Men everywhere except China commit far more suicides than women. And yet it is only in the West that it is taken as indication of men's problems.
I remember Jordan Peterson crying about suicide of young men on BBC, and I also remember Maajid Nawaz agreeing with Peterson on his own on LBC. There are many other semi-mainstream who have raised their concerns about male suicide, I'm too lazy to google them now.
But these same Jordan Peterson and Maajid Nawaz will tell you that Islam horribly oppresses women, even though in Islamic countries men also commit suicide 3 times as often on average. And I'm pretty sure that Peterson and Nawaz consider women to be oppressed not just in Islamic but in all countries outside of the West.
Sorry, but male suicide either means something or it means nothing. If it means something, it means something everywhere. If it means nothing, it means nothing also everywhere. (Same goes with disparities in life expectancy, violence, homelessness, sentencing, education, war casualties... which are all in favor of women everywhere, including in Islamic countries.)
Peterson and Nawaz are heroes on this subreddit. That's why I'm bringing this up.
By the way, I'm white and non-Muslim, just in case AltRight idiots are lurking around here.
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Who in the west said it is not an indicator of problems men face in other parts of the world? I would venture that a great many men in Islamic countries do not in anyway support the often violent oppression of women that is common in their world. The problem is if those men do not participate, at least publicly, they might themselves die as punishment and for offending "Allah."
Do you suggest that people like Peterson would be wholly welcomed and allowed to say what he does in Iran and they simply don't because suicide is different there? Do you think that because the people who will cut your head off in the Middle East do not allow this kind of conversation that it makes it an invalid topic here? Perhaps the fact that for centuries men were forced to commit suicide to "save face" in many cultures, like Japan, it is not seen as something can freely talk about without being seen as weak? Many times if you refused ritual seppuku you would be buried to your neck and people would take turns, over days, cutting your head off with a bamboo saw.
Your augment, quite frankly, makes no sense.
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SPIN BABY SPIN! Glossing headlines without actual research makes you look foolish. Ciao Pinocchio!
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Apparently yourself! The only thing you seem to want to do is dismiss the horrors women face in many Islamic countries. I am still waiting for you to answer the questions. All you want to do is make false accusations and defend Muslims as if they were actually attacked. You completely ignored the part where I said that type of life causes emotional anguish for the men who have to carry out this way of life or face life altering, or even ending, punishments themselves. ie: they are victims of their cultural... not an attack on Muslims. But nice try Pinocchio!
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