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Nicki Minaj ex boyfriend says she STABBED him. Media reaction? Bury the story and don't report it. Notice headline phrases it as a man making a claim. Funny how they only insist on automatically believing stores of abuse when a woman is the victim, not the perpetrator.

Rethgil

August 15, 2018
423 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/nicki-minaj-safaree-samuel-stabbing-ex-boyfriend-twitter-argument-a8492996.html
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Title Nicki Minaj ex boyfriend says she STABBED him. Media reaction? Bury the story and don't report it. Notice headline phrases it as a man making a claim. Funny how they only insist on automatically believing stores of abuse when a woman is the victim, not the perpetrator.
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Rethgil

Upvotes 423
Comments 51
Date August 15, 2018 9:36 PM UTC
(7 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/97mamx/nicki_minaj_ex_boyfriend_says_she_stabbed_him/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/nicki-minaj-ex-boyfriend-says-she-stabbed-him.896096
https://theredarchive.com/post/896096
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Comments

[–]superzepto 36 points37 points38 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Holy shit, the comments on his tweet.

"There's two sides to every fucking story, what did he do to get stabbed?"

[–]Spectre_GD 26 points27 points28 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Imagine if I said “There’s two sides to every story, what did she do to get raped?”

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He mansplained something to her so he deserved it. /s

[–]Rethgil[S] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Only women get automatically believed.

Men get automatically blamed.

Feminist culture 2018

Even here, the high general votes and the subject of a psycho icon for certain feminists has resulted in a few loonies from other subs posting crap in response.

[–]mwobuddy 46 points47 points48 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Its not like this is inconceivable. The newspaper is about headlines that pull eyeballs. If a woman is claimed as victim, everyone wants to know. If a man is, "meh".

[–]Rethgil[S] 14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

You're right in pointing out the misandrist bias in mass media today.

[–]mwobuddy 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I think the issue is "is it really the media, or is the media slave to the whim of the people?". They just give the people what they want. If misandry didn't sell, it'd disappear.

[+]edwardnatas1 points 7 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

A media outlet can push an agenda. For many it's their whole purpose.

[–]TheImpossible1 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

CNN comes to mind.

[–]Rethgil[S] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So the majority of people are man hating. And media follows suit. So both are to blame in that scenario.

It still means media are a problem.

And that isn't what happens-there is absolutely an anti male bias in media regardless of what their audience wants.

Countless female journalists in news media are openly hardcore feministso and there's also unprecedented numbers of White Knights too.

That is a clear, distinct, specific bias.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd say it's a bit of both. The media is a reflection of societal norms but the MSM is also incredibly pro war. It's hard to be pro war when you recognize the primary victims of war have inherent value.

[–]TheShShCreature 15 points16 points17 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

This is the same music community that champion Rihana for fighting domestic abuse... smh.

[–]WaxterJ 33 points34 points35 points 7 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

I am gonna say exactly what I would if the genders were reversed- we need proof for any allegation like this to be taken seriously.

[–]Youwishh 24 points25 points26 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

If this was reversed the guy would lose his job, all credibility and then some, without proof.

[–]WaxterJ 14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Not trying to say that's not the case, but that doesn't make it right on either side.

[–]reereeeees 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Consistency is key

[–]Rethgil[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Oh I'm so sure you take as much effort to post in the feminist sub to demand posters wait and see when a man is accused of the same thing....

[–]WaxterJ 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Nah, I just dont go on feminist subs... I dont see why literal equality, which is what I'm suggesting, is being attacked.

If equality is what this sub is for, which I always thought it was, then my comment is a best case scenario for how any case like this - no matter the gender at fault - is treated.

[–]Rethgil[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Riiiiigbt-so your whole claim as to why you posted doesn't actually hold up to any kind of scrutiny or consistency then? Okaaaaaaay.....

[–]skepticalbob 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Chris Brown didn't. And we know that happened.

[–]Rethgil[S] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

So you're seriously denying there's a bias iin believing or reporting male suffering in our culture? !

I guess the post must have crossed over into the general Reddit area which explains the high white knight bullshit replies from some. Naming no names, of course.

The issue, as clearly stated, is HOW it was reported. Really takes a lot to try to spin that into fake devils advocacy in a Men's Rights sub.

[–]WaxterJ 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Nope, not denying that first bit. I just think we should be consistent with how we treat any sort of serious allegation like this.

