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I just got shadow banned on PPD, so posting a comment where I show how no one cares about men's suffering

October 25, 2022
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tl;dr: I asked if "this" would be good advice to a rape victim, when it was actually someone saying that lonely, sexless men should just suck it up. Paste of my comment below.

Yesterday, I made this comment in the daily chat:

I read some advice on twitter, about how to deal with the aftermath of being raped, and I'd like to know what you guys think of it:

Sometimes life sucks and it’s not really anybody's fault & there isn’t anything anyone can or should do. The advice should be about learning to deal with pain and the unfairness of the universe without making it everyone else’s problem or making things worse for yourself.

What I didn't mention was that the comment was originally about lonely, sexless men, not rape victims. So, the responses are very interesting.

u/Katatonicsnake wrote:

That’s cruel. Firstly, it is the rapist’s fault and denying that makes it difficult to heal and “deal with the pain”. Secondly, I think it says a lot about this person’s values that they think rape victims are “making it everyone else’s problem”. The victim doesn’t have to learn anything from their experience (often they do, but still), and rape isn’t just another form of “unfairness”. Also, the last sentence “making things worse for yourself” almost sounds like a threat. If someone were to tell me this directly, I would probably assume that there has been a rape in their life and they haven’t really dealt with it yet.

u/samjeethydebased wrote:

after reading this I realized that my brain literally does not compute rapists as people

when I first saw this advice I was like "that's not bad advice" but then I saw another comment saying it's the rapist's fault, and I realized "oh yeah some people think rapists are humans", because I just mentally assumed they already took care of it

the best solution to rapists is to put them down, like the animals they are

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Title I just got shadow banned on PPD, so posting a comment where I show how no one cares about men's suffering
Author Silly_Tour2450
Upvotes 5
Comments 31
Date October 25, 2022 1:10 AM UTC (1 month ago)
Subreddit /r/AllPillDebate
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[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

i mean yeah that is just a water is wet thought, people want loner men to either bring em something they want or just disappear. a rape victim on the other hand (presumed female in these commenters' imaginations) is being robbed of something desirable as opposed to a dead weight that has nothing to offer in normies' eyes, and there's a much more clear perpetrator, so you have an easy story to put together in your head. crippling social exclusion and being subjected to rape can both be equally traumatic events for different people.

"deal with it yourself" is pretty much the mantra of men's lives. pretty sure that's what a female cop told me when i called an emergency number to tell em my mom was fighting with my sister.

[–]RedditsOlderBrah 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I have no idea what you are complaining about. Your post explicitly makes what follows as advice to rapists. Lonely men are not mentioned at all. The replies and your ban are absolutely justified.

[–]FastBananaViral 1 point2 points  (57 children) | Copy Link

I disagree with the death penalty in all circumstances and in my opinion rape is an overhyped crime, it is not on par with murder.

[–]SwimmingTheme3736 4 points5 points  (24 children) | Copy Link

Have you ever been raped?

[–]FastBananaViral 0 points1 point  (21 children) | Copy Link

I have actually when I was a child

[–]SmurfESmurferson 1 point2 points  (20 children) | Copy Link

Honest question, based on your post history - how can you be both a rape victim and a kissless incel?

I would think it would make you involuntarily sexually active - kinda like a rape victim can’t be a virgin, by definition

Is it an inventory culture thing? I’m genuinely curious about this

[–]FastBananaViral -1 points0 points  (19 children) | Copy Link

I didn’t know what sex was or that females have vaginas back then. I learned how babies came to be from Dumbo. So as a result I don’t count that. Also I’m not gay.

That remains my only sexual experience to date though and that’s a bit depressing.

[–]NotARussianBot1984 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This assumes theres a woman i wouldn't have sex with. Ive dated women i physically couldn't get hard for they were so obese. If she forced herself on me? Meh shrug it off. Thats being a man.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

in my opinion rape is an overhyped crime, it is not on par with murder.

Wow,this is bold statement.Just read 44 days of hell( in depth) case and Elizabeth fritz case.I would prefer getting murdered than get raped.But I understand why people say that as biology, society and God already forgives rapists.

