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This article takes a huge problem regarding male self-esteem, and makes it about women being victimized.

EightyTimes

March 3, 2016
22 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.theplaidzebra.com/the-friend-zone-has-deep-seated-roots-in-rape-culture/
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Title This article takes a huge problem regarding male self-esteem, and makes it about women being victimized.
Author

EightyTimes

Upvotes 22
Comments 12
Date March 3, 2016 8:34 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/48tvj0/this_article_takes_a_huge_problem_regarding_male/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/this-article-takes-a-huge-problem-regarding-male.954792
https://theredarchive.com/post/954792
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Comments

[–]Lethn 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What do you expect from something that was written by a narcissistic sociopath?

[–]blueoak9 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

"Rape culture is everywhere, from pop music that tells women “you know you want it” because of these “blurred lines” in romantic and physical relationships, to everyday jokes and dialogue."

Rape culture is women gay-shaming men who don't want them, or calling it misogynistic when a man doesn't fall all over himself trying to impress her and get her into bed. Rape culture is when minor boys are raped by women and the supposition is they really wanted it because "hot teacher" or even considered to be the sexual aggressor. That's a real rape culture.

Promiscuous women are called “sluts”, whereas their male counterparts are called “studs”, "

No, they are called creeps and lechers and a whole bunch of other slurs, but unlike women, they can't retreat into

"and this adds to the notion that female sexuality exists solely for male pleasure."

The dress and make-up budgets for most women prove the notion that women manipulate male pleasure and that for them it exists solely for their purposes.

"Because sexual entitlement is so normalized, men can easily fall into the trap of thinking that the “friend zone” is a legitimate way to criticize women’s choices. "

Women's sexual entitlement is so normalized that we don't even think about it other than to assume it's always some kind of flattering attention that any real man would be grateful for. women think it's cute to grab random men's crotches in bars and these guys are brutish, woman-hating pigs if they fight back. People report this kind of thing on this sub regularly.

I left this in comments to that article.

[–]Shironekosama404 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I always find it funny when you read an article about the "friend zone" it always about the guy just wanting sex. As if sex is the only thing on a guys mind. What if he actually wanted a relationship, and all the nice things he did were just his awkward advances to show how good of a partner he would be. No, he just wants to get his dick wet.

[+]Tycel 10 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm sorry article lost me completely when it said friendzone contribute to....rape culture. What????

[–]Kramsiwel -2 points-1 points0 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

because people who are in the friend zone, not a real place, think that if they treat women like well, people, that they are entitled to sex.

"why does she go out with eric!? I was there for her when she needed help moving or when her dad died" because she wants Erics cock, get over it

[–]SchalaZeal01 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

People who are friend-zoned are pining for a romantic relationship, not sex. Prostitution would be much healthier emotionally and psychologically, if it was all about sex.

And it's not about entitlement, as feeling the world 'rewards' the wrong qualities of character. Basically that being sociopathic is seen as more attractive than being Ned Flanders-level-of-altruism.

You get told since you're a kid to be a good person, to be moral, to be just, to be fair. And then the burglar who has no calm about slapping people around gets to be the king of the hill. Sounds like a shitty world.

The person, often a guy, is trying to show his moralness, his fairness, and his liking the girl, by being more friendly with her than with others. And while it's not outright said "wanna date me", it's so obvious to everyone around, you'd have to be blind not to see it. But she keeps him as a pet, cause he's useful between hook-ups, dependable unlike the boyfriends.

Edit: Also note, that befriending someone in the hope of 'something more eventually' is considered a valid strategy for dating...when by a woman. It's not considered entitlement anymore, to wait for the other to do the first move, to be considered 'good enough' as is.

[–]Kramsiwel -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Who hurt you ?

[–]Kramsiwel 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

there is no friend zone. Not even in /r/mensrights

[–]rottingchrist 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Friendship is wasted on those who consider it rape.

[–]RockFourFour 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh neat. A menslib contributor wrote a column!

[–]equiposeur 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Please link to archives. Do not give these people additional clicks.

archive.is is a good service for this.

[–]EightyTimes[S] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Alright, I will for future submissions. Thanks

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