Dude, it's not fake devils advocacy. I just want all the facts before we jump into a witch hunt. If it gets proven, then I'll gladly despise Minaj. Until it is, shes innocent until proven guilty.

[–]Rethgil[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Glad you admit the main point of the original post is accurate.

If you wish to try to spin the debate into different misleading unrelated areas that's up to you.

But at least you agree and finally admitted theirs a huge female bias in media and our culture.

[–]WaxterJ 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Definitely agree on the bias bit. I commented not to disagree, but to make a side note that I felt was important

[–]thrway_1000 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Archive -- https://archive.is/luEvS

[–]shiny_verse 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Man gets attacked: conspiracy to sequester. Woman gets attacked: fake news. Gtfo with your logic.

[–]Rethgil[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

From a supporter of the 'free the nipple' campaign.

Yep, safe to say the original post has definitely been viewed by clear opposes of mens rights.

[–]TheImpossible1 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Why don't we organize a boycott of her God awful music.

[–]chadwickofwv 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I highly doubt anyone here listens to it to begin with. Enjoying that type of music requires a low level of intellectual ability.

[–]TheImpossible1 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Harsh, but fair.

[–]oaky180 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's not true. I can't stand it but I know some intelligent people who enjoy it. Why they enjoy it I can only try and understand, but they do anyway

[–]Beltox2pointO 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Couldn't give two shits about media bias. Legal bias is what matters.

[–]Pyromed 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Unfortunately one somewhat plays into the other. Our society and therefore democracy is informed or misinformed by the media. Without accurate information people can't vote on issues that concern them and therefore no laws or processes will change.

[–]Venomrod 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Until a jury of your peers finds you guilty for being a creepy male.

[–]Beltox2pointO 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Umm, yea that's the point.

[–]Venomrod 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I guess what I meant was, that media bias predicts what a jury would decide. Quite right.

[–]Beltox2pointO -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Why would celebrity outrage media decide law cases exactly? What kind of logic is that...

[–]Rethgil[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You are clearly just being difficult as nobody in their right mind who cares for mens rights could be so stupid yet claim to know the basics of related issues.

[–]Venomrod -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What the hell? Really?

[–]Rethgil[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think the troll just revealed their true face. Probably best we ignore them now

[–]Rethgil[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Then you've misunderstood it if you seriously think public perception doesn't influence jury decisions and law making.

Why are you so blinkered on such a transparent issue?

[–]Beltox2pointO 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not a transparent issue, you're conflating celebrity gossip media with actual legal proceedings.

It's not being celebrated, he obviously didn't press any real charges.

[–]Rethgil[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Come back when you've been plastered across a front page for some bullshit female accusation before any proof has been laid out

[–]Beltox2pointO 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I would love that! I've always wanted to sue for slander/libel. That would be great fun.

Still not a problem that matters. Headlines get sales.

[–]Rethgil[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm sure you can find many male victims who have had their lives ruined who would love to either swap places with you, or 'express' how they feel about you being so passive aggressive and flippant over male suffering.

Bet you're a real lovely person to know in real life aren't you? The literal definition of a troll. Someone who tries to provoke reactions due to their own lonely inability to seek healthy attention.

[–]Beltox2pointO 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Gees you're touchy.

Bad shit happens, but if someone lies about something you did you have recourse.

Celebrity media doesn't have anything to do with false accusations, you're just being a tool.

[–]mrsuperguy 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Notice headline phrases it as a man making a claim

That's exactly what it is. He's alleging that she stabbed him and she's denying it. So far (going just off of this article) there's not a lot of reason to swing either way due to a lack of any evidence other than the words of those involved.

Also note how this article talks about the weinstein allegations. This isn't unique to allegations against men by women.

[–]Rethgil[S] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Let's get to the actual issue.

Are you denying a female bias in media reporting where a woman makes a claim about a man, compared to vice versa?

[–]mrsuperguy 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm on the fence here. I absolutely am aware that much of social media has this bias. And that op-eds can be very biased as well (owen Jones is a good case in point). But I'm not sure that overall there is an unfair bias favouring women. I am very open to being shown otherwise though.

[–]Philip8000 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'll give him credit for his courage. He knew what the response was likely going to be and spoke out anyway. If a man is abused, people ask what he did to deserve it.

I'll know attitudes are changing when women like her start suffering consequences for this behavior.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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