I constantly cycle between incel and red pill ideology

AssistTemporary8422 · 2025-03-01T06:23:47+00:00

Are you actually sure you are ugly? Or do you have body dysmorphia like half the people who call themselves ugly? The truth is that both self-improvement and looks can have a big impact on dating and a bit of both are ideal. Don't need to be perfect though.

VisceralSardonic · 2025-03-01T07:51:10+00:00

The fact is, both are different attempts at providing one big magical, Simple Answer™️ that describes the whole world with a few universal rules. It’s also exactly why neither of them actually rings very true when you apply them to the real world.

I say this compassionately, but for your own sake- Stop trying to read enough content and buy into enough “unpopular truths” to find the answer. Maybe the fact that neither philosophy is landing right is a good sign for you. You’re seeing that each has flaws and exceptions, just like literally every philosophy out there. We’ve been trying to find an easy answer since before religion was first invented, but there’s a reason that we’re still arguing about it. There’s no easy answer that makes it all easy and painless. You just have to live your life and make sense of it all in pieces.

Do you have a hobby or something you want to try? Can you join an art class, gaming group, birdwatching group, something? You need to do something that puts you around people in person and stop measuring your likability by your most self-hating, isolated moments. Go and do something you enjoy and don’t try to game women, hate yourself into a better version of yourself, or measure how valuable you are through rejections that you haven’t even gotten yet.

If you find a reason to interact with people that’s not trying to win the interaction itself, you’ll see the literal billions of exceptions to redpill “truths” out there, find yourself having more real, natural interactions, and make genuine connections with people. Pills aren’t real. Go find people to connect with, a reason to connect with them, and connect.

lil_kleintje · 2025-03-01T11:17:44+00:00

They are based on extreme simplifications, manufacture mass despair&outrage and are exploited for grifting - be smarter than that? I just finished listening to Behind the Bastards podcast about Andrew Tate: Robert Evans pulls apart the entire fucked up thing beautifully,

Personal_Dirt3089 · 2025-03-01T20:54:03+00:00

if you were the ugliest guy alive and you smelled like a thousand dead fish compressed in a small area together, neither redpill nor incel would do anything for you except work to make you more depressed and dependent, coming back for more.

xvszero · 2025-03-01T06:45:44+00:00

Why would you take any pills?

rbkforrestr · 2025-03-01T13:20:07+00:00

You don’t need to take any pills at all, there’s absolutely no reason to subscribe to extreme ideologies like that. Both are wildly isolating.

Self improvement goes a long way re: confidence and mental health and you shouldn’t look at that point as ‘red pill’ - it’s widely accepted and practiced.

Dingus1210 · 2025-03-01T16:50:56+00:00

Try having original thoughts. Stop focusing on how you think people see you, and try improving yourself to be more appealing to YOU. Because if you keep going down that path you’re just gonna end up a hollowed out version of a human and you won’t even recognize who you are anymore. For god sakes get off the internet for a little while and go to a concert, a group outing, go have dinner with some friends. If you’re constantly thinking about “incel” and “redpill” you’re poisoning yourself.

sustaining_faith · 2025-03-02T01:02:56+00:00

Why does everyone think they are ugly? I’m serious, what is actually happening :((

featherblackjack · 2025-03-02T10:05:08+00:00

Get you that therapy pill, brother. Learn yourself so nobody else can tell you what you are. Learn compassion and empathy, particularly towards yourself, and it will come more naturally for others. Live from the inside out, don't take everyone's views as your new gospel.

This sounds like a crappy self help book. But seriously. You need help and guidance. I was a lonely, abused, neglected nerd too. Nobody taught me how to do a damn thing when I left home. I realized pretty quick I didn't want to live that way. Found a talk therapist, not a great one but she was a start, and started telling her my story.

Lumpy_Secret_6359 · 2025-03-02T13:32:12+00:00

You have one life. Are you gonna let fear dictate it

No_Passage9631 · 2025-03-27T04:40:05+00:00

If a girl loved you and you still hated yourself, would you be happy? Just improve on what you can improve for yourself. I am a lesbian and I focused too much on finding a girlfriend in my early 20s, I wasted so much time I could have spent focusing on myself - getting an education, getting a better job, building myself up. I regret those times I had wasted. It sounds cliche but once I started focusing on myself, eveything fell into place. It will sound harsh but I have faced this too (as a woman who dates women) and I realized a lot of people do not want someone who isn't self-reliant. It doesn't mean you should be rich, just someone who seems to have themselves together. Have goals and original ideas, thats the first step to having something meaningful to talk about when trying to dating. Redpill content creators tend to sell you "goals and ideas" but no one wants to listen to something that's obviously parroted from a podcast - let alone someone you're on a date with.

Title	I constantly cycle between incel and red pill ideology
Author	Riderman43
Upvotes	7
Comments	14
Date	March 1, 2025 6:20 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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