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New suit for women company objectifies men in advertisements.

DolphinsAreOk

September 14, 2017
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Title New suit for women company objectifies men in advertisements.
Author

DolphinsAreOk

Upvotes 102
Comments 30
Date September 14, 2017 8:04 AM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/700v4r/new_suit_for_women_company_objectifies_men_in/
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Comments

[–][deleted] 79 points80 points81 points 8 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

I don't think this is a big deal. Obviously "if the sexes were reversed" blah blah but I mean, really who cares.

Glad to see this brought up for the principle of it but I don't think seeing naked, attractive, sexualized people in ads is a problem on any level.

[–]Spektr44 29 points30 points31 points 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Same here. I mean, if people are being hypocrites about this, then that sucks. But I'm not offended by this. Actually I think it'd be nice if society started regarding male bodies as aesthetically pleasing enough to pull this off without it seeming like a joke.

[–]bufedad 25 points26 points27 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I'm not offended by this. I'm offended by the double standard.

[+]idnawnhyewwicbl1 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

Some but not all women complain about objectifying women. Some but not all men complain about objectifying men. What's the double standard here?

[–]bufedad 10 points11 points12 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

One's acceptable and one's not?

[+]idnawnhyewwicbl1 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

They both happen so they're clearly both acceptable...

[–]bufedad 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

With the exception that one violates the law in some countries and the other does not.

[–]andejoh 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What's the double standard here?

In general the women who complain about ads objectifying women have no problem or even sometimes support ads that objectify men.

[–]HeForeverBleeds 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Of course, people are definitely being hypocrites about it

But I agree that it'd be nice if society started regarding male bodies as aesthetically pleasing. The stereotype of men being dirty, ugly barbarians with poor grooming / hygiene habits (hence why women are called the "fairer" sex) is a discrimination I see far more often than sexualizing men

[–]sakura_drop 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree; these ads look good, the guy is hot, and the sexiness isn't being portrayed in a jokey or satirical manner.

However, I feel exactly the same as /u/bufedad: it's the double standard that's the kicker. I'd be genuinely surprised if there were many guys who would be #offended by these. Stuff like those links you posted - so shameless. I'm a chick who actually enjoys sexualisation (to a degree, I mean we all have our individual limits) be it in video games, movies, whatever. Do some push it to the point where it actually does become kinda juvenile and a tad lame? Sure. But I'll take the Lara Croft with the massive jugs and booty shorts over the plain looking, dull as dishwater weakling who's currently got the Tomb Raider mantle.

Anyone remember those Diet Coke ads from the mid-90s where a group of women would perv over a hot'n'sweaty hunk taking a swig from the can with 'I Just Wanna Make Love To You' playing? I often think of those when this stuff comes up. That was the 90s, people!

[–]Luchadorgreen 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You summed it up perfectly.

[–]josiasx 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You know, this gives me pause. One necessary thing for "equality," is for men to be valued equally in the bed room. Women enjoy a forced equality in every area of our lives, but maintain romantic power, by being the object. By objectifying men, this can level out the playing field.

But then, you have a problem. Its not such an easy thing to maintain the body type, body posture, and status that women find attractive.

More men turn to steriods for body image issues, than women with eating disorders.

Body posture, the "superman pose," is a posture of dominance. Its something that as men, we compete among ourselves for the right to stand tall. While feminism feeds off female anxiety, vilifying "man spreading."

The qualities of an attractive man, are by definition, something that only few men can achieve. While women only need to be healthy. This just wont change.

It makes me contemplate, about making the strong, stand up men, to be play things.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

All true, but still not really a problem. Attractive body types for men are difficult to achieve and maintain... so? Work harder then if you want to achieve and maintain it. Or, just stop caring about what other people find attractive and accept the reality that sometimes it's just not something many people can do. If that's the case, find something more important to care about than your body image (there are innumerable things) like learning a skill or building your career. Long story short, I sympathize with men AND women who have body issues, as I've had them myself, but I'm not about to complain that people who are more attractive than me exist and that I see them, or that women might prefer a bigger man over myself. If anything, it drives me to work out and be better, and that is a good thing for me. I see someone better than me, I go out an better myself. It's inspiring. Basically I don't think inequality of sexiness is a problem, because it's an inevitability. Double standard or not, reality does not care what anyone feels about it. If women like to look at hot men, who am I to deny them that? If I like to look at hot women, and women try to shame me for it, I ignore them because you can't tell me what I'm allowed or not allowed to find attractive. If people are insecure, then that's a challenge for them to overcome, not for anyone else to accommodate toward.

[–]josiasx 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I realize, I painted a dreary image. But that's not really my world view. You can see it between the lines. This isn't TRP after all.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points22 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The only reason I actually care is because I know women would freak out if the genders were reversed.

[–]trygold 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This shows a powerful woman dominating a sexualy disirable man. This show women in power. That is good. If the genders were reversed it would show a man in power dominating a woman. This of course would be sexest .

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Which is hilarious because every girl I meet is completely up front about how submissive they are in the bedroom. Trying finding a sexually dominant woman who isn't charging, I wish you luck.

[–]Luchadorgreen 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminists more than anything. Most women I know wouldn't care.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol,

half naked women = sexist and objectifying women.

Totally naked man. Totally ok.

I'm completely fine with this ad. It's the hypocrites that call themselves feminist that that cry foul for one but not the other that upsets me. If they truly had no power as they claim I wouldn't care. However, feminism is extremely strong politically and has done more to destroy equality between the sexist than balance it.

[–]furchfur 12 points13 points14 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Obviously there would be an outcry if the genders were reversed.

One could complain to the ASA:

https://www.asa.org.uk/about-asa-and-cap/the-work-we-do/what-we-cover.html

[–]DolphinsAreOk[S] 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/22/suit-supply-ad-sexist_n_5187375.html

Obviously when they did the reverse it was sexism, but this is empowering women.

[–]fengpi 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

It's sexism for women to show their bodies. Unless they're obese, deformed or geriatric. There's nothing objectifying about showing-off revolting bodies.

There is an inverse relationship between objectification and displaying boner-shrinking ugliness. Really, you should strictly look at women who make you hurl-up your lunch.

[–]JestyerAverageJoe 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Something something male gaze only women are objectified in advertisements something something.

[–]HeForeverBleeds 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's because women objectifying men is totally okay, but men doing it to women is rape culture

[–]Blarty97 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Looks like things have come full circle.

[–]hivemind_disruptor 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm okay with that.

[–]FreemanPontifex 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Cool suits

[–]DaeusPater 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There is nothing inherently wrong with sexual imagery focused on a particular group (gender or race). Of course, if the genders were reversed, feminist cunts would be hysterically freaking out and crying out patriarchy. I have to accept that those suits look very classy (as was that guy's butt).

I don't think objectification of any kind is dehumanizing. Whenever I see women(IRL) complaining about objectification, it seems to be due to an inferiority complex about their appearance. Women, by being a protected class in society, feel entitled to default respect and expect to be considered beautiful. But sexual advertisements add an element of 'competition' in their lives and they don't like it.

[–]TigPlaze 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's only objectification when men do it.

[–]redmagistrate50 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lazy ad, interesting suits, the ass on that man!

Honestly don't care if they want to do this shit to sell suits, it's how luxury goods have been sold for decades. Sure it would be sexist to reverse the genders, but I don't care about that either.

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