True thoughts about nofap?

friedchicken_51 · 2023-01-05T03:50:57+00:00

I (m21) tried it in 2021 and went 19 days. I personally learned a lot from it. I think the main thing about no fap is the porn aspect of it.

The act of fapping isn’t all that bad. It taught me more self discipline and I really did change a lot socially as a person. People have different outlooks and outcomes from it. I recommend just trying it.

iostefini · 2023-01-05T03:39:13+00:00

My view is that it's probably great for some people, and not healthy at all for other people. You probably won't do any physical harm by abstaining for a while, but the mindset can be harmful if you buy into it too much.

If you're not someone who struggles with unhealthy levels of masturbation, then learning that masturbation is "bad" is just going to create guilt and limit your sexuality. It will make it less pleasurable for you with no real benefit. Also, libido is partly related to how much sexual activity is happening - no masturbation and no sex will mean less libido. For some people this is a desirable outcome, but it can be very emotionally unhealthy to try to train yourself out of enjoying physical pleasure - especially when you later get into a relationship and you want to flip the switch and start enjoying it again with your partner. Bodies don't typically work like that. If you've spent years thinking of arousal as something to be suppressed and rejected, when you want to be aroused for your partner your body/mind is not going to suddenly be fine with it.

So with all of that in mind, there's no harm in trying out nofap short-term. A month or two, just to see what it's like, is probably harmless. And it's always good to reflect on the role masturbation and sexuality is playing in your life and think about how you want to manage that for the future. Just don't start trying to erase your sexuality or cut it out entirely, because that is both unhealthy and impossible.

FWIW I personally would never do something like nofap because sex and masturbation are crucial for my mental health, but I know not everyone is like me. Trying stuff out is okay, but make sure you regularly take time to stop and reflect on how it's making you feel and how it's impacting your life, then decide if you want to continue or not.

fathergoose77 · 2023-01-05T03:03:11+00:00

What is supposed to be true about nofap? What are you expecting to happen?

Xx_SwordWords_xX · 2023-01-05T05:48:36+00:00

Porn really does affect your brain negatively; quitting should enable you to live in the real world, enjoy real women and real dopamine.

NoFap will not bring you any more or less opportunities than you already have, for a fulfilling and pornfree life; but if you remain a passive victim of your own life and circumstances, feeling entitled, while waiting for the universe to "magically" hand you something (just because you followed some ideology), you'd be sadly mislead.

You still have to take accountability and actions to make yourself and your own life better, which the dopamine detox of NoFap can help with.

Stop looking for some secret code or handbook of steps to take, to get what you want. Life doesn't work like that at all. Life is full of grey and nuances. You'd be best to simply concentrate on being the best version of yourself you can be (including mentally stable), and then look for another real and flawed human being, who is also doing the best they can with themselves.

Nightchanger · 2023-01-05T11:21:43+00:00

NoPorn is more important.

NoFap is not stable due to the amount of material we have acess to without effort that can debautcher a simple leisure.

Pomeranian111 · 2023-01-05T02:06:55+00:00

[M24]

Last year attempted nofap, at least the variant that said no masturbation. Could only make it to 21 days before I felt like going crazy. Your libido is a huge factor in abstaining and the enjoyment of it. Personally find the idea Men have these "Secret juices," misogynistic that only guys have this "Superpower," where it's only a gift men have that women don't.

Feels like a cope to try and give power back to men, totally get cutting out porn though.

