Huh?

DJ-Roukan · 2019-05-20T12:24:42+00:00

More would be fined for discrimination against men then women.

Another man-hating idiot spewing her blame.

Nothing new here.

2019-05-20T12:57:39+00:00

So if a man works overtime, but the woman doesn’t, the man doesn’t get any extra pay for the time.

Fuck Kamala. With a chainsaw.

tenchineuro · 2019-05-20T19:50:49+00:00

NEW YORK (AP) — Democratic presidential candidate Kamala Harris is unveiling a pay inequity proposal that aims to close the gender pay gap by holding corporations accountable when men are paid more than women.

Harris’ plan would require companies to disclose pay policies while applying for a mandatory “Equal Pay Certification” from the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. Companies that fail to achieve certification would be fined 1% of their profits for every 1% wage gap they allow to persist for work of equal value.

I think this is the best possible way to offshore pretty much everything. Who needs the tech industry and aircraft manufacturing, right? This is on top of the CA law requiring boardrooms to have a certain number of women, this law should fall to Unrue or civil rights laws.

Pathfinder24 · 2019-05-20T15:31:22+00:00

This is how trump might win. Dems will get greedy and put a far leftist up for vote.

2019-05-20T18:51:04+00:00

She is right on one thing, It would bring in $180 billion dollars. While businesses try and figure out how the hell are we going to make sure we have equal pay practices? It would be a moving target and litigation lawyers and the government would rake in the cash.

Of could when you look at the big picture and more and more companies head overseas to avoid the mess. Let's make is so hard to do business in America that businesses disappear.

2019-05-21T00:01:39+00:00

Well, she just shit herself out of any chance of being elected. Anyone who has tried to hire for senior tech positions knows that the issue is not "be fair about who you hire", but "how the fuck to I find someone with the right skills?" No corporate entity is going to back her crazy shit.

Also, the easiest solution is to fire all the low-paid women and replace them with low-paid men.

2019-05-21T00:03:04+00:00

I'll just leave this here: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/04/technology/google-gender-pay-gap.html

ZimbaZumba · 2019-05-21T18:15:05+00:00

She is not concerned about companies that pay women more than men?

Title	Kamala Harris wants to fine companies that pay men more than women
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