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Oregon man falsely accused of sexual assault - commits suicide while police issue restraining order and kick him out of his house.

Gnomish8

June 19, 2015
99 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.oregonlive.com/forest-grove/index.ssf/2015/06/after_man_kills_himself_as_det.html#incart_river
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Title Oregon man falsely accused of sexual assault - commits suicide while police issue restraining order and kick him out of his house.
Author

Gnomish8

Upvotes 99
Comments 31
Date June 19, 2015 4:16 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3aezvg/oregon_man_falsely_accused_of_sexual_assault/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/oregon-man-falsely-accused-of-sexual-assault.977220
https://theredarchive.com/post/977220
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Comments

[–]jb_trp 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link

I used to live in the Portland area. That was so sad to read. Seems like that guy had some mental health issues (alcoholism, depression, suicidal thoughts, etc.). I'm not sure about labeling this a "false accusation" depending on the woman's mental state. She took some drugs and drank--maybe she passed out? The article wasn't so clear. Why were they still living together if they've been broken up for 2 weeks?

[–]MisterDamage 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

Neither one had any place else to go. She had another partner and wanted him out of the house. Mission accomplished I suppose.

[–]dungone 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (15 children) | Copy Link

Where does it say she had another partner? She had "feelings" for someone else and they were breaking up. Break-ups happen, there is nothing sinister about that. But if the guy was drinking an 18 pack and a bottle of SoCo in a day and playing around with putting a gun to his head, I think a restraining order is a pretty prudent measure. I think you're jumping to conclusions here.

[–]MisterDamage 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

And who told us he was drinking an 18 pack and a bottle of soco?

[–]dungone -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago* (13 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, the guy shot his brains out. I'm going to give her the benefit of a doubt. It's not like she was making the whole thing up when she told the police that he was suicidal.

He was also drinking when the cops showed up. I'm all about calling out women behaving badly, but I just don't see it here. So you're calling the girl a liar, then?

[–]MisterDamage 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Whose jumping to conclusions now eh?

[–]dungone 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Well, right this moment I'm concluding that "I know you are but what am I?" is the best you can do for a response. But other than that nothing's changed.

[–]MisterDamage 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

So you're not jumping to conclusions?

I'm going to give her the benefit of a doubt

Winds up for the jump

He was also drinking when the cops showed up.

Therefore he drank 18 cans and a bottle... stuck the landing! 10/10 from the ukranian judge

[–]dungone 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (9 children) | Copy Link

The level of denial you're displaying is pretty astounding.

[–]MisterDamage 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

If you say so dude. If you want to be taken seriously though, you might want to start by not doing exactly what you're accusing someone else of doing.

[–]Gnomish8[S] 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It's incredibly sad. There were so many signs that this guy needed help and so many people ignored them, including the police and our justice system (judge that signed off on restraining order). This article touches on the accusation (police "didn't plant to arrest him"), but I applaud the writer for trying to illustrate the guy as a human that needed help rather than focusing on the accusations. I doubt we'll ever get answers as to what specifically happened that night, but what's been speculated is that they were both intoxicated, sex happened, she wakes up sober and regrets it as she's interested in someone else (mentioned in the article).

TBH, tragedy all around and at the very least a show of how our system fails men who need mental help.

[–]jb_trp 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree. I did appreciate how the article humanized him. It seems like the police were pretty gentle and patient with him. I do think male suicide is a huge problem.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The US isn't the only place where the system fails men. Sad state of affairs in a lot of places. What a bloody tragedy. SMH

[–]dungone -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't know - after reading the article I can't help but think that we shouldn't jump to too many conclusions here.

It seems as though the girl asked for the restraining order specifically because he was deeply depressed, suicidal, and had guns in the house. She specifically asked for the police to check in on him to make sure he was okay. In light of what happened next, it's pretty clear that she actually did the right thing. This wasn't just out of spite and revenge, and I wouldn't have expected her to put her own life in danger just because she was involved in a messy breakup.

