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‘Boys Are Stupid; Girls Are Awesome’ – Most TV Shows & Movies Today

rbrockway

October 26, 2016
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Title ‘Boys Are Stupid; Girls Are Awesome’ – Most TV Shows & Movies Today
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rbrockway

Upvotes 183
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Date October 26, 2016 2:10 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
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[–][deleted] 53 points54 points55 points 9 years ago (25 children) | Copy Link

Eugh, I'm young, but I have had my fair share of movies.

Hell, the oldest flicks I have seen date back to 1954! (THEM!)

Back in the 80's is where you had all the 'macho man' super-dudes, rambo, etc.

But we also had the Alien series, with Sigourney Weaver, a BRILLIANT actor, and she portrayed a female character in a remarkably reasonable fashion.

She didn't just punch the alien to bits, like Rambo punches commie scum, she had to out smart it (Hell, the 'big black guy' of the movie was overpowered by the alien!).

Then in the 90's you start getting quite a few more big female actors going about, but frankly they're all pretty good too, some stinkers here and there, but that's in any time period.

But 2000+...Oh god...

With the revelation that companies can make billions by turning shitty novels into movies, we got stuff like Divergent, and Hunger games, in which full grown men (in many cases, ARMOURED and armed grown men, trained for combat), are beaten by a 5'5 girl...

Its one thing to see a 6ft muscled fridge-man beat a bunch of people to death, but at least its KINDA plausible.

I entirely lost interest in Star Wars 7 (The quest for more money), when I realised that the main character was literally good at everything she did, despite having no knowledge on these areas.

Flying ships? She's an ace!

Shooting guns? She's a marksman!

Melee? Apparently capable of being trained 'space wizards' (Sith) without a single showing of previous swordplay.

What's the point of these movies? "Girls can do anything better than men!"?

I'm honestly lost for words on how shit some of these flicks are getting.

For fucks sake, lets look at Rambo, he gets hurt a DOZEN times throughout the movie, and even has to stitch himself up.

Rey? From Starwars 7? Thrown around like a ragdoll, with such force as to go 'she's fucking dead...', and she plops back up with a little fake blood on her head, whoop de doo...

In summary, female characters can be fucking awesome, Vasquez proved this in Aliens.

But modern female characters are 80's B movie heroes, in a 5'5 petite package.

[–]enjoycarrots 32 points33 points34 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I entirely lost interest in Star Wars 7 (The quest for more money), when I realised that the main character was literally good at everything she did, despite having no knowledge on these areas.

She was rightly called a Mary Sue. I still enjoyed the movie, but the writing was extremely "safe" to the point of being lazy. It was not a great work of art. Just some mindless enjoyment.

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points23 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

IMO, it's not a bad movie...But its a bad STARWARS movie.

Its just a rehash of Episode 4, but without all the old film technique charm.

Mary "Rey" Sue was one of the worst modern characters I have ever seen.

She practically goes from 'Female Luke Skywalker' to 'Episode 6 Luke Skywalker, with a vagina', within 3/4 of the film...

[–]AtemAndrew 16 points17 points18 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Goes from 'no clue what the force is' to 'able to overpower a user of the force trained by both the light and dark sides the instant she miraculously figures out how to use it due to earlier being mind raped'.

[–]not_AtWorkRightNow 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I mean her arc is more like Spider-man or something where she instantly goes from kid to superhero. I still liked the movie a alright, but yeah her development just didn't fit the theme of the series, or even the movie really. It's like they dropped a comic book superhero into a Star Wars movie, just by accident.

[–]omegaphallic 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, but the guy was a pathetic putz and a journey man at best.

[–]manfred_mannlicher 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Second in command to Snokes and with direct access to him. Pretty good for a Journeyman.

I think by this point in the film, he's already hunted down and killed all of Luke's old apprentices, so he's no slouch. Of course, he can stop blaster bolts mid flight, so that should have been our first clue.

[–]omegaphallic 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah okay, I admit until he took the helmet off he seemed bad ass. Fine fuck she's a mary sue. I still like Finn.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I really, really, really, really hope they drag her through hell in the next few films. Like, give her the Korra treatment. Then I can respect her as a character.

[–]Abiogeneralization 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I hope the fan theories are right and she turns out to be the Emperor's granddaughter. That would help explain how powerful she already is.

[–]manfred_mannlicher 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If by "safe" you mean nonsensical or even comical.

I tried to watch it again last night on Netflix, for the first time since I saw it in the theaters. I made it as far as the "don't hold my hand" girl power scene before I started losing interest and surfed on my tablet while watching it. By the point where she pooh-poohs the Millennium Falcon as a piece of junk in one scene, then recounts all the times its been stolen and by whom back to Han in the next, I shut it off. Maybe I can handle a Mary Sue OR a couple of non sequiturs OR a blatant Deus Ex Machina, but all three in one scene? It's a bit much to take.

