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21 boys dead on last month due to circumcisions in South Africa. 1000 boys have lost their penis since 2005.

platesizedareola

December 17, 2018

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https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2018-12-17-reconstruction-is-an-option-for-botched-circumcision-victims/

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Title	21 boys dead on last month due to circumcisions in South Africa. 1000 boys have lost their penis since 2005.
Author	platesizedareola
Upvotes	73
Comments	36
Date	December 17, 2018 8:54 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/a73tmt/21_boys_dead_on_last_month_due_to_circumcisions/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/21-boys-dead-on-last-month-due-to-circumcisions-in.888143 https://theredarchive.com/post/888143

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[–]RockmanXX 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Spotted_Lady -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago* (34 children) | Copy Link

Well, I'm sorry. I think both the feminism subs and the male counterpart subs are all full of reactionary bigots (and if others want to include me in that description, well, I won't cry foul). Though to be honest, the male-focused subs will be less likely to ban me. They might DV me and ride me, but statistically less likely to ban.

While the exact boys in question might have grown up to be innocent, we have no way of knowing. Still, in places that are male-dominated with the worst men in the world, I can't help it that I can't empathize. In such places, a few less men seems to generally be better than a few more, though maybe one will buck the trend, be a real hero, and kill or reform a lot of the less than honorable men, but again, there's no way of knowing. If such males are gone, then there's no way to know who would have been such a hero. It's similar to the one anti-abortion argument that you might have killed whoever would cure cancer (or any other disease or problem).

[–]mikesteane 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

[–]Spotted_Lady -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

Again, I'm just a realist who has had to put up with a lot of men's nonsense. I'm a conservative who's reached similar but milder conclusions for different reasons.

Likewise I won't report such hateful, libelous comments as what you just made, even if the mods would do anything, since it's important that the world sees what kind of people that some of you guys are. I was making a compliment, and that only invited your hateful attack.

In the previous post and the first, I tried to agree in places, but it seems like here, you demand perfect adherence to your screed and deliberately cherry pick and ignore what supports the party line if you disagree with ANY of it. A good person would have mentioned that they agreed with the parts where I was strong enough to make concessions. Maybe that will be the last time I try to be nice to you.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

killing or letting innocent guys die just because the majority of the perpetrators of crimes are men? are you insane?

Again, I’m not a feminist, just a realist

who cares what you identify as, you aren‘t feminist. you are literally men-hating.

I’m a conservative

who cares what political spectrum you like more?

I was making a compliment,

TIL indirectly praising the death of innocent guys because of failed circumcision is a compliment. Your father/brother/son would be proud of you.

In the previous post and the first, I tried to agree in places, but it seems like here, you demand perfect adherence to your screed and deliberately cherry pick and ignore what supports the party line if you disagree with ANY of it. A good person would have mentioned that they agreed with the parts where I was strong enough to make concessions. Maybe that will be the last time I try to be nice to you.

what? care to explain? you edited your comment after the dislikes to appear somehow better. but you are still encouraging the death of innocent men because of overpopulation and crime. you tend to hold a grudge towards men in general, that‘s why you are getting dislikes.

[–]mikesteane 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I have read your text three times rn and I don’t understand what you are trying to say. can you talk normally please? to respond to your text, these are my points: every women should have the right to do an abortion. and every guy has the right to not get his foreskin cut off without his consent. it comes down to the argument:it‘s your body and you are not the one to judge who the bad guys are without knowing anything about them. or do you believe that every guy is a potential harrasser? You either respond with arguments or I will ignore you because you are talking just like a troll. You aren‘t a feminist or any male counterpart, to me you sound just like a shitty person. Shame on you if you have any kids or family, no matter their gender. my point is easy: stop changing the subject, you changed the subject by talking about rape, overpopulation and now abortion. we are talking about circumcision which is a ritual for young boys even in the western world and cutting their foreskin is not your business. if you are a woman, you wouldn‘t like a man to tell you that an abortion is illegal right? so let me decide over my own dick or gtfo.