So the cops showed up and misread the situation. It doesn't sound like they ignored his depression. They took the time to speak to him on friendly terms and heard him out about the relationship. In hindsight they could have done more to protect the victim as well as themselves. But you know what - it sounds like they were actually trying to be nice to him and treating him like a human being, not like some sort of rapist monster.

[–]Koalachan 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I live in the Portland Area. I wonder if the King is the same deputy King I've met before, which I'm pretty sure it is, cause his partners name also sounds familiar. If it is, the guy is a total nut-job and doesn't care about people, at least not of the male type. He got called out to my place for domestic disturbance, I made the mistake of calling, and the entire time he talked to me he had his hand on his sidearm ready to draw it, even though I was the one who called, was the one distraught, was clearly not armed, etc. etc.

[–]dungone 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's really not how the article makes it sound, though. After reading it, I feel bad for everyone involved.

[–]roteroktober 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

how come you can just be thrown out of your own house just by the word from one person.

like she said "i wont him gone" and so the police went and kicked him out. its messed up.

[–]SigmundFloyd76 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Victim of spurious Emergency protection order here.

I was falsely accused of violence by my ex as a tactic to take control of my house and kids. It's more common than you think, my lawyer said atleast 50% of the EPO's in my province are spurious.

[–]Gnomish8[S] 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In fact, many people are encouraged by their lawyers to seek this protection without cause because of the beneficial position gained by this strategic move.

These orders are easy to obtain -- all a woman has to do is say that she is in reasonable fear for her safety. Documented evidence of abuse is not required.

Holy crap that's terrifying. Sorry you had to go through that dude...

[–]roteroktober 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

i wonder what happens when a man trirs that tactic

[–]bhuckl 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I suffered this same indignation, married for 10 years with 3 kids. I was removed from my house with out any wrongdoing on my part or any thought as to where I could go . The deputies that enforced the order said it was probably due to her filing for a divorce because that was the norm. in this area and they were right. I was never legally allowed back into that house.

[–]Shanguerrilla 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Do we as a society not see how dangerous this actually makes it for women? If we are such realistically 'more dangerous' than and to women, then why the hell would they so egregiously incite impotent rage legally? Clearly, physically, we are not relegated to that same impotence.

I've never hit a woman and can't imagine anything short of warranted self defense that I would (same as I could say my actions have been with men). Well.. even I can understand how a man who never abused his wife, was cheated on, then she initiates a divorce, then the cops ego trip all over him on scene after she lies, he's thrown out of his house, the bias continues in court and societal norms.. He loses his home, is treated and convicted of domestic abuse, loses his children, and pays her child support as well as alimony while she unofficially lives with Chad.. Well I can understand why a man wrongly labelled and punished as a wife-beater, who the justice system completely failed- would beat the shit out of her.

I feel like this feminist agenda is creating woman beaters and they are right about one thing: we are more physically dangerous if we decide to be.

That honestly makes me very sad and not just for men, it truly makes me sad for women. Even the ones with ill intent. I don't want her to have a real threat or real damages, so I find it reprehensible that 'she' is creating one for herself from imaginary ones based on emotional whim and ignorant greed, selfishness, and insecurity.

[–]Peter_Principle_ 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Same here. Forced me out and I had to pay a mortgage and rent (expensive Seattle rent, no less) at the same time. The kicker is that the miserable cunt didn't even stay in the home, she applied for section 8 housing. Booted me purely as a family court winning tactic.

[–]ShawnS4363 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't understand how a GF can get someone kicked out of their own home.

For Example: You own the home, all bills are in your name and on paper you are the only person who lives there.

How does that work?

[–]crabpipe 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

claim you two live together and then complain that he is a 'threat', boom, emergency protective order and the man cannot come within hundreds of feet of his own home

[–]feministNo1 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Where does it say falsely?

[–]ARedthorn 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It doesn't, but after discussing the charge with him, they felt no reason to even arrest him.

The order still had to be served though, because it had a judge's name on it.

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[–]Shanguerrilla 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Because he wasn't 'the monster' the judge and woman viewed and treated him as.

[+][deleted] 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]Shanguerrilla 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't imply that. Now, don't quote me, but I have a theory that not everyone who talks about killing people on the internet is a monster or a murderer.

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