Response to a post mocking men talking about their issues

AleksandrNevsky · 2025-12-09T14:59:56+00:00

This for the record is why LWMA doesn't approve relationship posts anymore. It's easy fodder for the whiners to say "SEE! They don't care about serious things! Look here's a post where they talk about things I find trivial!"

And we shouldn't say "incel" and give the term legitimacy. Least of all in the same format as the trite "that's not feminism that's just misandry."

_Ultraranger_ · 2025-12-09T18:01:56+00:00

I love how people really don't have the balls to just write "rape" anymore.
Doesn't rape count as sexual assault? Why did she make them separate categories?

lemons7472 · 2025-12-09T15:53:57+00:00

I see men raise the issue for the first 3 sometimes even the 4th in the fact that men do not get ani focus when it comes to being victims of human trafficking.

Also getting divorced and having your stuff taken even if it belonged to you before the marriage, is a issue, why is she acting like that’s petty?

However, commenters like this, simply either don’t pay attention to men bringing these up and will likely response with a “women have it worse, men commit 99% of X”, or will bring up what they deem is men’s “smaller” issues to downplay men’s issues as a whole compared to women’s issues. You could actually do the same in reverse if you really wanted.

AfghanistanIsTaliban · 2025-12-09T18:38:00+00:00

sighs

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The Sexual Victimization of Men in America: New Data Challenge Old Assumptions

(by "new data," the title refers to early-10s, and even then, that didn't stop misandry from going viral in the 4th-wave feminism which was ~~brought to~~ imposed on us during that time)

Abstract:

We assessed 12-month prevalence and incidence data on sexual victimization in 5 federal surveys that the Bureau of Justice Statistics, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation conducted independently in 2010 through 2012. We used these data to examine the prevailing assumption that men rarely experience sexual victimization. We concluded that federal surveys detect a high prevalence of sexual victimization among men—in many circumstances similar to the prevalence found among women. We identified factors that perpetuate misperceptions about men’s sexual victimization: reliance on traditional gender stereotypes, outdated and inconsistent definitions, and methodological sampling biases that exclude inmates. We recommend changes that move beyond regressive gender assumptions, which can harm both women and men.

Study references CDC data which unfairly splits forced intercourse into "rape" and "made to penetrate" despite both cases being criminal and nonconsensual sex

For example, in 2011 the CDC reported results from the National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey (NISVS), one of the most comprehensive surveys of sexual victimization conducted in the United States to date. The survey found that men and women had a similar prevalence of nonconsensual sex in the previous 12 months (1.270 million women and 1.267 million men).5 This remarkable finding challenges stereotypical assumptions about the gender of victims of sexual violence. However unintentionally, the CDC’s publications and the media coverage that followed instead highlighted female sexual victimization, reinforcing public perceptions that sexual victimization is primarily a women’s issue.

so if you count "made to penetrate" as a form of rape, then men and women are victimized in roughly equal number under this definition. Furthermore, it reveals systemic discrimination in the criminal justice system when compared to the lopsided crime statistics.

also according to CDC data, 79% of men who were "made to penetrate" reported female perps.

Sexual Violence:

79% of male victims of being made to penetrate reported only female perpetrators.

82% of male victims of sexual coercion reported only female perpetrators.

53% of male victims of unwanted sexual contact reported only female perpetrators.

48% of male victims of lifetime non-contact unwanted sexual experiences reported only male perpetrators.

Stalking

43% of male victims reported being stalked by only male perpetrators.

8% of male victims reported being stalked by both male and female perpetrators.

Intimate partner violence:

97% of men who experienced rape, physical violence, or stalking by an intimate partner had only female perpetrators.

even if all male victims were SAed by men, we should be concerned about it in the same way we are concerned about female-on-female SA, no?

also, numbers and science stuff matters. Without that, we would be arguing in circles, see the following:

The gender paradigm in domestic violence research and theory: Part 1—The conflict of theory and data

Abstract:

Feminist theory of intimate violence is critically reviewed in the light of data from numerous incidence studies reporting levels of violence by female perpetrators higher than those reported for males, particularly in younger age samples. A critical analysis of the methodology of these studies is made with particular reference to the Conflict Tactics Scale developed and utilised by Straus and his colleagues. Results show that the gender disparity in injuries from domestic violence is less than originally portrayed by feminist theory. Studies are also reviewed indicating high levels of unilateral intimate violence by females to both males and females. Males appear to report their own victimization less than females do and to not view female violence against them as a crime. Hence, they differentially under-report being victimized by partners on crime victim surveys. It is concluded that feminist theory is contradicted by these findings and that the call for “qualitative” studies by feminists is really a means of avoiding this conclusion. A case is made for a paradigm having developed amongst family violence activists and researchers that precludes the notion of female violence, trivializes injuries to males and maintains a monolithic view of a complex social problem.

TLDR: male victims of rape and DV exist and they are much more common than these people want you to think

Chemical_Series6082 · 2025-12-09T19:56:13+00:00

Don’t forget:

she has a right to reproductive self-determination, society and the government deny men the right to reproductive self determination.

nikdahl · 2025-12-09T20:49:51+00:00

Don’t use incel as a pejorative. That is outright bigotry.

Due-Permission1353 · 2025-12-09T17:31:31+00:00

In Bihar (mainly) and its surrounding states in India, thousands of men every year are kidnapped and forcefully married, it's called pakadua vivah, and these are just the reported cases, most of cases would be not reported due to fear of violence from local gangs who organize these kidnappings, and false accusations of dowry from bride and her family. Bihar is the most backward state of India, it also has a huge child marriage issue (which is not really a gendered issue from what I've read, granted that's due to legal age of marriage for men being 21 while that of women being 18, hence nearly equal number of men and women being married before legal age)

Glittering_Air_8672 · 2025-12-10T18:37:12+00:00

Prejudice isnt defined by how much harm people cause. Misogyny isnt morally worse than misandry just because some misogynists act violently.

Nicherix · 2026-05-18T02:33:41+00:00

In other words, MRAs talk about things that actually happen really often while feminists cherrypick the most gruesome cases to frighten and impress their audience yet offering no solution at all.

Title	Response to a post mocking men talking about their issues
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Date	December 9, 2025 12:18 PM UTC (8 months ago)
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