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Heyyyy it is I, the devil’s advocate

August 14, 2022

IF every cishet relationship involves two people of opposite genders and

IF women get more attention than men on dating sites and

IF the “majority of relationships” are formed on dating sites and

IF the majority of single parent families are female led…

THEN all men would have to do to help each other out is just stop cheating on women.

Cuz hear me out, one woman is only looking for one man so why is she getting messages from a hundred dudes? They probably correspond with women who aren’t on the site because like the dudes, they aren’t single but unlike the dudes, they aren’t cheating.

Fite me in the comments.

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Title Heyyyy it is I, the devil’s advocate
Author catniagara
Upvotes 1
Comments 22
Date August 14, 2022 10:33 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]SaltyGeekyLifter 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Your third point is wrong, or the definition of Relationship that you’re using is wrong.

Women on dating apps only select the top 20% of men as a potential match (with height being disproportionately important). Let’s call that 20% the Chads.

Men generally are genetically driven to fuck as many women as possible, although they prefer those that are the most attractive.

This means the Chads fuck most women on dating sites. I mean, they get biblical amounts of pussy. The other men get very slim pickings. Chads do not consider this activity “relationships”, although the women might.

Most women are not the female equivalent of Chad. Thus, they get pump’n’dumped (Chad only wants to drain his balls, irrespective of what he says). And those women think all men are just like the Chads.

The solution is for plain Janes to stop trying to be fucked by Chads. The problem is that Plain Janes think they are way more attractive than they are, because most men will scattergun compliments about how pretty they are on dating apps.

Thus, what needs to happen is two things:

  1. All non-Chads need to stop using dating apps. All they do is inflate the egos of women and provide easy poon for Chads.

  2. Plain Janes need to realise they are Plain Janes, and that Chad is only ever going to pump’n’dump, but that he will lie to get access to her cooch.

Also worth noting that this situation is what is creating incels. While there are both males and females that are as physically attractive as a bucket of smashed crabs, the females can get fucked when they want, but the males NEVER WILL.

This makes them bitter, resentful and violent. Incels are the fault of dating apps.

[–]catniagara[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That’s why it’s in quotes. Since these subs are on some BS about “girls are poisoned by dating apps” yet only like 8% of people meet on dating apps. Maybe instead of sitting around name calling people they are obsessed with for being hot guys or whatever, they should go outside. They are WAY more obsessed with so-called “Chads” than I am, and they don’t understand the nuance of human relations. If you want to understand that you need to jump in the fire, and that’s the only way,

[–]SaltyGeekyLifter 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Chads are resented because they get all the pussy. It’s as simple as that.

So to be clear - what would your advice be for men who are not Chads on the use of dating apps?

Because mine is: don’t use them. At all. And go to the gym instead.

[–]HodgekinWhitePill 6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I just want to first say, you're not playing devil's advocate.

Second, trying to debunk an idea without fully understanding the concepts is laughable.

Top tier men don't give a fuck about bottom tier men. Matter of fact, most women don't give a fuck about bottom tier men.

Bottom tier men would love monogamy.

Here's an actual solution. Why don't women stop having sex before marriage? That way, Chad won't have access to sex unless he commits to one women.

[–]catniagara[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

If “bottom tier men” love monogamy why are they the ones most likely to talk about how they don’t get a ton of girls while most “top tier men” are in relationships or married?

All RP guys talk about is how they want a TON of girls to be into them, how is that monogamy? My SO had a ton of girls into him and only wanted one girl. Of course I trust him more, who wouldn’t?

[–]HodgekinWhitePill 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol. Sorry, I can't have a debate with someone that dull. Ask your SO to explain it to you, cause it's going to take several hours I don't have.

[–]SaltyGeekyLifter 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

🤣 so, you are questioning why incels complain about getting no sex, while Chads are happy?


[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

your SO husband is a chad as you just implied. the average RPer/blackpiller struggles with the change from 0 partners to 1 partner and consequently thinks it completely insane to see a man having more than 1 option... yet that's what they see.

[–]IHateNormis 5 points6 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

If a lot of dudes are kissless virgins or haven’t had sex in ages how are they cheating?

[–]catniagara[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

Women are virgins longer than men. A lot of dudes aren’t.

[–]IHateNormis 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is downright false. A lot more men die a kissless virgin

[–]EnteFetz 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Where did you get that impression from? Most girls give up their virginity to older Chads in their teens. I've asked several girls in person when they lost their virginity and they all said somewhen in their teens. Some even in their early teens, while I had my first time at 24 and I have several male friends who are virgins in their late 20ies. Young girls tend to sleep with guys who are at least a year older than them and only a small percentage of boys have sex in their teens, while almost all girls get laid at some point in their teens.

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

doesnt even have to be chad tbh, could be a fucking drug dealer living with his mom. but your point stands: it's socialism (really more like fully automated luxury space communism at this point) for the rich/women and rugged capitalism for the poor/men

[–]DreJ-X -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

U need to open ur ages. Perhaps, it was true before. Nowadays? I dont think so

[–]catniagara[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Look up the stats

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

no? have you seen how tits-up they react at the suggestion of a guy having standards for that?

[–]lostwanderer28 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I agree that if the men who are popular with women stuck to one woman, the chance for other men would probably increase.

So, yeah, not cheating, sticking to one partner seems to be the most beneficial for society.

But with the consumerism mindset that we were programmed to become since the early 20th century, most just think about how they themselves can "win the most" without caring about how others feel.

[–]catniagara[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It would be beneficial in so many ways. Like have you noticed how many people look inbred these days? Tell me that’s not a result of boomer pervs running around and taking off on their families so nobody knows who they’re related to? Running around in DNA soup. But I think honestly some guys would do pretty well to just like watch some reality TV and see how hot guys actually are. They aren’t out here sleeping with everyone lol.

[–]SaltyGeekyLifter 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Google “how many children did Genghis Khan have”…

[–]SaltyGeekyLifter 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link


It has nothing to do with “the consumerism mindset” and everything to do with biological imperatives.

Read The Selfish Gene. Realise that that programming is hardwired in to humanity and is reflected in the different ways men and women conduct sexual selection.

Human societies only really tend towards stable monogamy when those societies are small - village-sized.

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

that sounds like a pretty cool idea but consider this:

42% of users on tinder aren't single. of the women, many are just on to inflate their egos or to help their friends select men (a piss-easy task, but i'm supposing it's so that they can be even stricter.) and of the men that do get a lot from that app, most are not going to give a split shit for the men that don't because men don't constitute an in-group identity for males. it's "fuck you, i got mine." many men learn early on the harsh lesson that standing up to their higher-status peers is something they have to do either on their own or not at all.

so it comes down to the one who selects (the woman) to pick wisely. with her millions of years of evolution preparing her to sniff out your reddit post history for misogynistic comments, i'd say she should be more than a match for weeding out cheaters /s.

just kidding preselection is a thing women prefer guys that are already taken

[–]RStonePTRedPill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

How is abstract mental masturbation a redpill discussion? the whole point of redpill is replication of guys, swapping notes about real situations. low rigor high replication strategies.

This is the exact oppositte of that.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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