Holy hell was that a bad movie. I thought Mad Max was ridiculously bad, but Force Awakens is without a doubt the worst movie I've watched in years.

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In my opinion, Furiosa was a good character, but I really wish she took part in an original film, instead of mad max.

When you name the film mad max, the audience expects Max, not a newcomer, to take the spotlight.

[–]omegaphallic -5 points-4 points-3 points 9 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

She not actually that good at stuff, she bangs up the millenial falcon by smashing into stuff when she first starts flying, when she sword fights she looks more like a conan the barbarian gone wring then a Jedi Knight, and as far the rest of her skill its either directly related to her job in salavaging parts from space ships or she reverved sucked it from the bad guys brain, because he's a putz who unworthy of wiping Darth Vadars ass.

The real star of the movie is Finn, the former storm trooper, who would make a good MRA.

[–]manfred_mannlicher 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago* (11 children) | Copy Link

Not actually good at stuff? Come on, man.

She speaks multiple languages fluently, including two languages (binary droid and Shyriiwook) that you need direct access to droids or wookies to learn. She outfights 4 grown men in the marketplace on Jakku. She steps into a NINETY YEAR OLD FREIGHTER, that she's never been in before, and not only tells Finn where go for the gunnery station, she gets it off the ground and into combat maneuvers in one scene. She out maneuvers smaller, faster, more maneuverable fighters piloted by troopers trained from birth for combat and flies them through the superstructure of a star destroyer the first time she pilots this ancient thing.

Then, when she gets off world, meets Han, and figures out she's been piloting the Millennium Falcon, she goes full fan-girl and can recount the last four people who stole it, in order. Yeah, you know all that but you can't name the ship by sight and call it a piece of junk only the scene before? Jeeeeeeeeeeesus. Then she starts finishing his sentences for him, just so we all know she knows the Falcon at least as well as a guy who owned it for forty years.

Then there's having "force dreams" from the bloody lightsaber that no one has ever demonstrated before, going from finding out she can use the force to mind control without any training, and dueling the second in command in the First Order to a draw (if you can call nearly killing him except for a clear Deus Ex Machina a draw) the first time she picks up a lightsabre.

Yadda, yadda, yadda ... she's a master linguist, master combatant, master mechanic, master pilot, preternaturally precocious force user, she's gorgeous, she doesn't take shit from anyone and ... she does all that despite living alone in the hulk of a scrapped AT-AT and scavenging alone for parts every day on the edge of society, with only a few little junk trinkets as possessions. She should be barely literate and barely socially functional.

[–]omegaphallic 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Okay good counter point, you win...this time!

I still like Finn. And the whole Jedi pychic brain drain scene was hot, it was like they were having hate sex with their minds. Or maybe that's just my twisted interruptation of what happened.

[–]manfred_mannlicher 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I like Finn, too, but what a wasted character.

Can you imagine what he'd be like if they truly explored the concept of a totally genetically and socially programmed soldier that "breaks" and the programming doesn't take? The minute they went the "sanitation worker" route, I rolled my eyes.

Yeah, the New Order is going to spend 20 years and hundreds of thousands of credits indoctrinating this guy to be a soldier and then assign him to sanitation. Jeeeeeeeesus.

[–]omegaphallic 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hahaha, good point. Best apart of the movie was when he was talking about tossing the abusive female officer who'd commanded him into the garbage shute. Love that scene.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

What the fuck? 0_o

Mind sex?

He was just trying to take info from her.

[–]omegaphallic 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

And she took info from him in return, two minds, grabbing and clunching at each other, penatrating deeper into each others minds, so they can pull more of the others secrets into themselves. So yeah it made me think of pyschic hate sex.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

0_o

I think you need a cold shower or something mate! Heheh.

[–]omegaphallic 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Doesn't help, only reading crackpot feminist theories cools me off ;p

[–]fengpi 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Her only flaw is that she is pained at being separated from her family. As flaws go, that is a rather sympathy-inducing one.

[–]Orbiter42 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You've seen the feminist meme, "Why didn't princess lea rescue herself?"

yea, to me, this was George Lucas giving star wars fans the big middle finger. he didn't even write new material, he just took parts of other movies and rewrote then with girl power

Princess Lea escapes a desert planet, flying the Millennium Falcon, is presented with her jedi legacy, rescues herself from Darth Vader, witnesses her new mentor, Obe Wan Kenobi being killed, and beats up Darth Vader. While her buddy's Wedge, and Lando take out the Death Star. Then flies off into the sunset with her faithful companion Chewbacca

change the names, and you have episode 7

[–]manfred_mannlicher 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It wasn't George Lucas, though. He sold the Star Wars IP to Disney a few years back and they brought in JJ Abrams to freshen up the franchise.

