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Why is it that every female in the @askwomenadvice subreddit disagree with everything that aligns with trp’s principals? For instance, they all think that there isn’t such a thing as “shit test”.

Papi189

May 22, 2018
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Title Why is it that every female in the @askwomenadvice subreddit disagree with everything that aligns with trp’s principals? For instance, they all think that there isn’t such a thing as “shit test”.
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Papi189

Upvotes 15
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Date May 22, 2018 1:34 PM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/askTRP
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/8la0fr/why_is_it_that_every_female_in_the_askwomenadvice/
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[–][deleted] 61 points62 points63 points 8 years ago* (15 children) | Copy Link

The best way to describe this is through languages:

When you are learning another language (let's use French as an example), you are learning things in class like "imparfait" and "passe compose".

To you, it makes sense. But to French people, this technical form of teaching makes ZERO sense to them. Why? Because the language they speak naturally is engrained in them. They've internalized the concept, so they don't need to sit around and be like "yeah what I said was passe compose, now he's replying in imparfait".

The same applies here: Women aren't sitting around going, "hmm I want to initiate a shit test for this guy, how am I going to shit test him today?" They are just saying flirty things or stuff that pops into their head.

TRP basically just noticed common things they like to ask/do, threw them into a document, and came up with a term for them. Same way people teach French: they noticed common trends in their language, and put them into documents. In this sense, the shit tests 101 document is similar to when you learn the technical standpoint of a language.

Because of that, women don't even really acknowledge what they are doing when they engage in what we call "shit tests".

[–]resnine14 points15 points16 points 8 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

So pretty much, they are ignorant to their own nature?

[–]it_takes_the_redpill8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Pretty much.

Men can't act out their natural sexual strategy anymore because of society. Enforced monogomy was the solution to the chaos, keeping women's hypergamy (their nature) in check.

But divorce rape and other factors have caused it so there are no/low repercussions to branch swinging.

In the past, if she was a cunty wife you could threaten to kick her out or hit her or something. This doesn't mean that is the ideal state, but it did mean that the men held some power in the situation. But now, you can't threaten violence, and if you try to get them to leave, the government can come and force you to give up half your shit and 20% of your ongoing income. We've had much of our power stripped.

When you add to this that more women are in the workforce and earning than ever before, the number of men that they consider valuable is lower than ever.

Basically, the strategies men have been told to use are useless and bullshit, while women basically just continue to use the same old strategy. Women are the selectors. But selection means judgment. Their hamster doesn't want to admit that subconsciously much of what they do is to gauge men's reactions and judge them, and to judge something you have to test it.

[–]resnine4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, not the best time to be a man. Unless you REALLY got your shit together. You have to be 10x that of what one use to be 30+ years ago. So many women are in high positions making 6 figures, have PhDs. Women seem to be on average way more educated than men are nowadays. I could be wrong, I haven't looked up the stats, just basing this off of dating sites. Many women are holding great positions, great degrees from prestigious universities whereas men are working at the local oil shop making 10$/hr. I know that is extreme, but it does seem that way.

Also, from what I understand a "shit test" is basically a way to gauge your reaction to something they say and do? test of your emotional strength and physical strength? Like if they start talking about an ex, or talk about some nonsense, they want to see how those words will affect your state of mind.

[–]it_takes_the_redpill0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Also, from what I understand a "shit test" is basically a way to gauge your reaction to something they say and do? test of your emotional strength and physical strength? Like if they start talking about an ex, or talk about some nonsense, they want to see how those words will affect your state of mind.

Nailed it. But its not really at a conscious level, thus the denial.

[–]resnine-1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

And their denial and "their" reasoning is basically hamstering?

[–]it_takes_the_redpill-1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Well now that requires a bit of nuance.

A lot of people in general online won't really engage in meaningful debate because they are unwilling to entertain new ideas.

But let's consider the subset of girls capable of rational thought. Many of them consider red pill ideas anathema, but if you explain it to them in ordinary language, most of them will admit that they test their partner's behavior, or at least admit it when you show them that behavior in other women. But it's natural for them. So natural that they don't think about it, they just do it on instinct.

If they admit to this testing behavior, then they are admitting to shit tests even if they don't use the term. And many of them don't like having the underlying mechanism revealed to them, so thats where the hamster comes in. She won't outright tell you that her deepest desire when she nags is that you put her in her place demonstrating that you are a man who won't be stepped on. So she'll tell you she "just really like my husband doing the dishes in a particular way, I'm not testing him."

[–]resnine0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Should I just treat her shit tests as if it were a man straight up disrespecting me? Like if a man called me a piece of shit motherfucker or some other insult? I think that's what she is trying to gauge.

