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Kit Harington Says He Was ‘Wrong’ to Complain About ‘Sexism Against Men’

seraph85

October 23, 2017
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/r/MensRights
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/kit-harington-says-wrong-complain-sexism-against-men-173502240.html
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Title Kit Harington Says He Was ‘Wrong’ to Complain About ‘Sexism Against Men’
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seraph85

Upvotes 141
Comments 34
Date October 23, 2017 7:12 PM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/78a2fn/kit_harington_says_he_was_wrong_to_complain_about/
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[–]seraph85[S] 128 points129 points130 points 8 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

I'm very sad to see he was shamed into apologizing for saying this in the 1st place.

[–]The__Tren__Train 34 points35 points36 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

must be that 'male privilege' that we keep hearing about

[–]TigPlaze 21 points22 points23 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. I was just about to say the same thing.

[–]LastManSittingg 17 points18 points19 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The actor pointed out he doesn’t feel that his situation is comparable to what women face, in light of numerous allegations of sexual harassment and assault against such Hollywood figures as Harvey Weinstein.

Perhaps Kit should watch "An Open Secret" about the epidemic of sexual abuse against boys in Hollywood.

Though the film focusses on male perpetrators, a music journalist who worked in Hollywood for ten years said most of the procurers are women, and I'd be surprised if there weren't plenty of female perps too.

Anyway it doesn't matter who the perp is -- the victims in the documentary are still boys (no doubt there are plenty of female victims as well -- perhaps if the director focussed on them the documentary would have gotten some attention).

Feminists are the biggest "derailers" on the planet. They claim that mean need to talk about their problems, then when we do they accuse us of "whataboutism" and drawing attention away from female problems. They even have the audacity to claim that when men and boys suffer discrimination it is actually "benevolent sexism" against women.

When you view the sexes as "at war" with each other, as feminists do (they absurdly believe that men are their "class enemies"), it is completely unsurprising that they attempt to claim "superior" victimhood status on every single issue while marginalizing male suffering. An actual "gender equality" movement would have no problem focussing on male issues.

[–]glass_tumbler 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Very sad that if somebody wants roles and work they have to pander to corporate interests.

[–]imbecile 76 points77 points78 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

At that time, I did feel objectified, and now I’ve learned how to control that.

Why can't women do that?

The entertainment industry is probably one with the best gender ratio balance out there. Which kinda seems strange considering how sexist and creepy it is, and how wide spread favors for sex is there.

But maybe not so strange. One thing you can definitely say about the tech industry and the engineering/science fields in general is that favors for sex is very rare there, almost unheard of.
And a less than generous mind may suggest that this is the very reason you don't see so many women there: it's not easily possible to advance careers with the female power to climb hierarchies with sex there.

I mean I have seen it many times how confused and irritated many women get when they are confronted with a people and a situation where they can't use flirting and sex to get something. Like being shot in the knee, they are deeply hurt and crippled by it, like losing a limb.

Ok, that rant went a little off topic.

[–]mwobuddy 14 points15 points16 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why can't women do that? The entertainment industry is probably one with the best gender ratio balance out there. Which kinda seems strange considering how sexist and creepy it is, and how wide spread favors for sex is there. But maybe not so strange. One thing you can definitely say about the tech industry and the engineering/science fields in general is that favors for sex is very rare there, almost unheard of. And a less than generous mind may suggest that this is the very reason you don't see so many women there: it's not easily possible to advance careers with the female power to climb hierarchies with sex there. I mean I have seen it many times how confused and irritated many women get when they are confronted with a people and a situation where they can't use flirting and sex to get something. Like being shot in the knee, they are deeply hurt and crippled by it, like losing a limb. Ok, that rant went a little off topic.

This in its entirety. If Kit harrington can 'control how he feels so he doesn't feel objectified anymore'... whats good the gander is good for the goose (women).

[–]The__Tren__Train 48 points49 points50 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

sounds like someone feels his career being threatened.

[–]mymraccount_ac 18 points19 points20 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a double edged sword though isn't it. How long before some feminist decides he's just acting as male feminist to get his way, a wolf in sheep's clothing, and then starts a #metoo campaign of bullshit against him.

[–]MehitsjustCharlie 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Got to finish up that last season of thrones with the OP love interest that might get you roasted via dragon for not bending the knee. Shoutout to Dem Tarly bois!

[–]somefinfishy 58 points59 points60 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Fucking knee bender

[–]CountVonVague 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

^ yup

[–]mwobuddy 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Its Fookin', ya cunt.

