Mom strips 11 years old boy naked in front of classmates as punishment

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After she paraded him around naked in front of the class. Why didn't they stop her from stripping him?

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[+]nedsbeds points 9 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

You're right, we don't know where he was shown to the class, but this is the quote:

"Pierce alleges Cole drove off with her son after parading him nude in front of all of his classmates. Before reaching their home, Cole pulled the car over."

I think it's safe to say that she made sure that they all saw him very exposed.

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I happen to think the constant dismissal of boys/men's privacy and modesty is a huge issue. This would never happen to a girl.

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[+]nedsbeds points 9 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

Women's privacy/modesty is almost always valued more than men's. there are many medical blogs about it.

Not to mention double standards like female prison guards can supervise nude male inmates but male guards cannot supervise nude female inmates.

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I don't think anyone here supports human trafficking. If there's some literature or something you'd like for me to read about it then I certainly will. We were simply discussing something else.

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I'm not trying to imply that the victim has no importance.
But a victim is a victim. A male victim is just as deserving of sympathy and justice as a female victim- so in that way, they are the same.

That being said, a female perpetrator is just as deserving of punishment as a male perpetrator-- but that is NOT what happens- and THAT is when it is an MRA issue-- because we're not saying that a male victim who is victimized by either gender is just as important as a female victim who is victimized by either gender-- we're saying that a female perpetrator should be punished and jailed for victimizing anyone of either gender, in the same way that a male perpetrator should be punished and jailed for victimizing anyone of either gender.

And that latter issue is not the one that is being pointed at here, not by the article, at any rate.

Edit
It appears I might have missed in the article where the woman was given a light punishment for her actions.
In that light, then at that point, this would be an MRA issue.

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We'll have to agree to disagree.

My point was that a child being violated, in and of itself, by a woman DOES NOT make this a MRA issue-- because a child being violated, in and of itself by a man, does not make it an MRA issue. It is not the fact that the victim is a boy and the perpetrator a female that makes this an MRA issue.

What DOES (or would) make this am MRA issue is either:
A) The double standard of punishment for the commission of a crime between a male perpetrator and a female perpetrator; and/or
B) The double standard of how the victim is perceived and the crime against them is interpreted (i.e, male victim of rape is only "roughed up and assaulted" while under the exact same circumstances a female victim of rape is "violated and humiliated") by the law and society.

In getting a fuller picture of what took place, I am tending to agree now that the issue is one for MRA.

But I do stand by my initial assessment, in that in a situation where the only known facts are that a boy was violated by a woman-- where we do not know what the general public is, where we do not know if the perpetrator was punished-- then it is not at that point and that time a MRA issue.

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These things happen to boys and cot girls though because of this ingrained idea that boys don't deserve privacy.

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Well I'd actually disagree there too. There would be a much larger outcry. Like this would be at the top of r/news if a dad stripped his daughter naked, paraded her around in front of her class, drove home with her still naked, kicked her out of the car and made her walk through the apartment complex naked. There's no way he'd be released on such light charges. It would be a Brock Turner sized story.

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[+]nedsbeds points 9 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

She stripped you naked in front of your class?

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[+]nedsbeds points 9 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

And just stand there in front of them or would she spank you like that? That's awful? Did she do this to just you or all of the kids?

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He's one of those people who thinks correlation 100% equals causation.

It could be they had them young, but also were abused by their parents, so didn't develop as fast as a person needs to in order to not abuse their child later on.

It could be that if they'ed waited 6 years, they'd mature into non-child abusing, despite their past.

It could be along a different line, that X amount of people are abused and will abuse their children, but that older women are less likely to have children and thus abuse them because they're such low value due to their age and likely also due to lack of caring for themselves that a man will not hook up with one and get them pregnant, because its a clear lose-lose situation for her, especially when he knows she's an abusive cunt.

This is especially true when a 21 year old man doesn't know his girlfriend of 21 has the capacity for being abusive to a child, but if he's 10 years older, he knows she'll do that to his child and doesn't want to have kids with her, and breaks up with her instead.

The failing of u/Freyzi is considering the problem solely from the female angle, the gynocentric angle. Older men may not impregnate abusive women because they know better by then, and thus you have a lower rate among older women of abusing their own child simply because they don't have one.

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Title	Mom strips 11 years old boy naked in front of classmates as punishment
Author	nedsbeds
Upvotes	388
Comments	78
Date	February 20, 2017 3:18 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/5v51xs/mom_strips_11_years_old_boy_naked_in_front_of/
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