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Woman charged with injuring her child and framing child's father so he would lose custody rights [x-post r/morbidreality]

Red__Alt

June 27, 2016
961 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://fox43.com/2016/06/16/woman-charged-with-injuring-her-child-in-lower-swatara-township/
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Title Woman charged with injuring her child and framing child's father so he would lose custody rights [x-post r/morbidreality]
Author

Red__Alt

Upvotes 961
Comments 42
Date June 27, 2016 3:17 AM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/4q19w7/woman_charged_with_injuring_her_child_and_framing/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/woman-charged-with-injuring-her-child-and-framing.946587
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[–]Tmomp 92 points93 points94 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes, the mother is horrible, but a legal system that motivates such behavior is the far greater problem, and one we should work to fix.

[–]TedTheAtheist 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yup, because if she wasn't caught, she would have been believed, and the man would be screwed without any evidence to support.

[–]unbelievablepeople 25 points26 points27 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

This article is light on details. Here's a better article on the same case: http://www.pressandjournal.com/newsx/cops-a-courts/6348-infant-girl-abused-to-frame-father

The father was very smart -- he took pictures of his baby daughter at the end of each visit, to document that she was uninjured right before handing her back over to the mother. Then the mother would take the baby to the emergency room with scratches and burns, claiming it must have been the father. Because the father had pictures, he was able to convince the police that it was the mother who was doing it.

Guys, take heed from stories like this. First, don't bring children into the world with the kind of woman who would do a thing like this. Second, if by some mistake you do, you need to document everything and be ready to fight to protect your child.

[–]spblue 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Wow, that web site bans Canadians from reading it.

[–]umar4812 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

GB too.

[+][deleted] 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]SomeArse12 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Now you're thinking with Lawyers.

[–]SomeArse12 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree but at the same time I wish the solution would be to end bias in the courts to begin with, instead of having to play these games and be as cautious as possible in a world where you are assumed guilty and must prove your innocence.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks. The first article was cancer, just repeated itself

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What is wrong with people?

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They live in a world where that might have worked.

[–]herewegoaga1n 61 points62 points63 points 10 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

You see that fucking face? That's the face of someone who doesn't give a shit. In her twisted mind what she did was right. She just got caught...this time.

Zero remorse, and nothing behind those eyes.

[+][deleted] 10 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

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[–]chasemyers 17 points18 points19 points 10 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Probably judging her based on both the article and her face. That better for you? Based on the title alone, I'd say she's a crazy bitch. You ok with that?

[+]Ceteris__Paribus -14 points-13 points-12 points 10 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, because she was only charged; not convicted.

[–]DillipFayKick 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

So therefore she's completely innocent /s

[–]Flaghammer 19 points20 points21 points 10 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

She actually is innocent until proven guilty. Just like male rapists that we on this sub believe shouldn't be paraded around on media until convicted.

[–]DillipFayKick 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In my belief, she will be found guilty. But yes you are correct about her innocence. But the whole original comment was someone saying that they have a feeling about someone based on their photo. So you know there isn't really a need to explain that she's innocent until proven guilty. I think we all know that. It's only a personal judgement and the commenter was clear about that.

[–]bufedad 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

She actually is innocent until proven guilty. Just like male rapists that we on this sub believe shouldn't be paraded around on media until convicted.

I've said this a hundred times, and I'll say it a hundred more.

If someone murders someone, they are not innocent until they are convicted by a court of law.

They are legally innocent, but they are still guilty.

If someone rapes someone, they are legally innocent until convicted, but that doesn't mean they aren't guilty of raping someone.

Legally determined innocence and guilt isn't the same as actual innocence or guilt.

Otherwise, the innocence project wouldn't exist.

Those who have not committed a crime do not cease to be innocent because they were falsely convicted.

[–]Flaghammer 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I'm aware that someone who is eventually found guilty was really guilty all along, I didn't spell that out because I assumed the reader would already be aware of that information. In fact it's very common knowledge. The point I was trying to make is that you, some random person on the internet, can't possibly have enough information to know whether or not she is guilty. This means you should wait for the courts to go over the information they have and make their decision. And yeah innocent people are convicted sometimes and sometimes guilty people go free, but this is in a pretty small percentage of cases and it's up to the people involved to file their own appeal.