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points24 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

White Knights! White Knights everywhere!

[–]HeForeverBleeds 20 points21 points22 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Unfortunately, I'm not surprised in the least. Being a popular, well-liked mainstream celebrity and speaking out on the behalf of men's rights is still mutually exclusive, because anyone who does so is going to get hated and shamed until they recant

To say that sexism against men doesn't matter because sexism against women also happens is derailing. It's not even true that women necessarily have it worse when it comes to sexual assault or sexual harassment or sexual objectification

Women do the same thing to men nearly just as often as the other way around (read: "Sexual offending by women is surprisingly common"). The different is that even when men do speak out about women sexually assaulting or harassing or objectifying them, they're shamed into silence by "women have it worse, stop complaining!" or also "what are you an overly-sensitive fag? Stop complaining!" like he was

[–]Lethn 13 points14 points15 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The actor pointed out he doesn’t feel that his situation is comparable to what women face, in light of numerous allegations of sexual harassment and assault against such Hollywood figures as Harvey Weinstein.

Just.... Why? Is his career really riding on the whims of feminist ideology that much? Given the way he has backtracked on this issue so much it seems so. For future reference everybody, objectification, sexual harassment and assault are three entirely separate subjects and he was talking about objectification in that article, I remember reading through it.

It's these fucking feminists that are trying to blur the lines so they can have a monopoly over gender issues and claim that men's issues don't matter, they're a bunch of manipulative scumbags.

[–]AnarAchronist 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The weinstein incident was the shot that demonstrated the extent of power of the new elites. Everyone in hollywood is trying to tow the line before the inquisition comes for their heads also.

[–]Iskald_ 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Toe

[–]AnarAchronist -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You need to come down off of your pedal stool.

[–]unbelievablepeople 10 points11 points12 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's stupid that his comments are being judged in the context of Harvey Weinstein. Harrington said months ago that he sometimes feels objectified when he's required to go shirtless for a role. That is a completely valid thing for him to feel. Now, people are saying, "A man taking his shirt off is nowhere near as bad as what women had to go through because of what Harvey Weinstein did!" and so he felt the need to apologize. And that's dumb. Just because someone else went through something worse doesn't mean what he expressed about his own experiences wasn't legitimate.

[+]SaudiMRA1 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

Objectification is a double edged sword. Which women are more objectified, ugly or pretty ones? Probably pretty ones. So are they more oppressed? Well, http://www.businessinsider.com/beautiful-people-make-more-money-2014-11

[–]AnarAchronist 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I was just thinking of this the other day.

We hear the old argument "you cant be sexist against men because sexism is class oppression" whilst they lightly concede that individual discrimination happens to men based on sex.

But of course when you push for examples of systemic discrimination you are shown individual examples, or studies of groups that when broken down revert to individual examples.

So where is this evidence of systemic sexism? The patriarchy of course as its just self evident.

*slow clap.

[–]Greg_W_Allan 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They haven't a clue what "system" means.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Objectification is still objectification, even if there are some upsides to it.

[–]diarrhea_of_the_moth 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

All people are objects, regardless of whether they believe they are ethereal non-physical beings emanating from an enlightened spiritual realm. It should not be taboo to consider someone as an object, for that is what they are.

[–]Sasha_ 21 points22 points23 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You know nothing, John Snow.

[–]gabriot 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Jon

[–]Tedesche 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thankfully, the comments are overwhelmingly against this apology. He may have been pressured into apologizing by some people (I suspect the Hollywood crowd), but the general population isn't buying it.

Specifically, he's bought into the "of women have it worse, men can't complain" argument, which is pretty damn stupid. Not impressed with your grasp of logic Mr. Harrington....

[–]SpeaksTruthToPower 6 points7 points8 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Spineless simpering wussy. This is why I think we won't succeed. Every time someone of note makes even the slightest noise towards men's issues, the Vagina Establishment cracks the whip and said man folds. Pathetic.

[–]Vandechoz 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

At least Shatner has doubled down. I think it just requires guys who are old enough that their career is already more of a legacy than a source of necessary income.

[–]ThePigmanAgain 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What a massive pussy. Fuck you, you pommy twit.

[–]BruceCampbell123 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He bent the knee.

[–]AnarAchronist 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Since Weinstein was toppled, a new order has been set up in hollywood. I imagine all the men who made even the slightest infraction against the narrative will be professing how sorry they are and didnt mean it, or will just stop acting as work no longer seems to come their way.

The Weinstein incident was a demonstration of power of the new rulers of hollywood.

[–]nisutapasion 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Spineless

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