I'm sorry that happened to you. However, in this situations we need some way to differentiate between legitimate accusations and false ones and the best way we've found to do that is to allow the accused to confront the accuser. It's to test their accusation against known and discoverable facts.
Everyone should doubt accusations until proven otherwise or else we will be part of the machinations which destroy innocent people's lives.
If you were raped and did not report it, I question the validity of your claim. Just fir the fact you stated "Hey, I was in this situation and I got raped." brings to mind jodie Foster in The Accused. In my eyes she asked for it. Why was your situation and let me judge
How do we know she was legitimately raped? She could be lying for effect. Donald trump is correct. Show up with the police report or a very very very good reason it wasn't reported. Fear of death from attacker would be valid, but proof of violent threat must be produced
It's time to stop believing the victim until she proves she is the victim.
Why don't you understand that for most women, fear of reliving the traumatizing experience and being accosted by police officers, slut shamed, and in many cases winding up ostracized by peers IS a very very very very good reason TODAY, let alone way back then when "She was asking for it" was a solid political defense. Most women want to forget and move on, not spend weeks being interrogated and treated like a liar over what is easily one of the most painful things a human can go through. Cops are not always on your side, believe it or not, and there's mountains of accounts and evidence to show that reporting rapes can be nearly as awful for the victim as experiencing the attack itself.
Oh okay so you're a troll, glad to know I don't have to waste anymore energy lol. Move along people this guy's just a troll trying to make /r/mensrights look bad.
And I remind you that rape sex ia quite the fantasy for females these days. Just last year during #MeToo the first UK case thrown out was because police hid texts between the male and female where she expressed her rape fuck fantasies.
Having a rapist in jail is the new black for feminists.
Yes, and the situation I described is exactly a female asking for it? Why else would a fenale stupidly put herself in a dangerous situation where sex is likely to happen if she didn't want it to?
You either blame her poor choice or... Well, nothing else.
Rape sex is a thing females love. Just last year that ghomeshi guy in canada was found not guilty of violent rape sex becsue it was found out the women were into it and colluded with each other to concoct evidence so they could also have a rapist in jail.
3%,of rape convictions are legitimate rape. 7% are proven to n be false. The rest were not rape.
Lol... If a say a slut dancing sexy in a dark room full of drunk men and loud music is asking for trouble, it means a male is saying she is asking for trouble.
Personally, that was regret sex. Females who send out non verbal signals saying they are available for sex get fucked by the men she flirts with. Sounds like regret sex.
No, what I'm saying is if you feel ill and ask a man if you can use his hot shower than ask him to enter the shower naked to give you a back rub and he fucks you without you leaving any scratches or bruises on you, you're probably experiencing regret sex.
True story. The activist salg from America that Instagram Ed her supposed attack. She was obviously lying
Female who behave like sluts for men and have sex are not raped. I like to save the word rape for femlaes who are targeted by predatory rapist who plan and then take the opportunity. I don't use it for females who crawl into bed naked with a man for a cuddle
Women acting like sluts are giving non verbal cues to men that they are up for sex.
Feminism says men must understand a females non verbal cues. This has been established in the Asus ansara debacle.
If the music is loud and the female voice can not be heard, men must read non verbal cues. If one of this cues is a female dancing on a man's lap with no clothing clearly exposing her Vagina with no security about and her voice obscured by loud music, then the non verbal cues say 'fuck me'. Why else would a female expose herself to a male in such a manner?
Why would I ask a woman if she wants to fuck if she has her cunt in my face? Non verbal cue. If you don't want your snatch pounder, don't put it in my face.
You just don't seem to get it. I don't give a shit what happens to females who are asking for it. They havnt been nabbed off the street or been drugged or groomed as a child.
Drunk females and those acting like whores are responsible for what happens to their exposed cunt.
Duh... It's not rocket science..... Unless ur a female, in which case it may as well be rocket science.
Are you seriously comparing Salem witch trials to women who didn't report being sexually assaulted? This sub makes a lot of sense most of the time but some posts are totally bonkers.
No, because the historical context and current landscape are completely different. Witches don't exist, sexual molesters do. If you can't see the difference between a magical and ridiculous 'crime' and real allegations that don't need to be believed in their face value but certainly deserve to be looked into then you're just one of the deniers.
No one has ever been a witch or performed dark magic. But lots of men and women have been forced into things and didn't get the opportunity to speak out due to multitude of reasons. I'm glad they're coming forward now so we can hear them out and look at what they have to say and then decide rather than them remaining silent.
Justice system between 1600s and 2018 isn't remotely comparable. This has been my original point. Either way you try to bend it, it's not similar at all.
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I'm sorry that happened to you. However, in this situations we need some way to differentiate between legitimate accusations and false ones and the best way we've found to do that is to allow the accused to confront the accuser. It's to test their accusation against known and discoverable facts.
Everyone should doubt accusations until proven otherwise or else we will be part of the machinations which destroy innocent people's lives.
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If you were raped and did not report it, I question the validity of your claim. Just fir the fact you stated "Hey, I was in this situation and I got raped." brings to mind jodie Foster in The Accused. In my eyes she asked for it. Why was your situation and let me judge
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How do we know she was legitimately raped? She could be lying for effect. Donald trump is correct. Show up with the police report or a very very very good reason it wasn't reported. Fear of death from attacker would be valid, but proof of violent threat must be produced
It's time to stop believing the victim until she proves she is the victim.
