Does a man's value really go up as he ages?

EntertainmentNeat592 · 2021-07-08T21:12:50+00:00

It is a false hope because attractiveness is multi-dimensional and often depends on the perceiver. RP think women primary value money and do not care much about youth, health, compatibility etc. That’s just dumb. Women are not monolith and we care about a lot of factors other than money when choosing a partner. People in general tend to be attracted to similarities and that is why most people date and marry within their own demographic (age, social status and religion).

For most young women the age “gap” itself is a deal breaker. I can admire a 40 something good looking wealthy men but he would be my dad’s age and I am not attracted to men my dad’s age.

Honestly, the hope RP is selling to men is going to create a whole generation of men who are gonna have midlife crisis.

zoemondo · 2021-07-08T22:55:15+00:00

I just find it ironic that redpill preaches that men have no value until they are older, and yet young redpilled dudes bitch and complain that they don't have any value as a young man.

Like, why the fuck would you promote an idea that deeply upsets you?

Venustarr_777 · 2021-07-08T23:10:03+00:00

No. All humans have (all living things) have value. Money/looks are NOT of value since they are temporary and they can be taken at any moment. An egomaniac would believe otherwise.

teamdeathmatch1787 · 2021-07-09T03:48:48+00:00

Yes and no. I think older is attractive to a certain extent because stability is attractive. I’ve found that it’s just significantly harder to find men my age who are what I’m looking for. I’m not even talking about money; goals, values, emotional intelligence, the whole lot. I’ve dated a few guys my age who possess that but it’s easier when you widen that age range.

But again, that’s not strictly an age/money thing. At almost 20, I have no desire to date a 30 or 40 year old (did that once and found that men that old that are willing to date teenagers are the opposite of stable). I’ve found the most success with dates/partners my age/a few years older. However, I wouldn’t be opposed to dating younger men if they met the same standards. I just won’t currently because I don’t really want to date minors.

dm_if_you_femboy · 2021-07-09T10:15:15+00:00

It's just cope

The wall is cope too

WestAtmosphere · 2021-07-12T05:55:14+00:00

I'd say for the vast majority like 95% of women under 30, a man like 5+ years older than them is not appealing. For the few that do dabble in huge age gap relationships many are abusive relationships where the young woman has experienced some kind of trauma or lack of family support. There may be a SMALL percent of women who are content in like a 10 year age gap relationship, but these situations are rare.

I have never known any of my female friends wanting to date men 5+ yrs older than them. Money/status/stability wouldn't sway them either into these scenarios. So chances of this happening for a man are very slim, I mean like say a 40+ y/o getting with an under 30. Most women want a partner that is similar in age to them.

Sorry but this is the truth coming from a young woman who has been around a lot of other young women. These guys who hit on young women or want to get with them is what we define as creeper territory.

ThrowDizzleMahNizzle · 2021-07-09T16:05:10+00:00

For starters, everyone's "value" - including women's - SHOULD go up as they get older if you're determining it based on emotional, financial and mental stability. The "value" a lot of these men are talking about is mostly financial, and sure, your value does go up....if you're seeking gold diggers or women who are going to use you for your money and finances. But even then? The amount of men that behave like they're swatting away 25 year old diggers with their $75k a year is pretty laughable. Are all men 35+ really out here earning $150k/year with the ability to financially support a family?

As for sexually? LAUGHABLE. There is nothing, and I mean NOTHING, quite like the rock hard penis and endless stamina of a guy in his 20s. A guy in his 20s can go multiple rounds - in fact, they can keep you up all night without a viagra. A guy in his 20s, specifically his late 20s, will know how to have awesome sex. A lot of men are under this impression that they'll suddenly be sexual experts by virtue of hitting their 30s, and that is not true at all. By your mid to late 20s, your sexual skills are more less defined and at their peak because you are also at your peak physically. This goes for both men AND women. If I'm looking for a romp in the sheets that doesn't mean much, I will choose a 20 something year old over a 40 year old, hands down. After 35, things in the downstairs department start to have failures and in terms of stamina, it's just not the same.

This isn't to say I don't like sex with people my age or older - the one thing men who are older should ideally provide is improved emotional intelligence but if you're actively thinking that you have improved "value" due to being middle-aged, you're not winning in that dept.

Finally, a lot of guys adopt this mentality and then hit the bars and dating apps, intentionally seeking women 15 or 20 years younger than they are. In my 20s and early 30s, I (amongst my friends) considered these guys creepy. I still find it weird if a man in his 50s tries to hit on me. It is one thing if I meet someone who is awesome and interesting, and an age gap occurs or is coincidental - another if he's actively trying to hit on women with significant age difference consistently.