[–]Spotted_Lady -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

I ALWAYS talk normally, and I was being nice to you. I NEVER changed the subject, nor was my first post to ANY person, but just me expressing myself and sharing my valid opinion. Only those who are less than bright have a need to reply to my post or DV it.

I'm not here to discuss the foreskin part at all, so you need to stop trying to get me to discuss that or debate ANYTHING at all. I am not here to give arguments or debate. If you don't like that, then you need to move on. I already said this sub was not for me as a hint to get others to NEVER post to me about it again. And I will stop defending myself when I stop getting attacks in my inbox.

I NEVER discussed ANY other topic, just mentioned them in passing as side issues to bolster the main point. Intellectuals can use things as examples without discussing them, but you don't seem smart enough to see the dynamics of the side issues without latching onto them and trying to force me to discuss them when that was never the intention.

No woman should ever have the right to have an abortion, unless raped or there are medical reasons. The ONLY valid way to not have a child is to avoid sex. I support traditional morality. A woman would never need an abortion if she didn't act like a whore by having ANY sex for non-procreative reasons. If you don't want pregnant or want sued for child support or even arrested, then DON'T have sex. And the biggest pro-abortion supporters are sexist MEN. That way they can rape, whore around, or cheat on their spouses without consequences, since they can force their victim or side partner to abort. But I will concede that making it legal did make it safer, since in the past, a bad man would just throw her down steps and kick her in the lower abdominal area. Now to can extort and coerce her into getting a legal abortion she is more likely to survive.

I already said have a good night, which is code for let's move on and never post to each other again.

Now, goodbye forever. I won't reply as long as I get no replies. As long as there are ANY male on female rapes in Africa, it would be absolutely immoral for me to support ANY man down there, as supporting any man's penis (used in most actual rapes) means betraying my gender and supporting what causes rape.

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[–]Spotted_Lady 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

That's funny. You guys call me an incel, and the feminists think I'm a TIM. Not sure what that means. Trans Identified Man?

Why not just consider me a spotted girl from another solar system? Hell, I'd love to be Asari. They are monogender. I saw a cute drawing of an Earthling father with an Asari girl, but if you know the story line, that is just cruel. I mean, for an Earthling to adopt a young Asari, that would mean never seeing your adoptive daughter grow up, and the girl having many foster parents. I mean, they live 600+ years, and take about 100 to be out of adolescence. Some of them hook up with Krogans. Why not? Krogans have a genetic mutation or virus that makes it very difficult to reproduce, and Asari are monogender and reproduce via either parthenogenesis or by mind-melding with another of nearly any species.

I might someday want to get an Asari costume. The most important part is the headpiece with the scalp tentacles. The rest can be done with makeup, even the face tattoos they get. Then add maybe a 3d-printed prop weapon and a cool outfit, such as an Asari gang uniform or a Cerberus uniform (like Comm. Shepard's crew).

[–]RapeMatters2 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

You guys call me an incel, and the feminists think I'm a TIM.

I didn't call you an incel. I said the rhetoric was familiar.

Similar to when some feminists say men should be kept in camps, it reminds you of circa 1930s German political parties. That doesn't make them literal nazis.

Why not just consider me a spotted girl from another solar system? Hell, I'd love to be Asari. They are monogender. I saw a cute drawing of an Earthling father with an Asari girl, but if you know the story line, that is just cruel. I mean, for an Earthling to adopt a young Asari, that would mean never seeing your adoptive daughter grow up, and the girl having many foster parents. I mean, they live 600+ years, and take about 100 to be out of adolescence. Some of them hook up with Krogans. Why not? Krogans have a genetic mutation or virus that makes it very difficult to reproduce, and Asari are monogender and reproduce via either parthenogenesis or by mind-melding with another of nearly any species.

I might someday want to get an Asari costume. The most important part is the headpiece with the scalp tentacles. The rest can be done with makeup, even the face tattoos they get. Then add maybe a 3d-printed prop weapon and a cool outfit, such as an Asari gang uniform or a Cerberus uniform (like Comm. Shepard's crew).

I'm not sure what all this is, but hey, knock yourself out. I'm a big fan of Mass Effect. Cerberus uniforms are quite excellent.

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