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You Have a Right to Buy and Sell Sex. Will the Courts Protect It By Legalizing Prostitution?

blueoak9

July 23, 2015
30 upvotes
/r/MensRights
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Title You Have a Right to Buy and Sell Sex. Will the Courts Protect It By Legalizing Prostitution?
Author

blueoak9

Upvotes 30
Comments 20
Date July 23, 2015 3:17 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3ebxs3/you_have_a_right_to_buy_and_sell_sex_will_the/
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Comments

[–]JayBopara 12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Any liberal and free society should be allowed to buy and sell sex. That's why America calling itself the land of the free is one of the biggest jokes ever. Unfortunately everyone appears to be copying American religious and feminist values by trying to outlaw sex work.

I pray I'm wrong, but I don't see much chance of this getting through - because of religious nutters and mainly because of feminist nutters.

[–]eaton80 10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It was only last year in Canada where religious nuts and feminist nuts literally got together in an unholy alliance and passed bill C-51 which outlawed prostitution.

[–]MRA-automatron-2kb 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I can confirm what Eaton wrote. They made it illegal to advertise sex services and to communicate to have sexual services which goes against free speech for both genders. A feminist on TV said this C-51 law was needed to protect females from sexual slavery. Our law treats female sex workers like children and men as predators. I think sex spas are the best for both the customer and for the sex worker in terms of safety. At least it's an honest transaction between adults vs dating and marriage and less chance of a false accusation.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But the price of pussy would drop dramatically, and women everywhere lose their power bubble.

[–]thalos3D 10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Prostitution has a nice tie in with the yes means yes movement. What better evidence of consent than money changing hands?

[–]SlashSero 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They would come up with some argument that these women are forced to prostitute, and thus cannot consent. They will do anything to keep their one and only power, sexuality, over men to keep them on a leash.

[–]thalos3D 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You are, of course, correct. But I do love the idea of one college kid handing the other $1 and that making everything OK. Then if there is a claim of assault, the judge need only ask "Did you take the dollar?" Yes. "Case dismissed. Get this whore out of my courtroom!"

[–]_-_Dan_-_ 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I guess Groucho Marx was ahead of his time: "I remember the first time I had sex -- I kept the receipt."

But yup, works. Agree upon what is on the menu in advance and stick to it. And yup, deviations from that would be no different than sexual assault/rape in other cases, but it doesn't get more explicit consent than that. Unless you're into BDSM where it might be prudent to explicitly check in advance what is and isn't on the menu.

BTW, ages ago, wasn't there a college that tried to prevent the men from visiting the girls housing (sex segregated). They wouldn't outright say that they disliked men coming over, so they claimed the men would cause additional work/need for cleaning or something? And during a hearing the representative said that each man would add a cost of about 50c (different times) to clean up. Which lead to a headline: "COLLEGE NAME girls -- 50c a night"?

Or something similar?

Strange that it seems to have gone full circle, now with people from the liberal side seeing sex on campus as problem. And yup, you can always find reasons why it wasn't okay. How was it? The issue isn't the issue. It's an ideology thing of seeing women as something that must be protected from harm (and even from their own decisions).

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

My biggest issue with prostitution being illegal is that is creates a market for human trafficking, which is huge where I live. Legalize prostitution and you'll see those black markets dry up just like the black markets for marijuana.

[–]eaton80 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Do you live in the Balkans?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Houston. One of the largest ports in the US and we have a pretty bad human trafficking problem here.

[–]shadouwolf 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I hope this goes through. (right word?) Would this enable the government to regulate prostitution? My mind is little mushy atm.

[–]mochacola 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not for prostitution itself but it has to be legalized. Those kids running away from abusive homes being preyed by pimps need legal protection.

[+]Senray -6 points-5 points-4 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I disagree with this, and here's why: In the US, many people believe that if you need money, you are obligated to take any job you can get. As a result, legalizing prostitution would be likely to wind up compelling people to be prostitutes

[–]IronWolve 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

As a result, legalizing prostitution would be likely to wind up compelling people to be prostitutes

With that logic, why are the unemployed women and men not all stripping at the local strip clubs?

Now unemployed men who cant pay child support are given options, jail, jail or jail.

[–]Senray -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What does one have to do with the other?

[–]_-_Dan_-_ 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Interesting, are there no regulations regarding a "conscientious objector" status? For example, could you make an ardent pacifist join the military? An atheist work for a church in a faith-relevant capacity? Given that sex work is a highly morally loaded topic/profession, wouldn't similar objections be applicable here as well? If only to differentiate sex work from sex trafficking (huge difference between the two)?

Another aspect would be qualification. It's easy to see sex work as "easy", but I am not so sure about it. My guess is that with a mismatch in skills/qualification/attitude, it burns you out quickly. And then no one wins.

[–]Senray -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The military is different, since it involves such a loss of liberty, faith has the same issue and First Amendment protection.

[–]_-_Dan_-_ 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The question is, can you give sex work a similar status to allow those who want to go into that profession to perform the work legally and allow those who do not want to take this work to decline. I think both are perfectly understandable decisions that depend on the individual involved. And yup, I see similarities to other work to requires a certain moral/faith based stance.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How's that different from the porn industry. Not exactly a lot of women running to be in porn films even though it's basically the same thing.

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