[–]bufedad 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I'm aware that someone who is eventually found guilty was really guilty all along, I didn't spell that out because I assumed the reader would already be aware of that information.

That's odd, because the point you were trying to make was that we should pretend someone isn't guilty, until a court of law determines it, as if we cannot view the evidence and make decisions for ourselves, or as if the legal system is never wrong.

[–]Flaghammer 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

No, the point that I was trying to make is to not make any assumptions at all. Unless you're the prosecutor then you really have no idea what is going on, except that she's been charged.

[–]Ceteris__Paribus 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You can not and should not infer guilt from a headline and a picture, which is what my comment was addressing. Innocent until proven guilty.

[–]DillipFayKick 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree with that. You do though. We all do. We see something and we make a judgement in our minds. It's keeping your mind open to change after you've made the judgement that makes a person fair minded in my opinion. That being said, the colleges and Title IX are examples of what can happen if you do start letting emotion decide guilt or innocence.

[–]herewegoaga1n 16 points17 points18 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You must be dim. She hurt her fucking child for the dumbest reason imaginable... to hurt her ex.

[–]Searchlights 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I can't say I got all that out of her face, either.

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[–]unbelievablepeople 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The father took pictures of his daughter right before giving her back to her mother, showing her injury-free. Then the mother would take the daughter to the emergency room with scratches and burns that she claimed were inflicted by the father.

[–]Albacorewing 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

As I say, it is insane these days to marry women, live with them, make children with them, or mix up finances with them. Women in Western culture now {mostly} are dangerous.

[–]Login_rejected -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Can we just shoot her? Trying to frame the father is bad. But purposely injuring an infant is fucking despicable. She needs her breathing license revoked.

[–]ABC_Florida -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Mother love

[+]Iamwomper -99 points-98 points-97 points 10 years ago* (10 children) | Copy Link

So this is a men's right issue how?

Edit- too many dumb dumbs in this sub jumping on the woman hate train.

Most of you i dont think read the article, which had nothing to do with men's rights.
It's drivel and this sub is no better than the feminism sub you all love to tear apart.

[–]BDMR_lurker 19 points20 points21 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because this behaviour is mostly enabled by a sentencing gap

[–][deleted] 57 points58 points59 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because females tend to get unfair advantage towards getting custody compared to males. You must be new

[–]Anaxagoras23 29 points30 points31 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't be silly, of course this is a Men's Rights issue. The ability of women to use the courts as a weapon to gain leverage or power in family law is well documented, if not popularly recognized. False claims of child abuse and molestation as well as the high and easy accessibility of restraining orders and the railroading that happens after plea bargains that are often recommended by well meaning but lacking in insight attorneys are systemic problems.

Claiming this is not a Men's Rights issue because it's a story about one specific issue would be like claiming that a lynching in the 1916, probably inspired by The Birth of a Nation, wasn't a racial civil rights issue because the state didn't actually sanction the killing and the members of the mob genuinely believed that the victim was a rapist.

Yes, it's not actually a legal question in and of itself because what she did was clearly illegal, but falsifying abuse or molestation is not uncommon and is often used to target men, whether it be fathers or in professional or personal disputes. That makes it our issue.

[–]neverXmiss 22 points23 points24 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

This is shared as a warning for men to watch out for when it comes to custody rights.

[+]Iamwomper -47 points-46 points-45 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Grasping at straws there

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[–]Information_High 10 points11 points12 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Why not both?

[–]CountVonVague 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

always tag the trolls

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So this is a men's right issue how?

When men face consequences for their actions, it is the status quo.

When women face consequences for their actions, it is so rare as to be newsworthy.

[–]galtthedestroyer 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for this. I was just about to say the same thing. If she got a slap on the wrist and the article was about that, then it would be slightly better but still one single case. It doesn't matter how many single cases are listed on this sub. Trends can not be gleaned from them. Only the whole sum matters.

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