BreezyXV · 2023-01-06T00:40:55+00:00

Despite what all these comments say, noFap has been one of the most beneficial practices that I have integrated into my life. For about three years of my life I was addicted to PMO, not being able to stop myself from jerking off 2 to 3 times a day. About two years into it, after I had had enough of feeling like a piece of shit and wasting my time, like you right now I was curious about masturbation and researched into its effects. Like the comments say below, they insisted that porn was the problem, and that masturbation was completely normal and healthy. So, I listened, and for another year I masturbated without porn. Although an improvement, and I agree that porn is terrible as well, that was not the crux of my problem with masturbation. You see, during this period of time with my addiction I had develop ADHD like symptoms, I couldn't focus or sit still and I shit you not, I lost the ability to READ due to the amount of brain fog I had. It wasn't until this summer that I started to experience with noFap and had multiple 30+ day streaks, during which my quality of life improved to a point to where it had never reached before. I could read again, and focus for longer then 10 seconds, my social anxiety, although not completely dissipated, reduced dramatically. All this is to say, that people on the internet are going to give you answers to your question based off their own biased experiences, like I have done just now, but I HIGHLY encourage you to stick with it and see for YOURSELF how it improves your life. It wasn't easy and I still fuck up with it sometimes, but when you have develop the self-discipline to not immediately satiate your every desire, you achieve a level of self-mastery over yourself that gives you a sort of confidence and feeling that you are in control.

Also, I am 19 like you and still figuring things out, and it certainly won't solve all your problems, but for me it was a good start.

Good luck to you.

Upp- · 2023-01-07T02:09:08+00:00

Imma try to make this as simple as possible.

porn is bad for you brain, so why watch it.

If you are masturbating, 7/10 chances are you have no partner.

So hopefully while you aren't fapping, you would eventually go through the thought process of.

"damn, beating was fun, but since I don't do that anymore, maybe I'll try talking to some girls and get to know them." (hopefully porn didn't distort your image of women).

Say you get to talk to a girl and you spend time with her. When you get free time from life, the thoughts would be." I have free time, maybe I can try something new".

That is my understanding of no fap.

SweelFor- · 2023-01-05T13:21:49+00:00

Please show the evidence that not masturbating leads to the effects that NoFap claims it does

throwaway-sadist · 2023-01-05T06:20:24+00:00

I’m currently doing NoFap. I thought this was the NoFap subreddit at first.

Not everything people say about NoFap will be legit, or apply to everyone. Some people are legitimately addicted to porn/masturbating and quitting can be good for them. NoFap might give you more time you would have otherwise spent masturbating. The things some people do to cope with masturbating can be productive. I sometimes feel like I’m more passionate when I feel “pent up”. Ultimately I don’t think I’m doing NoFap for the same reasons most are. I do like having more time on my hands, which is why I practice strict time management when I’m not burnt out or taking time off. But extra time wasn’t what motivated me to start NoFap. It was just a bonus. I don’t care about becoming more alpha or getting a girlfriend (that’s what I lot of people on the subreddit seem to care about if they aren’t MGTOW).

I’m doing NoFap because I’m fucked in the head. I’m sadistic, and not in a sexy way. As far as I know, I have always been like this, before I even knew what sex was or saw any porn. There has been no thought too depraved for me to get off to and my empathy/compassion/morals all turn off when I’m masturbating. I used to think masturbating was “getting it out of my system” but there’s no such thing as getting a repeatable behavior out of one’s system, or getting rid of a thought by thinking about it more. It becomes a habit and takes over more of your life. You start to think different, and see people a different way. I think most people underestimate how easily suggested they are by their own thoughts. Your fantasies are a part of you and will affect you. They become a physical part of your brain. They don’t just go away when it’s inconvenient for them to be there.

There are people who can masturbate and watch porn in a healthy way. There are people who can be kinky in a healthy way. But I think the thoughts I have while masturbating are too much for me to handle. I wish I had no libido.

I would think about why you wanted to start NoFap in the first place and ignore random anecdotes. If you started because you wanted more free time, don’t worry about someone on the NoFap subreddit instantly getting a girlfriend after abstaining from porn for 2 days. Focus on your own shit and don’t get swept up in the hype.

