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Swedish organization ROKS against Stockholm clinic giving care to raped men. "is a way of silencing woman." "opening it to men is insensitive and a backwards step.”

Musgabeen

December 20, 2015
163 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.politico.eu/article/sweden-plays-politics-with-rape-clinic-men-assaulted/
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Title Swedish organization ROKS against Stockholm clinic giving care to raped men. "is a way of silencing woman." "opening it to men is insensitive and a backwards step.”
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Musgabeen

Upvotes 163
Comments 38
Date December 20, 2015 11:47 AM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3xkj9o/swedish_organization_roks_against_stockholm/
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https://theredarchive.com/post/964813
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Comments

[–]AloysiusC 28 points29 points30 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Backwards step to what? The long history of male rape victims being cared about too much?

[–]not_like_me 20 points21 points22 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

silencing women

She says in an interview for the international media.

[–]Detox1337 -1 points0 points1 point 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Some people of either sex should shut up because they are stupid and the shit that comes out of their mouths would embarrass them if they could even understand what's happening.

[–]ZimbaZumba 17 points18 points19 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This was using the narrative of rape for political gain in a country where the perception of equality is frequently more important than reality.

Great use of language.

[–]RedPresident 15 points16 points17 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

We would have said that we believe they should have kept the clinic ‘women-only,’ and opened a new one for men if it were needed. Now, recently raped women will be sharing a space with men. This was an excellent facility but opening it to men is insensitive and a backwards step.”

Wow, so three sentences from these people, and every one a piece of crap.

  • "if"

  • Never mind men qhove been raped that have to share that space with women...

  • Maybe its a step FORWARD for women, when they feel the vulnerability and shame that can follow a rape experience, to see that men also can be victims, and maybe that will help them move on as they realize rape isn't about gender.

[–]I_TRY_TO_BE_POSITIVE 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Maybe its a step FORWARD for women, when they feel the vulnerability and shame that can follow a rape experience, to see that men also can be victims, and maybe that will help them move on as they realize rape isn't about gender.

My thought exactly. This woman doesn't want healing, she wants the perpetual blame game.

[–]zen_affleck 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As long as they see us as the enemy it won't occur to them to treat us like people.

[–]ParaBDL 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Now, recently raped women will be sharing a space with men.

If that is what worries them about also treating men, couldn't you just fix that by having separate hours for men and women? That way they won't need to share a space together.

I also wonder what they do with women that have been victims of sexual assault by other women, because they will definitely feel unsafe in a woman-only space.

[–]RedPresident 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Shhh... no logic in the safe space... ;)

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't use the L word it'll get you in trouble!

[–]Musgabeen[S] 10 points11 points12 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Some quick context about ROKS Here

[–]icefire54 10 points11 points12 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Holy shit. They are complete scum.

[–]Grumpchkin 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I can't believe that as a Swede I had no idea that these people say shit like this and they have never been called out for it or even acknowledged by any large media.

Swedens media really is an experiment in propaganda and bias, a successful one.

[–]OmegaParticle 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You live in one of the worst propaganda states of the 21st century. By 2030, Sweden will be a 3rd world country and all it's social and economic incompetence will be reckoned.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

  • man is described as a biological mishap

  • to call a man an animal is to flatter him

  • according to ROKS, this is a call-to-arms directed at all thinking women

  • calling men animals, machines, walking dildos

  • (singing now) Do you know feminism? Have you seen the light and felt its warmth?

[–]Musgabeen[S] 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

  • Interviewer- Calling men animals, machines, walking dildos...

  • ROKS leader- Yes?

  • Interviewer- Is that your opinion?

  • ROKS leader- Yes, it is!

  • Interviewer- Men are animals?

  • ROKS leader- Men are animals.

  • ROKS leader- Don't you agree?

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminism helps men.

[–]Lurker_IV 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Sweden is basically a feminist caricature of a country at this point.

[–]Grumpchkin 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Trust me, we aren't all like this.

It's just that the media is a fully grown propaganda machine by this point so shit like this is the only thing that foreigners see.

[–]Lurker_IV 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No problem, the USA is a caricature of lots of ridiculous things as well these days.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean just look at Hilary Clinton.

[–]franklindeer 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Okay, but isn't your parliament also pretty infected with regressive leftist nonsense as well?

[–]Grumpchkin 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Pretty much, but there is still hope.

Our "Racist" party has grown to the third largest party. It's basically the only party that isn't leftist as fuck, even our "right" partys are pretty much left.

[–]franklindeer 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I fear the same path is being followed in Canada at the moment. The government and media are constantly creating straw men in regards to sexism, racism and xenophobia in order to grand stand and silence sensible criticism of policy (not that sexism, racism and xenophobia don't exist). This ultimately results in any criticism being labelled some kind of "ism" and it's needlessly divisive. I don't think polarized politics are really good for progress but that's the way we're heading and it seems that the U.K, Germany and Sweden have already arrived there. The only possible outcomes are an authoritarian left or a political landscape made up of extremes.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 10 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

And, of course, they run the stock two myths:

a) If we put men and women side by side, the women will be terrified! Uh, only if you consciously cater to and promote the notion that they should generalize their fear of their intimate partner to all men in general. Keeping people segregated contributes to that perception, rather than defeating it.

b) Men are only 5% of the victims, so paying attention to them detracts from the overwhelming female victimhood! Yeah, only if you decide arbitrarily that with men you're going to stick to reported statistics. We've known for decades that there's more victims out there than those who walk into police stations to report, and when we go to the public directly, that under reporting issue isn't small. It's already a big problem for women, but it's even a larger problem for men. The real ratio isn't 1 in 20, it's more like 1 in 4 or even 1 in 3. Retreating to the police statistics in order to consciously minimize male victimhood by pretending they never see under reporting is dishonest as hell.

[–]OmegaParticle 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

SJW logic is filled with double think. Men are only 5% of the victims, and such a small percentage is insignificant. Transgender people are 0.3% of the population, yet the same logic doesn't apply.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I wish these people would shut the hell up and mind their own business. If anyone's wondering why it's difficult to run places for male victims, here's your answer.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Even when a place FOR MALE VICTIMS is created on it's own they swoop in and take it. "Oh hey the white house is going to help out minority boys! Finally!" NOPE It all goes to minority girls who are not nearly as affected.

[–]Dnile1000BC 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So much for them oft touted lie that feminist cares about men too.

[–]OmegaParticle 6 points7 points8 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sweden, the Saudi Arabia of feminism.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

if a woman is raped by her partner every night for a week

Is that what they are calling marital relations these days?

[–]Musgabeen[S] 12 points13 points14 points 10 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

Wouldn't be a big surprise if ROKS thinks that all heterosexual sex is rape.

One of their leaders once said in a documentary that "all men are animals" explicitly supporting Valerie Solanas claims.

Edit: Phrasing

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That would mean that all heterosexual sex is rape then: only one party can consent.

[–]levelate 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

hang on, i have been told that feminists consider solanas work 'scum' to be the height of satire, and was NEVER meant to be taken seriously........something is off here.

[–]TheDude41 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

d

[–]franklindeer 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She didn't say it ironically or sarcastically or as a metaphor or anything either. She said it as a statement of fact.

[–]ThePigmanAgain 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sweden.

[–]TheDude41 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

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