This is just an observation that I am opening up to discussion. Something I have noticed in the few months I have frequented this space is that many questions that are asked in genuinely good faith get met with really condescending responses or straight up hostile ones. I understand we have a problem of baiters occasionally, but it really plays into their game, or worse, steers people away from getting off the redpill.

Say a kid is insecure about his height. All through highschool the girls he has liked have consistently gone for guys taller than him. Right so he is working off of the confirmation bias of his own anecdotes. He gets into the redpill space because, as we can honestly say, the role models for young dudes right now are not great. So the kid fucks around with that shit for a year or two, then starts to get tired of it for whatever reason. Lot of guys have different come to Jesus moments when it comes to the redpill. He may genuinely come to a subreddit like this and ask the question, “Hey, why was it that I felt discriminated based on my height?” In perfectly good faith.

Some typical responses he might get from here will straight up invalidate his experience. He may end up feeling like he is being gaslighted about the whole thing. Saying stuff like “Oh my friends would totally date short guys” is just throwing an anecdote at his own anecdote.

The goal here needs to be factual evidence mixed with empathy. With the guys I have talked out of the redpill in my own life, most of those conversations were just me listening and empathizing with their situation. The reason people like Hamza get to these guys is because they make it SOUND like they are empathizing with them.

This does not mean we have to tolerate blatant bad faith sexism. But guess what? Redpill gives some of these dudes some fucked up mental schemas that need to be deconstructed with care.

This is why I believe Dr. K’s video about the redpill is perhaps the magnum opis of redpill detox. It was the final nail in the coffin for me, and it was because of the mix of factual evidence and empathy.

That’s my ramble. Take it as you will. I will continue to work on detoxing redpillers in my own life, but as it stands, this is not a sub I would direct them towards quite yet.