Lucas referred to the sale as having sold his "kids … to the white slavers that take these things”. so he wasn't happy at all. I guess he shouldn't have sold it, then.

I agree, though. It was lazy writing that essentially copied Episode IV with an insertion of girl power.

[–]PowerWisdomCourage 23 points24 points25 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's why Rey is such a boring character. She doesn't earn anything and breaks the established rules of the universe to make it possible.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points20 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Age of Ultron: black widow is captured by Ultron, feminists freak out.

Xmen apocolypse: Mystique is grabbed by the throat, feminists freak out.

But women must be the hero's and the stars, otherwise Hollywood is sexist.

The envitable end result are films with female leads that lack any dramatic tension whatsoever. I'm already dreading star wars episode 8 cause the entire movie I'm just going to be thinking "wow what a dreadful situation they are in, how will rey magic them out of this one?"

I really don't mind female leads, alien is one of my favorite movie series ever. Underworld is awesome. Black widow is a great addition to the avengers. I have high hopes for both wonder woman and Captain marvel.

The thing is even captain America takes his licks. Hollywood has no problem seeing a male lead at the disadvantage to his nemesis. We root for the underdog, that's what makes these movies fun. It's no fun to watch a sci-fi fantasy movie where the underdog is the villian, like the whiny little bitch kylo ren.

/rant

[–]omegaphallic 10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Xmen apocolypse: Mystique is grabbed by the throat, feminists freak out."

She should have just given Apocolyse a feminist leacture on his toxuc masculanity instead of fighting him and by the end he'd be begging for death.

[–]rbrockway[S] 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Blake's 7 had a female Villain in the late 70s. Servalan was a fantasic villain - diabolical yet stylish. Several of the other female characters were strong and capable. They didn't feel the need to put down men. Even Vila, who could be a buffoon, was skilled at his trade.

[–]splodgenessabounds 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Blake's 7 had a female Villain in the late 70s. Servalan was a fantasic villain - diabolical yet stylish

Well remembered that man. Servalan was indeed both nasty and tasty at the same time, buggered if I can remember the actress' name though (goggles... Jacqueline Pearce). But my favourite Bitch of all time has to be Siân Phillips as Livia in I, Claudius, a role she played with supreme aplomb and for which she got a BAFTA. If you've never seen the BBC series from the 70s, you must - it's a treat and is one of those rare things, a series that deserves the description "classic".

[–]LeadingPretender 14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

One of the worst examples of this was The Intern.

Every man in that was either a piece of shit with an ego and insecurity issues, or a dumb lazy millennial manboy who could barely function in the workplace and just liked video games. Except for De Niro's character who was an old school company man gentleman.

The female director's agenda was SO CLEAR and blatant it was almost nauseating.

I mean, yeah it was a feel good movie, but fuck the way they portrayed men in it.

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[–]LeadingPretender 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep exactly, pretty sure they even said he did it because of his emasculated male ego.

Pretty ridiculous film.

[–]ThatGuyTH 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

annndddd yet she goes back to her cheating ex...

that movie made no sense!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I liked that movie.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How to make a great female character:

  1. Make her a human being.

[–]romansixx 10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Most fucked up part is if you say anything, you're a sexist pig. have to tiptoe around if you're a 32 white guy these days. I'm the farthest thing from a racist or sexist but i'm starting to slowly feel like i am for some reason.

[–]Lethn 13 points14 points15 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's called propaganda, you're being affected by it.

[–]NickStuart118 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You've #triggered me for saying this

[–]romansixx 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

lol #suckitup

[–]Sherlock_Homey 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

TRIGGERED

[–]kutuup1989 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

have to tiptoe around if you're a 32 white guy these days

Only if you let yourself be made to tiptoe around.

Seriously, with anything in life aside from a few exceptions, always just say what you think. Always be ready to qualify why you think what you think, though, and there's not a lot anyone can do to "shut you down".

Don't like some food? Say so. Don't like a movie? Say so. Like a TV show? Say so. Have a preferred political party? Say so.

Sure, there are always going to be people who think their opinions override yours and want to shove them in your face and make you feel like shit for thinking what you do, but ultimately, what are they going to do if you don't concede to their bullshit? Yell? Scream? Stamp their feet? Start a Tumblr blog? They can go ahead and make themselves look like a petulant child if they want, but what can they really do? Nothing. That's why they're shrieking and yelling and pointing fingers at you looking for white knights. They know there's sod all they can do about your "problematic" opinion, and that's why they're so pissed off.

