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MP's son attacked by girl gang - 'raised to not hit a woman.'

TheCitizenAct

July 10, 2015
73 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11731945/MPs-son-attacked-by-girl-gang-in-Leicester-Square-KFC.html
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Title MP's son attacked by girl gang - 'raised to not hit a woman.'
Author

TheCitizenAct

Upvotes 73
Comments 30
Date July 10, 2015 5:13 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3ctgdu/mps_son_attacked_by_girl_gang_raised_to_not_hit_a/
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Comments

[–]TheCitizenAct[S] 24 points25 points26 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

As the narrative goes, if you hit back you are a 'woman beater' and if you don't hit back, and take a beating, you are a 'sissy.'

Quite the narrative that has been constructed. It's a bit like the 18th century really, if a man is found to have beaten his wife he is tied to a post and lashed, and if he is found to have been bested by his wife in a fight he is dragged through a village on a cart while everyone beats him with pots and pans.

[–]Lethn 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Frankly, I think it's time we started going after these fuckers who are the ones establishing those kind of narratives. When I think about scenarios where I have to defend myself if a woman attacks. I'm not going to be worrying about her, I'm going to be more concerned about any scumbags that might jump in thinking they're heroes.

I wish it weren't the case, but that's the sort of reality we live in.

[–]NorthernDude1990 20 points21 points22 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Girl Gangs can be incredibly violent and most of them use the "don't hit girls" social norm to their advantage.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If three girls are swinging on me in a KFC - I'm swinging back.

[–]liquid_j 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yup... I'd rather face a judge then St. Peter.

[–]AngryCyberCriminal 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But before you could even lay your second punch, three whiteknights would jump in to 'protect her' and kick your ass.. There is nothing you can do except from getting the fuck out of there.

[–]blueoak9 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

They are feral. They should be identified, tracked and euthanized.

[–]Blutarg 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Locked up is enough.

[–]ThePigmanAgain 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Only if in isolation, where they can't do this to the less violent convicts.

[–]andejoh 19 points20 points21 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"There were security guards standing around doing absolutely nothing. They ignored it, even though he was being attacked."

Maybe the security guards were brought up never to hit a woman too. Wouldn't that be an interesting excuse?

[–]yelirbear 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"He said to the bouncers 'help me, help me, I am being attacked.' But they turned round and said 'we don't want that sort of thing here.'

Just imagine a woman being attacked by a man calling for help to be ignored with "we don't want that sort of thing here." I bet you'll have trouble imagining because it's never happened in history. Better chance to see a unicorn than to see men and women being treated equally.

[–]baskandpurr[🍰] 12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

Poor guy, I hope he recovers.

This an interesting mix of privilege (the real kind, held by a woman in this case), race, sexism and nepotism. Would that MP have been so active in response to anyone except her own son being attacked? Her response seems slippery in a very political way. Her son was put in hospital by a gang of untouchable violent black females. I wonder if she wants to mention race but considers it politically dangerous. Most likely she won't mention sexism because that works against her traditionalist values.

[–]blueoak9 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

I wonder if she wants to mention race but considers it politically dangerous.

Their race doesn't matter because it almost certainly was not what made them think they had a right to attack and expect no resistance. The blame for that is on English culture that privileges females so completely and its "men don't hit women" dogma.

[–]baskandpurr[🍰] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Absolutely. The question was whether she wants to mention race. She probably avoided saying anything about sexism because it could be politically risky so you have to wonder whether she also wants to talk about race and is avoiding that too. Conservatives are the right leaning party of privilege, tradition and wealth. They are likely to have both sexist and racist attitudes.

[–]the-tominator 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They certainly have sexist and racist attitudes - they have quotas and cynically promote women and minorities to high positions while their backbenchers are nearly all the old white men that the party leadership has left behind and doesn't particularly like. The tories have been parachuting in female candidates everywhere in a cynical, but successful, attempt to get women's votes. She is no doubt aware of the new 'privileged middle-class women' appeal of her party and wouldn't want to hurt it.

[–]Blutarg 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you! Like white women never act horribly because they know they'll get away with it.

[–]the-tominator 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think race meant another reason people aged scared to fight back. Don't want to be accused of being a racist or doing a hate crime. It's similar to gender.

Defend yourself against a woman, if you're a man you might be called a woman-beater. Defend yourself against a black person, if you're white you might be called a racist, skinhead etc.

[–]ThePigmanAgain 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Their race doesn't matter because it almost certainly was not what made them think they had a right to attack and expect no resistance.

But it may have been the reason they attacked him. We do not know. What we do know is that if they were white and he was black the race thing would have come up by now.

[–]Ultramegasaurus 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Sue those vicious cunts. Sue those "security guards". Sue the owners of the establishment that refused him shelter.

[–]Krissam 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This was England, not America.

[–]NorthernDude1990 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We are almost as bad as a sue culture

[–]ThePigmanAgain 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"You bring your children up never to get involved in fights, and he was not going to hit a woman."

You reap what you sow, you stupid bitch. Too bad it was her son that got fucked up and not her. And ain't it weird that the attackers were black and he was white? Reverse that and everyone would be speculating about hate crime, but as it is it's cool.

[–]chokingonlego 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is just another example of the culture we live in teaching us that we can't defend ourselves against violence from women. It's boggling, the way they've institutionalized their corrupt morals. I remember last year I was riding the bus and mentioned to one of my friends what would they do if they were assaulted by a woman, all they could respond was "Don't hit back. You can't. You can't attack a woman, no matter what." And as I further pressed the question to what if they were being kidnapped by a woman, they were only able to say that same thing again. It's depressing to think third wave feminism has become so ingrained in our society, but luckily it appears that our men's rights narrative is growing.

[–]Wargame4life 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Here is my prediction: i bet they get found and arrested and i bet they falsely claim he either sexually assaulted them or racially abused them.

would put money on it

[–]NorthernDude1990 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

May not work with all these witnesses though

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

On the bright side, he isn't facing a long physical rehabilitation from a prison cell, so there's a silver lining.

[–]aksuVOIMAMIES 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

He saved himself from jail! Good for him.

[–]denyjunctionfunction 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He wouldn't go to jail anyway. He's the son of a MP.

[–]Wargame4life 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

dunno how to feel about this, part of me feels its karma, if you yourself hold ridiculous bigoted views such as "You should never ever strike a woman under any circumstance" i really have no sympathy for you when you get stomped by one. since your view is instrumental in the injustice people receive when they do fight back and its justified.

I box and have hit hundreds of women in training, and been hit by them too. you have ever right both morally and legally to defend yourself from attack regardless of sex.

[–]garglemesh42 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Morally, yeah. Legally? Heh, good luck with that.

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