Gilmoregirlin · 2023-01-05T14:31:05+00:00

My ex was addicted to porn and so I explored this community a lot and found a ton of support for women there who are partners of addicts. In my case he had DE from porn use and death grip. If he stopped he could perform fairly normally, otherwise no. He had untreated ADHD and I think the dopamine high had a lot to do with it. I do think porn was the primary problem, but the issue was that he could not MO without the porn. He had to stop entirely. So it was not ever have a functioning sex life and no porn, or porn and never have a functioning sex life.

I think most men can do perfectly fine with watching porn occasionally and maintaining a healthy relationship. But for those who cannot then yes no fap is crucial. The other issue since you are so young is that a lot of young men only have ever had a sexual relationship with porn, so when they do meet a partner and it is nothing like porn they don't know how to behave and can have issues in the bedroom. But otherwise no fap is not necessary for the average man.

If you think you have a problem with porn it's probably best to give stopping a roll and see how that goes. Similar to drinking.

Carloverguy20 · 2023-01-06T23:12:47+00:00

If you have a serious addiction to it than yes nofap is good, but the problem with NoFap is that they make it seem like EVERYBODY has an addiction and it should be outlawed.

There's nothing wrong with fapping, just don't overdo it to a point where you can't get anything done.

As long as your not masturbating to extreme content, you are okay.

WWhiMM · 2023-01-05T05:45:36+00:00

It's probably harmless except that you'll be bad at sex if you never practice. (And maybe a slightly higher rate of prostate cancer?) And you'll have way less orgasms, but maybe that's not important to you.
If you're just obsessed with semen retention (still a little silly, but whatever), that doesn't necessarily preclude masturbating. When I was about your age I came across "The Multi-Orgasmic Man" which is full of it's own unbelievable bullshit... anyway, as I remember it's like a pseudo-spiritual guide to edging, a way more fun way to channel this neuroticism (no offense, I've been there).

Copperstoner · 2023-01-05T11:58:47+00:00

Most of it is not based on science and until that I'll consider it on the same level as believing in star signs or religion. Considering that they don't see cumming during sex as the same thing, which would rob you again of your super powers it's even dumber.

BUT: It can for sure help some people, it just won't bring you all the benefits, which are claimed.

If I personally would start to try something like that I would be horny all the time and way angrier. I would probably be out all night to chase someone, to have sex with, because my libido is that high. So in my case jerking of every other day is the better option.

Anyhow, find out what works for you, but don't let them fool you. Not jerking off doesn't give you some super powers and it won't do much for your testosteron.

Edit: Once you are in stable relation ship, with a women who matches your libido you will stop to fap either way. The thing is: Why should you run around as horny monkey, while you are not in a relationship.

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zyzzspirit · 2023-01-05T11:32:39+00:00

Nofap only helps if you have post orgasmic illness syndrome. Thats why only some men benefit from it. Everyone on the nofap subreddit have POIS and don't know it, they think its normal to get weak and fatigued after fapping

thrownawaytodaysr · 2023-01-05T22:53:48+00:00

NoFap as a practice is great. Self-control and self-regulation are important skill sets. That being said, the community is toxic and even cultish at times and often cite dubious sources as justification for often outlandish beliefs.

I would say that practicing periodic abstinence is a great exercise, especially if you as an individual are prone to self-indulgence. I would broaden the scope beyond simply self-gratification and look to other areas where I over-indulge that are opportunities. Television, video games, food, alcohol, drugs (if relevant), etc.

The promises offered are often outlandish and false. But if you think you have an issue with compulsive behaviour, it's great to test yourself.

gydalf · 2023-01-08T20:27:25+00:00

I had surgery a while back that meant I had to with no choice in the matter, after 3 weeks I was so horny it was unbearable plus every morning I'd wake up to searing pain from the morning wood that I couldn't really do anything about. I ended up succumbing to the urges and felt a lot better afterwards

Title	True thoughts about nofap?
Author	HawkTa1ons
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Date	January 5, 2023 1:43 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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