Why does it have to be either-or?

RapeMatters · 2018-05-18T21:50:24+00:00

We really don’t deny women have issues - so I’m not sure where you get that.

That being said, one of the reasons I, personally, take issue with feminism is the massive attempt to bury awareness of (and thereby protect) women who commit rape and domestic violence. I can’t abide that.

HiredMind · 2018-05-18T22:04:17+00:00

Why are there no specifics here?

theedgeofthelord · 2018-05-19T00:31:45+00:00

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DavidByron2 · 2018-05-18T22:02:03+00:00

Why have I seen so many MRAs deny women face any issues?

Because they don't. Disagree? Try naming one.

Why do so many feminists argue when I mention issues men face?

Because they are bigots.

Btw notice the difference in what you said there. You said with feminists you name actual issues. With MRA you don't. Why? Because there are no female issues to mention. And that's why I am challenging you to name some.

Im posting this in both r/mensrights AND r/askfeminists

22 minutes.... are you banned there yet?

Btw if you're interested I used to go round asking feminists to name what they thought was the top issue facig women and the result over about a hundred or so people polled was (if I recall about right):

(1) Women don't have the vote -- or "only" got the vote 100 years ago

(2) Women but not men are victims of domestic violence

(3) Women but not men are raped all the time

(4) Women are paid less for the exact same work as men ("wage gap")

Oh what was the last one on the top five list.... it was something else that was fucking stupid. Oh abortion that's it.

(5) Women but not men are forced by the state to have children they don't want

Do you see what I mean by having no issues?

I'm not even kidding about the vote btw. That was the number one answer I got. Even I was shocked and I knew how trucking stupid and bigoted feminists were but it just seemed bizarrely idiotic. Like do you not realize women were given the vote a century ago? It's crazy but I swear to god that was a very popular answer that I got.

PowerToAnnihilate · 2018-05-20T02:02:35+00:00

women face issues... thats just obvious.

Men on the other hand face lots of LEGAL issues, like circumcision only being legal for men.

that is something that needs addressed ASAP. Much quicker than whatever unequally of outcome or already illegal acts that feminists talk about.

thrway_1000 · 2018-05-18T21:54:39+00:00

Because feminism is a hate movement and promotes that. There is nothing here that opposes actual equal rights. There's plenty of feminist propaganda against actual equal rights - the now talk about "equity" (which is bullshit) instead of equality.

Alphonetic · 2018-05-18T22:36:00+00:00

This is likely because the men’s rights movement tends to focus on men’s issues rather than women’s, which is a given based on the name. Feminism has had the claim of promoting “equal rights,” with the idea that men have no legitimate issues, and if they do, it must be viewed from the feminist perspective, which inherently favors women and bases the standard of behavior on what women think without consideration for the male perspective.

We usually don’t talk about women’s issues also because they’re practically non-existent. Abortion is probably the only one I can think of, and even then, men don’t typically have a choice in this regard (they must cater to her so long as she has that child if she so wishes).

mgm-survivor · 2018-05-18T22:15:47+00:00

For me, it is really simple. It is legal to mutilate male children's genitals, but illegal to do the same to a woman. This is sick, sadistic pedophillic sexism against men. Literally, by some sick twisted corruption, legal to chop half of the nerves of a baby's dick.

This is a disgusting society, and the fact that not every fucking mouth isn't screaming to make this a crime, and instead bitching about getting cooties in the office is a testament at the real inequality entitlement in the first world female. They have my support once they ban together to outlaw that. Prove they aren't wretched monsters oblivious to male suffering happening around them.

Nude-eh · 2018-05-19T14:31:49+00:00

Reaction-ism. Extremism. Tribalism. Stupidity. etc.

msleeduon · 2018-05-20T11:37:12+00:00

So. OP. You got responses from both subs.

Did either one convince you more?

Razorbladekandyfan · 2018-05-20T14:53:33+00:00

Why is it that women's issues are addressed on a government level and mens arent?

Razorbladekandyfan · 2018-05-20T14:54:28+00:00

Why do both sides have to make this an either-or issues, denying the other side? - another concern troll post "oh mras and mens issues are just like feminists, and women's issues".

theedgeofthelord · 2018-05-19T05:08:50+00:00

Look at my ERM post. I want to make a group called Equal rights movement, which is not gender specific.

Title	Why does it have to be either-or?
Author	Corneba
Upvotes	0
Comments	52
Date	May 18, 2018 9:39 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/8kgqfc/why_does_it_have_to_be_eitheror/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/why-does-it-have-to-be-either-or.900978 https://theredarchive.com/post/900978

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