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More teach men not to rape bullshit with fake stats.

heuheu

April 22, 2015
44 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.change.org/p/ontario-ministry-of-education-make-consent-a-topic-in-the-2015-ontario-health-curriculum
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Title More teach men not to rape bullshit with fake stats.
Author

heuheu

Upvotes 44
Comments 22
Date April 22, 2015 8:34 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/33ilfd/more_teach_men_not_to_rape_bullshit_with_fake/
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Went over to /r/feminism and nearly spit my drink out.

171 upvotes
September 17, 2015
/r/MensRights

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[–]murphtaf 10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I would genuinely like to see consent talk in school too. But not the feminist version of "girls are the only group whose consent is important (since boys always have sex on the mind and will do it with whoever will offer) and if she even stutters before giving consent, then the boy's a rapist".

I would like to see the facts laid out to the kids. "Boys, if a girl has had even a drop of alcohol, you're a rapist." "Boys, if you've had any alcohol, no matter how much, and she says 'no', you're still a rapist."

This kind of stuff should be told to kids so they and/or their parents get outraged at the double-standards. Consent is an important thing to talk about, just as the legal/societal double-standards that exist are too.

[–]Francois_Rapiste 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

"We live in a culture in which rape and sexual violence is expected and accepted as a norm."

Suuuuure you do.

Man, I don't remember being that stupid when I was that age.

[–]chavelah 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Young people believe what they are taught. I was taught in school that I was likely to be the victim of at least an attempt at date rape sometime in my young life. These girls aren't stupid. They are pissed off and they want things changed. They are just mistaken about what needs changing.

[–]Francois_Rapiste 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Depends on the kid, honestly. My parents raised me to be a rational, skeptical person. Even at the age of eleven I was questioning everything around me.

[–]chavelah 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How handy for your parents, that you so throughly internalized what they taught you. ;-)

[–]Francois_Rapiste 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Heh. Kinda backfired when I ended up questioning our religion, I suppose.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Username doesn't check out.

[–]nubbingly 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Archive

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Oh... you don't rape people? That's where I have been going wrong, I thought it was the other way round. This is going to make visiting my in-laws awkward.

[–]Ovedya2011 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Nah. Remember, "We live in a culture in which rape and sexual violence is expected and accepted as a norm." Go ahead, rape away, they expect you to.

[–]DevilishRogue 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It would be rude not to, amirite?

[–]JackBadass 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

1 in 4. Why does that sound so familiar?

[–]mrstickman 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

 In Canada 1 in 4 women in will experience at least one incident of sexual assault in their life. Half of these assaults will be against women under 16 years of age. That is one too many.

It took me a while to figure out what they were trying to say, but most of that time was spent trying to stop laughing.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's kind of shocking these people are still getting away with these bullshit stats.

[–]dj4y_94 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I can't believe how dense some people have to be to think rape will simply go away if we tell people not to do it. Rape is illegal, it's a crime, people know this yet they still do it. Why? Because some people are just fucked up in this world and do horrible things. No amount of teaching will change that.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd actually love to see how much traction a "teach women not to abuse their children" movement got.

I'm guessing not much.

[–]questionnmark 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Consent society huh? "From 1973 through 2008, nine surveys of women's rape fantasies have been published. They show that about four in 10 women admit having them (31 to 57 percent) with a median frequency of about once a month. Actual prevalence of rape fantasies is probably higher because women may not feel comfortable admitting them."

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/all-about-sex/201001/womens-rape-fantasies-how-common-what-do-they-mean

I think one just has to read romance novels to see what kind of fantasies are popular, and one only has to think of the legality of many of these fantasies to see what kind of a minefield men sometimes have to navigate.

[–]elwahrio 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

An Australian comedy came out recently about couples trying to satisfy each others sexual fantasies. The main plot line is about a guy trying to figure out and organise how to legally 'rape' his S.O after she asks him to. The movie is funny in its absurdity. It's called 'the little death'.

Another character starts a months long campaign of emotional abuse against her husband because she can only orgasm when he's crying.

Edit: Missed a word.

[–]Ultramegasaurus 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"We live in a culture in which rape and sexual violence is expected and accepted as a norm."

Oh, that's why rapists get lynched by vigilantes.

[–]tehDemonseye 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And their change.org petition "won" ...

[–]scdi 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

With 3 in 2 women being raped and absolutely no false rape claims, we have to do something!!!!111!

[–]Luckyluke23 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

why don't we teach women not to lead men on get drunk have CONSENSUAL sex. then realize she might get called a slut after the fact and stream rape from the top of her lungs.

we don't need to teach men not to rape. we need to tell society SLUT SHAMING IS WRONG!

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