[–]romansixx 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm right there with you. My least favorite term is "I feel like."
i have no issues saying anything thats on my mind, but it still wears on you.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sure, there are always going to be people who think their opinions override yours and want to shove them in your face and make you feel like shit for thinking what you do, but ultimately, what are they going to do if you don't concede to their bullshit? Yell? Scream? Stamp their feet? Start a Tumblr blog?

Well, for starters, they can campaign to get him fired from his job.

Spread nasty, vicious rumors about him and the only evidence he'll have is his word alone.

Drum up something he said in the past and post it as an example of "Racism", "Sexism", "Homophobia" along with his picture.

2500 Petitioners was enough to convince a movie theater in Australia to drop a screening of The Red Pill.

You greatly underestimate how much power these people are equipped with through Social Media and "Women Are Wonderful".

Just ask Tim Hunt, the two programmers who lost their jobs over a Dongle Joke shared in private, and the scientist forced to apologize for wearing a "Sexist" shirt.

[–]cymrich 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I had been eagerly awaiting the release of the new World of Final Fantasy game that came out this week, and once my preorder unlocked at 8pm my time (midnight eastern) I eagerly started to play it... it involves twins, one male, one female... guess which one acts like a complete buffoon...

[–]Zuke88 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

FF still caters mainly to Japan, so whatever he's doing is not because of feminist pandering

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Have you seen that Kingsglaive movie? The trailer looked bad ass and I've thought about watching it but I know next to nothing about final fantasy. Do I need to have played the games and seen the other movies or does it stand alone well enough?

[–]cymrich 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

yes, I've seen it. it's completely standalone.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Awesome I'll give it a watch. Thanks.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This drives me nuts. Even on the Science channel there is a show where the female scientist is all knowing and can't seem to do wrong and the guy is a complete nitwit and constantly screws shit up. When kids watch this show what kind of message does that give them?

[–]xNOM 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That women are childish infants whose feelings must be protected at all costs.

[–]omegaphallic 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm going to play devils advocate, at least in comedies, himbos/bimbos get most of the funniest lines.

Who was the the star of home improvement, Tum Allen or the woman who played his wife? Which of them got the laughs?

Now lets look at TVs funniest bimbo, Candy from Two and Half Men.

She was the funniest, best character the show ever had, had the funniest lines, should have been made a permantant full time character.

And if your an actress or actor in a comedy who wants the funniest lines and ironically you have to be really smart if you want to deliver a himbo/bimbo that's funny and likable and entertaining.

I will say one actor who inverted dumb man/ hot smart wife thing was Actor and comedian Damon Waynes.

[–]escobari 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

One of the main reasons why I just can't bare watch tv or movies anymore. Even in historic settings women and men behave as they are living today, just too ridiculous.

[–]Orbiter42 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You've seen the feminist meme, "Why didn't princess lea rescue herself?"

yea, to me, this was George Lucas giving star wars fans the big middle finger. he didn't even write new material, he just took parts of other movies and rewrote then with girl power

Princess Lea escapes a desert planet, flying the Millennium Falcon, is presented with her jedi legacy, rescues herself from Darth Vader, witnesses her new mentor, Obe Wan Kenobi being killed, and beats up Darth Vader. While her buddy's Wedge, and Lando take out the Death Star. Then flies off into the sunset with her faithful companion Chewbacca

change the names, and you have episode 7

[–]equiposeur 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's disturbing how clearly the SJWs rule the roost. No studio or producer will greenlight a production that isn't preemptively design to appease them.

It's like communist Russia: artists have to toe the party line. Yes, good work is possible, but its a lot harder.

[–]splodgenessabounds 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I can't remember the last time I went to the flicks, but it wasn't last week or even last year. I hardly watch the telly any more (FTA TV in Straya is 20+ channels of crap - 10 copies of 5 channels + 10 shopping), and what with youtube and so on I don't miss it at all. When I do turn it on it's usually cos the internet gremlins are playing up, and I channel surf for a few minutes, give up and play a DVD. In the few minutes I do watch, it's invariably some American shitcom or some American "drama" series or yet another repeat of an Strayan thing I disliked the first time round. All of them seem to feature two things: a "plot" you can read from miles away (or no discernible plot at all); and female lead "characters" who are all clones of each other (and male ones, come to that).

Or maybe those were the commercials. I can't tell the difference any more.

[–]EduBA 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

British The Bletchley Circle and The Fall are examples of this way of making TV shows.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Mostly capable male heroes in tv series and movies because that's what people want to see. Only a few heroines in a leading role have made big bucks.

[–]webleytempest 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The Imperative Awakens

[–]DillipFayKick 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

For at least the last 30 years.

[–]equiposeur 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How about the recent season of Game of Thrones? HBO sure got the SJW memo.

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