'A Voice for Men' Ad In A Toronto Subway Station Wants To Know How Feminism is Working for Us. Here are 8 Honest Answers. (Bustle)

SporkTornado · 2015-09-22T00:25:07+00:00

Feminism Has Fought For Equal Healthcare

Women have always had better healthcare than men. Even today when you look at obamacare. http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-birth-control/ Obamacare is required to pay for almost every type of female birth control that exists. With the one exception being abortion. On the other hand. It's not required to pay for any form of male birth control at all. Not even vasectomies. Nothing. To qoute Directly from the obamacare website

What Birth Control Is Covered?

According to HealthCare.Gov Food and Drug Administration-approved contraceptive methods prescribed by a woman’s doctor are covered. This generally includes:

-Barrier methods (used during intercourse), like diaphragms and sponges

-Hormonal methods, like birth control pills and vaginal rings

-Implanted devices, like intrauterine devices (IUDs)

-Emergency contraception, like Plan B® and ella®

-Sterilization procedures

-Patient education and counseling

Plans aren’t required to cover:

-Drugs to induce abortions

-Services related to a man’s reproductive capacity, like vasectomies

-http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-birth-control/

rg57 · 2015-09-22T00:59:09+00:00

Thanks To Feminism, Women Can Vote

OK. That happened before almost all of us were born. What have you done for women lately, feminism?

Feminism Gives Women More Equal Relationships

Does it? Men still have to pay for dinner. Men still have to pay for the ring. Men still have to get on their knee. Men are still expected to do the construction work around the house. I'm not straight, but I don't see a lot of equality in straight relationships. When things get bad, depending on jurisdiction, things get very bad for men, even when they are the victim. Aside from bad, there's also sad. Marriages are less stable than ever before. Is anyone happy? Feminism created a culture celebrating divorce, where a marriage is merely a stepping stone to a "better" marriage. There are no good spouses, particularly husbands.

Feminism Gives Women More Independence

Again, this is something that happened before many of us were even born. What have you done lately, feminism?

Feminism Has Fought For Equal Healthcare

No it hasn't. Baby boys can still be cut. Men's reproductive health (condoms, vasectomy or other surgery) isn't required to be covered under the ACA (even though the government told the Supreme Court that it DID require it to be covered, and that these are among the best means of contraception for being either near 100% effective, or also protecting against STDs). There are barely any doctors at all who specialize in andrology. And men's mental health is a serious issue right now, totally underfunded, resulting in violence and suicide.

Feminism Improves Women's Self-Confidence

No it doesn't. It turns women into cowards demanding "safe space", who can't even handle a man saying (literally) "hi" on the street. And the creation of segregated categories in sport and arts awards, and the reduction of standards in police and firefighting send the message that women can only "succeed" on quota. What feminism does is encourage entitlement, not self-confidence.

Feminism Has Helped Women Break Into Male-Dominated Professions

As above, the creation of segregated categories, and the reduction of qualifications emphasize that women can only "break into" professions when the competition is artificially eliminated. It's an insult to women who actually do break into professions on their own merit, without feminism. Did Marie Curie need feminism? Did Ada Lovelace?

Feminism Advocates For Sexual Harassment And Assault Victims

No. Feminism advocates for the unconstitutional elimination of due process, and for the social media bullying of targeted men, without evidence. Feminism scares women with grossly inflated statistics of sexual assault, even when the women whose data was used to make those statistics reject the idea they were assaulted. Feminism recasts entirely harmless, innocent, and indeed consensual behaviors as sexual assault, creating criminals and victims where there once were lovers. At the same time, it refuses to advise women on how to avoid unwanted attention, by pretending that sex crime is unlike any other kind of crime. And feminism has nothing to offer male victims of female assailants.

Feminism Challenges Gender Roles

My eyes cannot roll far enough. Feminism PROMOTES rigid gender roles. Feminism is a house of cards built on "patriarchy", which is a gender-essentialist concept that associates maleness, masculinity, testosterone, and Y chromosomes with "bad". Further, feminism has a strong anti-trans streak which rejects transwomen, and fails to protect transgirls.

pnw_diver · 2015-09-22T00:15:19+00:00

It is totally vacuous, lumping achievements from 100 years ago with the petty, vindictive gender culture war of today. The right to vote is not the same as the right to complain that the air conditioning is sexist, that the way a man is sitting is misogyny. Western women today are the most colossally indulged and doted upon humans in the history of the species. Western women today are the most colossally indulged humans in the history of the species, categorically.

