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Doesn't it go without saying?

Septiimus

June 24, 2015
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Title Doesn't it go without saying?
Author

Septiimus

Upvotes 90
Comments 22
Date June 24, 2015 10:17 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3b05eb/doesnt_it_go_without_saying/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/doesnt-it-go-without-saying.976805
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[–]DavidByron2 34 points35 points36 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, often women complain about men using the "family" area, so it often doesn't go without saying at all. Anywhere with children is often a no-go area for men.

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points28 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

It should go without saying, but it doesn't.

As a stay-at-home dad I love that shopping centre has these. "Family Lounge" is codename for rooms with multiple toilets together (not separated) and diaper change stations and breast feeding areas. Without this "clarification" I can easily get yelled at or chased out (or even "politely asked to leave" as "I'm making them feel uncomfortable" when e.g. breastfeeding. You know, "if I don't mind")

So it's sad we live in a society where this sign is needed, but this sign is needed.

[–]rendermatt 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Wtf? Women fight for being allowed to breast feed in public but also want to be able to dictate who is allowed to be around them? Maybe they're two mutually exclusive groups?

I've encountered this view myself at least. Family vacation and this mom is sitting in the living room, I come in and say something. She ignores me, then says "I'm nursing." like I'm doing something wrong. Yeah fuck off, you can't come out of your own room and hijack the entire living room out of principle. Pick a privilege, privacy and forcing people out of the room (I thought breasts weren't sexual anyway, feminists?) or being able to breastfeed in public.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Actually - that area is not "in public". It's more like a rest room. Women who go to breast feed there are women who do NOT want to breast feed in public.

And feminist do consider breasts to be sexual. Even those who claim they aren't. How can you tell? See the difference between touching someone's shoulder vs. touching their breast. Even those who maintain that breasts are not sexual will still claim that grabbing breasts is sexual assault.

[–]rendermatt 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Well it's kind of public in that it's open to anyone with kids. The idea that you can hijack a room and yell/chase people away, especially discriminating against men, is ridiculous. If they want a private place, they should feed at home, in a dressing room, or bathroom stall (can't be any dirtier than the family area, with toilets frequented by kids) because this family area obviously isn't private.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well it's kind of public in that it's open to anyone with kids

That's the point - without this sign, people assume it's only open to women with kids. The place was viewed just like a "dressing room" - or more accurately a "breast feeding + diaper changing + kid toilet room"

[–]rendermatt -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Does it have a lock? Is it meant to hold more than one family?

[–]td9red 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

<~~~~ a female, I'm all for nursing and did nurse my children. But, only nutty mothers want to be out on a public bench nursing for the world to see. These nuts give the world the impression that every mother wants to do this. No thank you most don't Most want their boobs kept private.

[–]GenderNeutralLanguag 29 points30 points31 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It doesn't go without saying. In fact the assumption that males are not allowed in "family" spaces is so strong that I really appreciate the explicit inclusion of fathers.

[–]Septiimus[S] 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I saw this in a mall in Indiana. I was taking my road weary toddler to the restroom.

[–]ThePigmanAgain 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It should, but it doesn't.

[–]Vanriel 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It doesn't go without saying, but it damn well SHOULD go without saying.

[–]ConfirmedCynic 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The mall owner probably put that sign there exactly because women kept complaining.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dads are discriminated against practically everywhere these days. It's a crying shame that they have to specify that dad is, indeed, part of the family!

[–]geniice 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Looks like some kind of mall so assume marketing. Probably feel they have a lack of dads taking their kids shopping and are trying to nudge them in the direction of doing so.

[–]chavelah 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When I see those signs, I infer that the room offers actual privacy for breastfeeding mothers, as opposed to having a couple of chairs right out in the open next to changing table. Which you'd think would go without saying, since the kind of mother (or baby) who needs a separate area to nurse probably doesn't want a procession of strange adults and romping toddlers fucking up their letdown reflex, but in my day (get off my lawn!), malls had not yet figured out that simple aspect of interior design. You could turn around the chair to face the wall, but that was pretty much your only option. The best setup I've seen is curtained cubicles set up around edge of a larger room with toys, a couch, a changing table and a single handicapped-accessible bathroom.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes it does. Stop bitching like a Feminists for stuff like this. See it as support and move on. Soon MRAs will be crying like SJWs if this keeps up.

[–]td9red 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think the sign is to alert mother and fathers that the room is not a nursing room

[+][deleted] 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Why?

We can be sure that this was after some number of women complained and the mall responded correctly.

[–]undead_keyboard 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. It's sad, but this is necessary.

[–]Vance87 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

after some number of women complained and the mall responded correctly.

Correctly...

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