Is this the support group?

mieplacemuzica · 2020-07-17T21:54:55+00:00

maybe some time without internet would help? considering that their points are awful and really don't hold any water, some time without hearing them could possibly help him see the alt-right's faulty logic. try and educate him. encourage him to have a more diverse friend group (usually the alt-right prevents it's members from having healthy interactions with outsiders).

while usually people grow out of this stuff, I don't know if it's worth the shot; spaces like that only make them more angry and miserable.

I'm no expert, but I hope this might be useful. hope it gets better.

SaltyMind · 2020-07-17T21:56:00+00:00

Of course I dont know the exact details, but sounds like he's searching for his "meaning of life" Questions like, who am I, what do I want with my life, how do I see the future for myself.

He will probably find his way and come to his senses in his twenties, but it's hard for you to have some influence on that right now. His friends on the internet have far more influence now he's open to new and exiting ideas. That's why he talks about it, without even realising he's hurting you.

Maybe there's an older male relative or family friend he can talk to and discuss his ideas with? In my opinion young boys need a father figure, especially during puberty.

From my experience, the hardest thing in raising kids is letting them find their way and take a step back when they venture into the world.

I wish you wisdom and patience, you'll both need it.

WatchOutItsAFeminist · 2020-07-17T23:14:31+00:00

Can you get him into counseling? Even group therapy might help so he can find positive representations of masculinity.

AccoyZemni · 2020-07-17T23:35:17+00:00

If he starts displaying this behavior openly to strangers and friends then he needs to get some sort of counseling or therapy . The type of mindset he is developing is going to be toxic for him and especially for the women that are around him. He old is he?

JustADoughnut · 2020-07-17T23:06:30+00:00

Definitely check out and cross-post on r/menslib

Jack0fDiamonds · 2020-07-18T03:08:40+00:00

He's angry at something and he's expressing it to you indirectly. Talk to him and try to hear his side, ask him how he knows and why he believes in what he says. continue the conversation, and go from there.

In generalTRP is very heavily conservative-there's a lot of bullshit to wade through and if you're not experienced enough to differentiate between alt-right rhetoric and actual information-you can get stuck in a lot of stupidity.

Hawanja · 2020-07-18T00:09:56+00:00

Chances are it's infected his friend group also, you may discreetly want to check them out, talk to their parents, etc.

The good news it's most likely a fad/phase. One thing you can do is to try and associate him with more minorities. Go out to eat Mexican food (hard during a pandemic,) listen to diverse music, voices, buy some books and leave them around, etc.

Also, don't be afraid to debate him. If you hear him spout some b.s. take it on and show him the real truth, but in a positive way. This may even involve attacking the alt-right ideas from a conservative perspective as well. Nothing like turning his predeliction against collectivist thought against how racism ignores the individual.

Last thing you want to do is approach it from a "punishment" angle, because that will alienate him. If he associates the alt-right with normal teenage rebellion then he'll just embrace it. It's better to have a "look how stupid these nazis are" kinda thing. There's a subreddit called r/beholdthemasterrace which may come in handy. Ultimately your children look up to you whether they admit it or not, so if he thinks that you think these people are complete morons without you having to say it that might steer him away from them.

Also, encourage him to get a girlfriend. Seriously. A lot of this shit will go away if he thinks his girl is going to dump him over it.

Good luck.

Walks_talks · 2020-07-18T05:16:39+00:00

I feel for you. The red pill cannon actually states all women in a man’s life (including you Mom) are active in his oppression and he needs to combat them to be a man. What a cynical world view to promote! All you can do is continue to be the woman/mother you want to be in spite of the challenges you face. This will require some self protection, boundaries, and possibly your own counselling/therapy or at least supportive friends who can take a neutral stance in the matter. An approach to your son that allows you to keep the door open to support him while resisting the degrading messages directed at you is the best way I can see to show him that women are neither weak and pitiful or exploitive and fearsome (or both).

mirzabaigofficial · 2020-07-17T21:37:55+00:00

I think you have to let him go through it. He’s going through realizations and becoming aware of things. You can’t unknow something or close your eyes to it once awake. He’ll end up being a new man depending on the direction of the rabbit hole he goes through. Really not much you can do in my opinion.

Angel_TheQueenBitch · 2020-07-17T23:57:57+00:00

How old is he exactly, and how does he spend most of his time?

alicemaner · 2020-07-18T06:01:11+00:00

Not sure if this will help but I'd recommend you watch and also try to show your son the following videos that have been helpful for me. I would also look up ways to get someone into therapy when they are less willing.

How to Radicalize a Normie - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P55t6eryY3g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSH5EY-W5oM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69obN625Fjs

superluminary · 2020-07-18T14:33:16+00:00

I could be wrong here, but it sounds very like he’s looking for a definition of what it means to be a man. Perhaps he’s looking for an identity and a way to be.

Role models are really important for a young man, and perhaps he’s found some bad ones.

2020-07-19T23:48:55+00:00

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Moldy_Gecko · 2020-07-20T04:38:16+00:00

Honestly, Things like RP is sometimes a step a man has to take to find the right center. If you raised him right, with the ability for empathy and critical thinking... he'll come around and find good middle ground. That's the problem with so many young people finding TRP before they've had any life experience. I saw elsewhere that he seems to have some good relative role models atm and I would let that evolve. Men need men to learn how to be men. He'll learn from them and when he attempts to say something that is on the extremes of TRP, they will likely set him straight. The only thing that could be an issue is that the Mechanical field, like many masculine fields, is the locker room talk which reiterates a lot of what TRP believes anyway.

absolutebeginners · 2020-07-17T22:03:28+00:00

Have you tried anything? What is he on about exactly?

MrObviousTalks · 2020-07-17T22:21:39+00:00

"I'm really not trying to make him into a substitute husband."

If you have to say this you are.

Title	Is this the support group?
Author	MommysPills
Upvotes	87
Comments	43
Date	July 17, 2020 9:29 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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