Xx_SwordWords_xX · 2021-07-08T19:52:55+00:00

Young women are attracted to stability, and older men just seem to have that in spades compared to younger men (money is only one factor in this). Older men taking advantage of this natural inclination of naive young women, isn't exactly cool. I personally have always loved the guideline: divide your age in half and add 7 years, to determine the youngest age you should be dating.

With that said, my husband of 16 years has definitely improved in all ways with age, including looks; however, he will be the first to tell you that it was all by my direction that these things improved in the first place. Women often spend our best years giving to a man to help him "grow", only to have them turn around and start to think they can upgrade us for a younger model (who will only reap the benefits of our hard work).

I babbled, but you asked... And here we are. ✌️

Govt_Bird_Drone · 2021-07-08T20:21:18+00:00

Men do tend to reach the peak of their attractiveness a bit later than women, but the idea that men in their 40s are desirable to young women in their "prime" is mostly false. Yes they may be wealthier, but in a world where women can provide for themselves this doesn't necessarily make them more attractive. As far as looks go, men are most attractive from their mid-twenties to their mid-thirties. Still, most people tend to have partners of similar age. I think the average age gap in most of the US and Europe is just a couple of years. Relationships with a much larger age gap are uncommon.

SnooMachines7712 · 2021-07-09T17:24:21+00:00

Better looking not necessarily,more money maybe but not always.

Have to think too attention, enthusiasm, fidelity those are all big turn ons and they are seldom displayed by red pill men

daydreaming-g · 2021-07-09T09:38:49+00:00

Studies show that woman prefer men who are around 5 years older than her. When I hear woman prefer men who can provide I think about woman in very dire situations like mail order brides.

jaredhasarrived · 2021-07-09T10:57:15+00:00

It's very simplistic to say that it's all based on a man's age. Then again... the idea of RP is all too simplistic lol

HarshTruth69 · 2021-07-09T16:12:59+00:00

Yes and no but mostly no women value attractiveness even more than men ( some ) men have an abundance mindset while women have an abundance reality

CuriosCara · 2021-07-09T16:24:29+00:00

Ok so I see these comments there up and I am like neither of you is right. Every extremist as RP or women's fariytales ALWAYS will be wrong, it's how life works. First of all, you asked wrong question. I would answer to your question. No, it's not true. However, you need to remember that women are highly attracted to safety and stability. So if you as a 20ish guy have it you will win over 30ish obviously. Clue is men don't born with wealth and experience, so you gain it over a time. If 20ish homie will play games, and you during this will work for your success then in your 30ish you will win over your younger fellas. Age as a number don't give you power, it's about what you will do with your time. I hope you understand.

NdN124 · 2021-07-09T19:58:57+00:00

What is "value" anyway? Is it maturity, wealth, social status, wisdom or what? I've known older men that had none of the above or mixtures thereof. TRP coaches tend to have a very generalized non individualized approach. They try to paint every man's situation to be the same. It's much easier to draw conclusions about things in life when you don't have to actually analyze your situation.

SilentEngineering638 · 2021-07-10T13:58:53+00:00

Try losing your hair lol

xaviorbuilder02 · 2021-07-11T06:43:38+00:00

If the woman only values money then probably. But obviously his looks will start to deteriorate and he won’t have much in common with younger women.

ProfessionalSilent80 · 2021-07-12T09:43:47+00:00

If by older you mean 30's then yes. The red pill appeals to young boys who are still in those early awkward phases of life. Most people, men or women get more stable in their 30's and become more attractive.

Cool_Breath1182 · 2021-07-14T20:08:26+00:00

I look better and more rugged and have more success dating now in my late 20s than I did as a teenager 18-19. I’m dating one 21 year old but she’s the exception not the rule, and it’s not a 20 year age gap like the red pill promotes. The other two I’m seeing are 26 so only a few years. But I did definitely attract more women as I matured, but frankly maturity is important, you want to be with someone at your maturity level. I enjoy my time more with one of the 26 year olds than the 21 year old who is basically a naive impulsive college girl(there’s nothing wrong with that mind you, it’s natural human psychological development.)

opistrue · 2021-07-10T21:59:25+00:00

I does not, unless you workyour ass off

I used to believe this tale but I had to face the ruthless reality when I make 3-times the national average at the age of 31 and young hot girls still dont see me.

First I have to spend a lot of money and time on braces, and getting ripped in the gym, THEN I might be worthy to these young desirable girls.

I would be around 35-36 then.

Others have access to these girls our of their sheer genetics starting at a very young age and I have to work DECADES for the same.

Title	Does a man's value really go up as he ages?
Author	spankyourkopita
Upvotes	7
Comments	37
Date	July 8, 2021 7:42 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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