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Why don't you understand that for most women, fear of reliving the traumatizing experience and being accosted by police officers, slut shamed, and in many cases winding up ostracized by peers IS a very very very very good reason TODAY, let alone way back then when "She was asking for it" was a solid political defense. Most women want to forget and move on, not spend weeks being interrogated and treated like a liar over what is easily one of the most painful things a human can go through. Cops are not always on your side, believe it or not, and there's mountains of accounts and evidence to show that reporting rapes can be nearly as awful for the victim as experiencing the attack itself.
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But what if she was asking for it?
If a female doesn't want to spend weeks being interrogated to have a man sent to prison who raped her, I wonder how serious the rape was?
Rape is a serious criminal offense. If females don't want to take it seriously, why should I?
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Oh okay so you're a troll, glad to know I don't have to waste anymore energy lol. Move along people this guy's just a troll trying to make /r/mensrights look bad.
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If someone raped me I would go to the police immediately with proof. Not have a show first and wash my clothes
Now fuckoff
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You already revealed your hand as a troll why keep trying?
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Who said that?
And I remind you that rape sex ia quite the fantasy for females these days. Just last year during #MeToo the first UK case thrown out was because police hid texts between the male and female where she expressed her rape fuck fantasies.
Having a rapist in jail is the new black for feminists.
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Yes, and the situation I described is exactly a female asking for it? Why else would a fenale stupidly put herself in a dangerous situation where sex is likely to happen if she didn't want it to?
You either blame her poor choice or... Well, nothing else.
Rape sex is a thing females love. Just last year that ghomeshi guy in canada was found not guilty of violent rape sex becsue it was found out the women were into it and colluded with each other to concoct evidence so they could also have a rapist in jail.
3%,of rape convictions are legitimate rape. 7% are proven to n be false. The rest were not rape.
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We now know that some females consent to rape sex than say they didnt consent later. We have proof of this.
Rape fantasy is not about a man dominating a woman. Its about a female fantasy to be dominated by force.
So long as rape sex and 50 shades of grey are a thing, it diminishes the viability of a fenales rape claims.
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Did you see the movie? She was in a dark back room with loud music wearing a denim micro mini while sexy dancing for a group of drunk men.
The only females I'm aware of that get away with doing that in relative safety are strippers surrounded by club bouncers.
She asked for it. The guys got punished, but it doesn't change the fact that has SHE NOT BEHAVED THAT WAY, SHE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN GANG RAPED.
Females need to accept the consequences for their actions or they will just get raped over and over for sending out the wrong non verbal signals.
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Lol... If a say a slut dancing sexy in a dark room full of drunk men and loud music is asking for trouble, it means a male is saying she is asking for trouble.
Personally, that was regret sex. Females who send out non verbal signals saying they are available for sex get fucked by the men she flirts with. Sounds like regret sex.
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No, what I'm saying is if you feel ill and ask a man if you can use his hot shower than ask him to enter the shower naked to give you a back rub and he fucks you without you leaving any scratches or bruises on you, you're probably experiencing regret sex.
True story. The activist salg from America that Instagram Ed her supposed attack. She was obviously lying
Female who behave like sluts for men and have sex are not raped. I like to save the word rape for femlaes who are targeted by predatory rapist who plan and then take the opportunity. I don't use it for females who crawl into bed naked with a man for a cuddle
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Women acting like sluts are giving non verbal cues to men that they are up for sex.
Feminism says men must understand a females non verbal cues. This has been established in the Asus ansara debacle.
If the music is loud and the female voice can not be heard, men must read non verbal cues. If one of this cues is a female dancing on a man's lap with no clothing clearly exposing her Vagina with no security about and her voice obscured by loud music, then the non verbal cues say 'fuck me'. Why else would a female expose herself to a male in such a manner?
Duh!!!!
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Why would I ask a woman if she wants to fuck if she has her cunt in my face? Non verbal cue. If you don't want your snatch pounder, don't put it in my face.
You just don't seem to get it. I don't give a shit what happens to females who are asking for it. They havnt been nabbed off the street or been drugged or groomed as a child.
Drunk females and those acting like whores are responsible for what happens to their exposed cunt.
Duh... It's not rocket science..... Unless ur a female, in which case it may as well be rocket science.
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Are you seriously comparing Salem witch trials to women who didn't report being sexually assaulted? This sub makes a lot of sense most of the time but some posts are totally bonkers.
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No, because the historical context and current landscape are completely different. Witches don't exist, sexual molesters do. If you can't see the difference between a magical and ridiculous 'crime' and real allegations that don't need to be believed in their face value but certainly deserve to be looked into then you're just one of the deniers.
No one has ever been a witch or performed dark magic. But lots of men and women have been forced into things and didn't get the opportunity to speak out due to multitude of reasons. I'm glad they're coming forward now so we can hear them out and look at what they have to say and then decide rather than them remaining silent.
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Justice system between 1600s and 2018 isn't remotely comparable. This has been my original point. Either way you try to bend it, it's not similar at all.
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