[–]it_takes_the_redpill2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You're onto something there but it should be clarified.

Should I just treat her shit tests as if it were a man straight up disrespecting me?

Disrespecting? No. As if it were a man joking with you? Yes.

Ever been out with your friends and one says "resnine is such a girl!"

Do you go up to him in anger and call him out and make a scene? No, it's just a little harmless fun. Agree and amplify. You respond "oh yeah? Come on over here and give my tits a squeeze."

Now let's say the same friend, all night, keeps on going making fun of the way you dance, your clothes, the way you hit on that one girl, your "lame" hobby. Mostly harmless shit said playfully, but he won't let up. After enough shit, you start getting annoyed. You give some distance and stop acting as friendly, to try to get the point across that he better stop fucking with you. But you don't start a fight. You fight, you lose a friend possibly for good.

Same thing with women. You fight, you lose.The occasional shit test isn't disrespect. Honestly if you get angry over one or two shit tests, you're never going to be happy. It's the frequency that's more important. Too much of it is absolutely disrespect. You ignore, or deflect, start dreading her or next her or whatever. But the problem is not that a girl throws out a shit test every now and again, that's plain gonna happen. You just want them to be few and far between, and recognize that if they increase in frequency it is a sign that something needs to be addressed in your relationship.

[–]resnine0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I sense that she is trying to gauge how I handle myself with other men and situations, so she straight up tests me and sees how I react/deal with those situations. As if it were a man straight up insulting me or taking advantage of me.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree with most of your points except for the not the best time to be a man part. Don’t fall into that trap. Sure it might be a little more retarded in terms of what women expect but remember that in these days most men have a choice.

Decades and centuries ago the situation you were born into trapped you there. These days the bar might be a little higher but we have SO many opportunities. Don’t adopt that grass is greener mentality. Because so many men have bought into that fantasy feminist bs they’ve gotten fat and lazy. Makes it much easier to be the top 20% or at least reach near that level. It’s been established that money is only one avenue to power and women. You can be broke and still slay.

In this day and age being a man is a wealth of choice and opportunity. YOU decide if you wanna be a badass or not. It may not have been as easy as say, pre pc feminist culture, but it’s not as bad as say medieval times, and it’s def not a bad time to be alive where you actually have the time to worry about this stuff rather than whether you’ll die from smallpox or starvation.

Goodluck friends, embrace your penis.

[–]Snazzy_Serval-1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, not the best time to be a man. Unless you REALLY got your shit together.

I have this thought on a regular basis.

Right now it really sucks to be a man and I see no benefit.

Even worse is that I'm a 5'5 white guy. I'm in my late 30's and life has pretty much fucking sucked.

[–]resnine0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I can relate, I am close to 30 and don't have a degree and make shit money. Let's not have a pity party for ourselves. Just focus on solutions and bettering ourselves, I think that is what we are all hear for. To boost each other up.

[–]W_O_M_B_A_T0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't ask a fish for fishing advice.

It's called the Bias-Blind-Spot effect.

It's very difficult to recognize your own schemas, biases, and implicit assumptions. For example, people tend to rate themselves as far more honest and straightforward than they are.

[–]Papi189[S] 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks a lot, this clarifies it a lot.

[–]ihateyouguys2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Aaaand now I just want a parfait

[–]Store_Front_Door26 points27 points28 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Of course they don't want to accept the fact that a bunch of apes have cracked down the code of their sexual behaviour

[–]Papi189[S] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lmaoo! 😂😂😂

[–]priapula0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

not true, however. they simply don't think they do it, its just natural for them

[–]hijinkshalo0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

you realize that humans can become aware of their behavior through understanding psychology, though? so like, maybe they just actually don't do it.

[–]nofilmynofucky28 points29 points30 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Imagine you're playing poker with a bunch of rich dudes who have no fucking clue what they're doing, they're practically throwing money at you and you're winning with ease

Then, imagine a new guy comes into the room and starts teaching the others how to play.

[–]Papi189[S] 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Underrated comment! This one right here is a winner. Thabks a lot, boss

[–]NJA4242 1 points1 points1 points 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I'm gonna paraphrase Patrice here. Don't ask a deer how to hunt deer. They just are, if you really want to hunt asks hunter.

Women don't view what they do as anything because they just do. Men have a reason as to why they do things even if it's a shitty one. Look up the book of Pook in the sidebar and read the womanese sections.

[–]resnine3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn that's it. Don't ask a deer how to hunt, ask a hunter....