[–]mcove97NeutralPill 5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

There's different degrees of rape though. There's brutal rape murder, and then there's taking back consent from someone you initially wanted to have sex with kind of rape. Like some people would say I've been raped since I told someone I consented to have with to stop during sex and they didn't so I just powered through it and turned out fine. While it isn't a nice experience at all, if this is rape, then that means being raped isn't necessarily this horrible experience. I would much rather have forced nonconsensual sex with a shitty boyfriend who didn't listen to me than die, so the degree of rape matters. Unfortunately, rape exists on a spectrum from mild to extreme, and that's something people sometimes seem to forget in discussions about rape. Being attacked om the street and kidnapped and raped would likely be way worse and way more traumatizing than being forced into nonconsensual sex with someone you already have an intimate relationship with.

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Of course you will say this as you are man

[–]mcove97NeutralPill 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm a woman through and through xx chromosomes and all.. Though you could say I'm gender non conforming or what the kids nowadays call non-binary cause IDGAF about conforming to traditional gender expectations, but I'm a woman by birth sex none the less.

I just like to form my own opinions on things, which means I'm not gonna have the same opinions as all other women just to get their approval.

[–]FastBananaViral 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I was raped when I was a child and murder is a worse crime

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Because you have penis

[–]RazhL 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Imho, Like most assault crimes, rape perpetrators get off way to easy. You destroy someones life. A lifetime (decades) of stress, anxiety etcetc. And the only punishment for that is average 4 to 8 years in jail? Not even counting good behaviour.
Murder punishments arent even dissimilar from that, but thats a different point i guess.

Maybe you dont see rape on par with murder. But i see little difference personally.

[–]RedditsOlderBrah -1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Nearly all cultures for as long as history has been recorded disagree, but I really like the secondary offence to waster comments like these: cowardice.

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

heres my practical argument for why rape should not be a death penalty crime:

you have to give rapists a reason to not silence their witnesses

[–]RedditsOlderBrah 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think anything is a death penalty crime, but thanks for your post.

[–]FastBananaViral 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nearly all cultures in recorded history controlled female sexuality but we don’t do that anymore.

It’s my opinion and I don’t care what others did

[–]Peacesquad 0 points1 point  (18 children) | Copy Link

I think rape should be death penalty then less men would do it. We need death penalty for molestation and pedophilia too.

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 2 points3 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

heres my practical argument for why rape should not be a death penalty crime:

you have to give rapists a reason to not silence their witnesses

[–]Peacesquad 0 points1 point  (9 children) | Copy Link

Please explain

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 3 points4 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

well if rape is a death penalty crime then after somebody commits rape might as well kill the victim to tie up loose ends right? worst case, you can't give somebody a worse punishment than the death penalty. "be hanged for a sheep as a lamb" as the idiom says

[–]FastBananaViral 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I disagree, raping is not permanent or irreversible like death and rapists can be rehabilitated

[–]Peacesquad 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Why would you spend money and resources on rapists instead of their victims?

[–]FastBananaViral 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Because rapists are people as well

[–]Bikerbats 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

There is a good reason why that's a bad idea. We (USA) tried that with kidnapping once after Charles Lindbergh's infant son was kidnapped and murdered. State after state enacted so-called Lindbergh laws making kidnapping itself a capital offense. Disastrous results. The number of kidnap victims recovered alive or returned upon ransom dropped by more than 1/2. Eventually all those laws were repealed and the number of victims returned alive rebounded to normal.

You'd find the same thing would happen with rape. If rape were a capital crime, then there would be no a priori reason for a rapist to ever let his victim live, as he's already committed a capital crime. In fact now he has every reason to kill his victim, as it ensures no cooperation with law enforcement on her part, with no escalation in penalty for doing so, because you can't kill him twice.

[–]Peacesquad 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn. You’re right

[–]EulenWatcher 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Again, rape and loneliness are two very different issues with different solutions. It doesn't make much sense to compare them, especially when with rape there's one/several people at fault - rapists and with loneliness there usually aren't any people who isolate a person on purpose, this person isolates themselves.

[–]h1shman 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

How do you know you’re shadowbanned? I thought everything you post stops showing up to other people, but we can see this.

[–]Rook_Cross 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't get it? You think your situation of being alone is the same to someone being raped? With omeone being raped, you have a victimizer. In being alone you have not been victimized, and, if you feel you are entitled to someone, you are more akin to the rapist, not the person being assaulted. It's not that people don't care about male suffering. It's that they don't agree with messed up males and their solutions to their "suffering". Again though, I am not 100% sure what you're trying to say here.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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