I'm just wondering what this subs opinion on the LGBTQ+ community is.

AtticusReznor · 2019-03-12T13:09:07+00:00

I don't think a sub can have an opinion but individuals can.

I have no issue with LGBTQ community. Each to their own. I don't care what any of your personal details are if you are a good person.

Reycara · 2019-03-12T13:57:19+00:00

I must be confused or something. Out of all the comments I read there was one person who said something that could be considered rude and you acknowledged it with a sarcastic response, however; all the other comments that actually gave reasons and participated in civil dialogue with you about it are the ones you consider not decent? Maybe this is exactly why people say they don’t like the movement.

Differing opinions displayed in a civil manner =/= indecent people

not-sorry- · 2019-03-12T12:42:19+00:00

I’m only against the victim mentality, and redefining words aspect of it. Other than that, like whoever you want, but don’t expect me to pretend like a girl is a guy or vice versa

jaesharp · 2019-03-12T14:57:40+00:00

Frankly, In regards to the LGBTQI+ communities I think r/MensRights's opinion is, if it could be said to have one, by and large, irrelevant. We focus on how stereotypically masculine presenting individuals are disadvantaged in our sexist society and how we might work towards a true equality of opportunity for everyone. Of course, being r/MensRights, we advocate most vocally for masculine presenting people because most of us here identify as or with that and/or experience the discrimination, double standards, and misandry first hand. That said, it doesn't matter who you are, how you present, who you love or how who you love presents - anyone is welcome if they want to contriute positively to and participate in the discussion. In general: be excellent to each other and party on.

Please don't judge all of us by the few who immediately responded to your post. We unfortunately get a lot of people coming in here trying to troll us and there are a ton more people who consider themselves men's rights activists who simply aren't represented here. I'm not going to apologise for any of the shit that got said elsewhere in the comments here - I can't; a lot of it is absolutely garbage and I'm disappointed.

If anybody here has a problem with what I've said... well, they can get fucked.

BobRufferwaffles · 2019-03-12T12:37:16+00:00

I don't have anything against them, I just despise the movement

bufedad · 2019-03-12T14:45:48+00:00

My daughter is a lesbian... and I hope she meets a girl that makes her happy.

Aside from that, live and let live. You leave me alone, and I'll leave you alone...

I don't care what you do, as long as it doesn't affect me in any way.

wheredowejumpguys · 2019-03-12T12:41:28+00:00

Personally, I am fine with them. It's okay. What I don't like is the radical LGBTQ+ stuff going on that labels you with transphobic and such when you just want to talk about stuff. For example, if I ask why it's okay for a man to transition to a woman and win all sports events easily, then I'm already transphobic. So the individuals are okay, but the movement sucks

emjaytheomachy · 2019-03-12T13:46:24+00:00

I view them the same as I view straight people.

However, if somebody calls me transphobic because I wouldn't date anybody who wasn't both born a woman and also still identifies as a woman, they can fuck off.

a-man-from-earth · 2019-03-12T15:48:58+00:00

I support people not getting discriminated for their sexual orientation.

Jadenent0623 · 2019-03-12T12:39:07+00:00

I’m fine with them, so long as they aren’t the stereotypical ones that like to shove their sexuality down your throat. Like, I’m fine with you, I don’t care if you’re gay, pansexual, trans or whatever but just be a respectable and respectful person like the rest of us are expected to me. Being “different” doesn’t give anyone an excuse to force their ideals on someone else. If they’re like anyone else I’m friends with, then I don’t care if they’re from the fucking moon.

omino23 · 2019-03-12T14:17:07+00:00

I don't think anyone here cares what you have to say, or what you do, or who you want to do it with, we are interested in Mens Rights.

You are not going to find a bunch of "allies" here, unless you are looking for allies to fight for Mens rights. Since none of your responses or your opening post are on topic I have to conclude you are just here to confirm your bias and farm some negative karma. Perhaps a fun story about the incels you can go back to your echo chamber with?

Some LGBTQ people are men, we are interested in their rights, but I don't think most people here are interested in playing gender and identity politics with you. Whatever kind of social experiment you thought you were going to pull off by posting here, give it up. Come back when you want to talk about Mens rights.

2019-03-12T14:22:15+00:00

Okay, but let me break it down by letter:

L: I have nothing against lesbians except for the man-hating ones.

G: I have nothing against gay dudes.

B: No problems.

T: I personally find it kind of gross but I don't think they should discriminated against in any way except for sports due to unfair advantages trans women have over cis women. The trans people who think I'm a bigot because I don't find trans women attractive are scum.