[–]my_sfw_alias4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Patrice... was more into bears. He would walk up to the largest, blackest woman in the checkout line and say “you look like your breath stank” and then begin the process of trapping the beast.

Dante hunts deer.. Jeffrey Gurian hunts bunnies. Different techniques for each.

Hey I just got a new coloring book and some sweet crayons do you want to come over and color?

[–]chadjugo0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Alan Roger Curie is another Bear hunter

The power of easing tension/controlling frame with a sista is almost God Tier.

[–]Papi189[S] 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Thanks a lot, I will check that book out. They told me that cold approaching is weird and that I should only approach women in social situations

[–]youcantdenythat0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Someday you'll understand that any man that has to ask is weird.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen12 points13 points14 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Who gives a fuck about women's opinions? Why do you even read that horseshit?

[–]2niczar2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd frame it as part of understanding how women work. Noticing that women deny our observations against all evidence is useful data in and of itself. And not caring about it is indeed useful as well.

[–]priapula0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why do you even read that horseshit?

exactly tf

[–]MTNSC12 points3 points4 points 8 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Quit that site and went looking for other better advice sites after getting into an argument with one of their regulars who was adamant that you should never, ever approach a women except in a bar, club or unless introduced by friends. That it was basically sexual harassment if you talked to a girl at a café, coffee shop, in line at lunch, in a park, at the beach, at the gym, or particularly when they were working in any way...blah, blah, blah. The bint was so stupid that even after I relayed that my current girl was tending bar at a social event when we got to chatting and she gave me her number, she was adamant that my SO didn't want to chat with me, that I was sexually harassing her, she only gave the number to make me go away despite the reality that we have been seeing each other for over a year...it didn't matter this bint declared that she did not like me bothering her while she was working....idiot.

No amount of examples, where having done so led to meeting interesting awesome women leading to great dates\relationships, made any impact on her except to make her more and more angry along with being adamant that I was a sexual predator harassing "busy" women in their lives.

I had started out with the simple question in a discussion wondering how was a person who didn't frequent bars and clubs supposed to go about meeting women. We had gone back and forth where it finally came out that she had been in 5 marriages, each one of which she had met in a bar. I got reported to her friends on that mod squad after suggestingthat maybe she would have had better luck with marriages if she hadn't made all her choices for a mate in a dark bar while fueled on booze.

Leave that site alone.

[–]Papi189[S] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Haha this is gold! I was told the same exact thing by all of them, they said that cold approach is plain rude and unattractive. Also got into an argument after I stated that I don’t wanna use dating apps since I’m trying to avoid being catfished by a tranny or some fat chick. In your case, that chick based all of her argument on her own experience, which isn’t enough. No wonder she got divorced 5x lol

[–]askmrcia0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I got into the same argument with women in an "ask reddit" thread.

They complained it was sexual harassment if a guy approaches them in a social setting (club, bars, party, coffee shop, theme park, ect...).

The thread was titled "women what are some things guys do that is considered creepy but they don't think it's creepy".

Like yea they were actually calling guys creeps for approaching them in bars. It was fuckin unbelievable.

Like why the fuck would you go to a bar if you don't want to be approached? Just stay home.

[–]MTNSC11 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What those women are are socially awkward chicks that can't function in social settings and usually are boring, uninteresting chicks that found the first guy from a friend group that would show them a modicum of interest, so they latched onto that one dude and forestalled the whole dating\relationship world.

Most are basic unhappy and bored with their stale relationships but not enough to risk the sometimes volatile emotions of searching for a mate that blows their socks off....so they settle...ending up as the ones you see at the mall in their late 20s\30s looking like dead zombies racing around with their equally unhappy mates trailing 10ft behind them.....and not even start discussing the "dead bedroom".

[–]resnine1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Either they are lying or they are actually blind to their own ways.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Why not both?!

[–]resnine0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because blind would imply they are unaware they are doing it.

[–]red13blue42 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why are you asking women about women? They don't recognize their own behavior. They just project their fears on men.

[–]TheTrenTrannyTrain0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sheeples are going to be sheeples, they can't let men reveal their "female mystique" to be nothing more than hypergamy.

[–]zboo1h-1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Having a wealth of self-knowledge, being able to metacognate and reflect, those are extremely important when it comes to being a whole person.

Most women though aren't whole people, they're hole people.

[–]priapula-1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

why are you asking on that subreddit and mentioning stuff like "shit test" thats autistic

[–]Aesthetik_1-1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women habe very little self awareness and all of these behaviours aren't really conscious. Kinda like calling a man out on why he likes guns or cars

[–]BurnieSlander-1 points0 points1 point 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

hahahah I love this question so much

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