The princesses of today need to quit expropriating the achievements from 100 years ago where conditions were QUITE different.

Funcuz · 2015-09-22T02:24:34+00:00

Feminism didn't give women the right to vote. That's a fallacy that will never die.

blueXcat · 2015-09-22T06:29:16+00:00

"Though the battle is very much ongoing, feminism has made birth control, abortions, and other reproductive healthcare more accessible. Feminists recognize that the ability to be safe and healthy should not be limited because of one's gender."

Yeah and men have nothing. They are even demonized when they ask to be sure it's their kids.

2015-09-22T13:13:57+00:00

If a modern feminist can take credit for stuff that happened a long time before she was born, can I take credit for digging both the Panama and Suez Canals?

Cuz that would be SWEET.

Black_caped_man · 2015-09-22T10:18:02+00:00

1 Thanks To Feminism, Women Can Vote

Nope, feminism may have been active when women got "the vote" but it's not because of feminism that it happened. Having "regular" people vote is actually a pretty new concept. Mostly voting was done by those who had a specific amount of land or fortune. This is because they actually invested in how society was run. You could almost say that votes were bought. Votes were also limited to households, which meant that the head of the household was usually the one to cast the vote. There was no legislation actually banning women from this though in practice is was very uncommon. It was because of the draft that individual men were eligible to vote because they should have a say in how the country they sacrificed their lives for was run. The suffragettes who are mostly credited with giving women the vote were actually working against the suffragists who wanted the vote for all people, rich and poor, black and white. So women would have had the vote anyway, it's just the natural progression of society.

2 Feminism Gives Women More Equal Relationships

Wrong! I don't see feminism advocating for shared parenting, I don't see feminism advocating for women to not land themselves financially dependent on their husbands. In fact there are no real assertions made with this point so I really have nothing to respond towards. The policies that feminism are advocating however all collectively makes sure that a woman has the ability to completely ruin a mans life if she wishes. How is that equal?

3 Feminism Gives Women More Independence

No, more personal independence is a result of our modernizing society. We have more time to spend on ourselves than ever before, and we have more ability to do so. This is thanks to the industrial revolution and not feminism.

4 Feminism Has Fought For Equal Healthcare

Feminism has fought for health-care to be even more centered on women. Feminism could give a rats ass about what healthcare does for men, aside from how it infringes on resources that could be placed on women.

5 Feminism Improves Women's Self-Confidence

HA! HAHAHAHA! Oh my god no! He for she, Ban Bossy, Rape Culture, Safe Spaces, Manspreading, etc. Basically everything feminism touches and says reinforces the notion that women are fragile, oppressed, and can't possibly take care of themselves. I'm pretty sure that women who actually have high self confidence are turning away from feminism.

6 Feminism Has Helped Women Break Into Male-Dominated Professions

Nope, that goes back to the industrial revolution and our modernizing society. As more children survive and we live longer due to better health care and as there was less work required to maintain a home women had more time to spend outside of it. As there was more time to spare education became more available to both women and men. Female doctors were never unheard of, and they became more common as more women had time and ability to study. Interestingly enough more women became veterinarians than doctors for some reason.

7 Feminism Advocates For Sexual Harassment And Assault Victims

Feminism advocates that women are victims of sexual harassment and assault. It does very little for the victims themselves actually.

8 Feminism Challenges Gender Roles

Feminism probably has the strictest gender roles of any modern ideology besides some religions (if you can call them modern). They are so focused on gender roles that they don't even realize how strongly they enforce them (probably). Even conservative republicans have less strict gender roles. (Edit: I think. I'm not really sure what conservative republicans are, but it sounded nice)

Title	'A Voice for Men' Ad In A Toronto Subway Station Wants To Know How Feminism is Working for Us. Here are 8 Honest Answers. (Bustle)
Author	eaton80
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Date	September 21, 2015 11:38 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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