Q: Who cares

+: Whatever, don't care.

user_miki · 2019-03-12T15:22:28+00:00

So you demand we call you by preferred pronouns.I have nothing against trans, but I'm totally against compelled speech. These demands come only form trans activists.I know trans that don't agree with this compelled speech.I have seen this before from people that want privileges and power.Invent new language and shame people that don't abide to your invented rules and play the oppressed victim card.This is way of taking the moral high ground in a victimization scale that we see today with 3-4th gen feminists.On this scale white heterosexual men are at the bottom and are game for all above them.

You can see now the victimization Olympics competition Alyssa Milano the actress she is all the victims at once.

https://etcanada.com/news/429569/alyssa-milano-apologizes-if-her-controversial-tweet-offended-some-but-argues-nuance-is-important/

2019-03-12T16:36:44+00:00

People have diverse opinions. I have gay friends but I don't put em on pedastals either. Which means I won't use terms like faggot or cocksucker, but I'll use terms like marmite driller or chutney ferret or chocolate stabber in the right context, with someone who has a sense of humor about it.

Maito_Guy · 2019-03-12T17:35:38+00:00

It seems like you have come here to confirm your pre-concieved notions of this community and are performing an exercise in comfirmation bias. Pretty hypocritical to pre-judge a community on hearsay and then look for any excuse to dislike them when you seem to expect tolerance, acceptance for your community and absolute conformity to your viewpoints.

The vast majority of people here are fully accepting of gay, lesbian and bisexual people and we have many in the mens rights movement. When it comes to trans people it is a mixed bag but I would estimate a majority are fully accepting of trans and a decent amount are neutral to it. The problem is that trans people are incredibly rare and most people have never met one, the only time they see then is the feminist trans activist types that are insufferable authoritarians and so they have a negative perception. These people do more harm to the trans community than good. The other problem is due to ignorance of what a trans person even is. None of those problems are exclusive to MRA's. There are actually trans people in the MRM too, including one that is a very prominent activist(Theryn Meyer) although I am not sure she still does it.

You are using some of the same tactics they do. You will not change peoples minds by judging them as bigots for having misconceptions. You need to chill out, stop getting personally offended and explain to people why they are wrong. Most people here do not like the authoritarian LGBT activists.

Personally I have always been very interested in trans people, very supportive of them and consider myself an advocate for trans rights. I do not buy in to non-binary or multiple pronouns beyond he-she as there is no basis in reality for either. I do not like the activists either and think they do way more harm than good for the people they claim to represent. I am also pro gay, lesbian and bisexual people and would again consider myself an advocate for their rights.

2019-03-12T14:42:54+00:00

I'm bisexual, but I think the LGBTQRSTUVXYZ++- community is cancer

2019-03-12T15:18:49+00:00

The community? It isn't really a community though is it? When you refer to a group of people like that it's more of a political affiliation. Each to their own. But it's like saying what do you think of the 'Defence community'. Er? it's good and bad since it's composed of hundreds of thousands of individual human beings. What are you looking for? Validation? A fight?

turbulance4 · 2019-03-12T16:34:33+00:00

1) Of course! This sub should be inclusive of all types. I'd be happy if you felt welcome here.

2) this sub is for advancing the men's rights movement. Not for advocating LGBT rights, when they are unrelated to men's rights.

2019-03-12T17:09:33+00:00

We are pretty open to it, up to the point that it starts adding to the whole "oppression Olympics" stuff.

Be gay, be straight, be whatever... but I don't judge you on that and don't want to be judged on that myself.

content of character >>>> whatever else.

TatsuFluff · 2019-03-12T13:05:09+00:00

I have the same stance as my preChristian ancestors. Exile them from the childbearing community.

Mavrok9182002 · 2019-03-12T14:58:16+00:00

I have nothing against people like you, but I hate the radical ones who want to make gay and lesbian and 76 others a gender. It's not a gender it's sexual preference and a disorder.

TatsuFluff · 2019-03-12T16:40:40+00:00

Can we delete this post? OP isn't asking anyone about their opinion, all they're doing is demanding people accept everything the trans agenda wants and insulting people who don't.

Title	I'm just wondering what this subs opinion on the LGBTQ+ community is.
Author	TatsuFluff
Upvotes	2
Comments	106
Date	March 12, 2019 12:35 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/b079wb/im_just_wondering_what_this_subs_opinion_on_the/
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