Interracial dating and avoiding MRAs

asocialsocialite · 2022-03-20T22:54:44+00:00

I'm black.

When a man discusses Kevin Samuels in any way that is remotely positive, you should run.

If the man talks about "Submission" or speaks in the pejorative about his women, you should run.

I say this because not only are they insecure and self hating, 10 times of 10, those men will beat your ass, cheat on you, mentally abuse you, and/or knock you up without marrying you. They are all abusive degenerates, with no exceptions.

hopelesscanary · 2022-03-20T01:15:31+00:00

As an Asian woman that has observed how these men speak in Asian groups, here are my personal observations

these men are often self-hating and had issues dating in their youth, usually pinning it onto their race. Look for resentment towards Asian women and a recent history of dating white women
I think these men often had an ugly duckling phase when they were younger, resulting in them having a less than satisfactory dating life (usually in high school, college). Often they later get into doing gym, masculinity, focusing on career etc which look great on paper. I would ask him about his past dating life and look for signs of ugly duckling syndrome, and if he still feels some sort of way about it.
just like any man that fetishists WOC, look for indicators of him seeing you as a trophy. Does he post photos of you two together to his "online friends" or any forum board, particular Facebook group?
Any talk praising of white women while putting down Asian women or gripes about dating while navigating their Asian culture.
if he is in any groups on Facebook/social media centering asian American experience, look at his comments. Does he immediately judge or trash talk Asian women for dating white men? Does he immediately praise Asian men for "scoring" a white girlfriend? MRAsians often hold a distinct double standard here. He will say he's only calling out "white worship" amongst Asian women when the truth is that he's just mad that Asian women have the means to act on it and he doesn't.
Look for using acronyms like WMAF (white male Asian female) and AMWF (Asian male white female) and such.
Watch for his (Asian male) friends' reactions if you meet them. See if they treat you like a trophy or look at him in an aspirational or approving manner upon seeing you.
A lot of focus on masculinity and improving asian masculinity as a brand. For context, Asian men have been long shafted by how media has depicted them as sex-less nerdy losers. I've noticed a lot of Asian men will congregate and discuss ideas on breaking the stereotype.

This is not inherently a bad thing because Asian men were actually done dirty by media, but MRAsians are often involved in this discourse and twist what could have been a healthy men-supporting-men discussion into tactics for bagging white women to "stick it to the white man and Hollywood".

Due to traditional upbringing, higher rates of education and Asian culture, I find Asian men are better at putting on a gentleman facade so be wary of that. Just like for any other man, look for signs he doesn't truly see you, but only what he wants from you whether it be status, looks or validation.

alpinepunch2021 · 2022-03-20T13:35:23+00:00

On the other hand, I have witnessed Women of Colour fall prey to abusive white men. Other white women wouldn't have touched these losers with a 10ft pole but some of their red flags got lost in translation / were mistaken as cultural and religious differences by WoC.

THIS EXACT THING HAS HAPPENED TO ME FJKDLSFJS literally thought straight up alcoholism in a ZVM I dated for 6 years was normal because I thought it was a white person thing. This person also only ever dated brown ethnic women (I'm south asian, his ex was hispanic, and his ex before that was also south asian) so on some level I wonder if the fact that no woman of his own race ever took an interest in him was a kind of red flag.

fireforestfairy · 2022-03-20T11:11:54+00:00

Lol I actually discovered FDS as some members of Aznidentity shitposted about this sub there. While it's true that negative stereotypes of Asian men exist in the West, a lot of the members of Aznidentity have double standards towards Asian men and women dating outside of their race. They'll label Asian women who date outside their race as "self-hating white worshipers" yet when an Asian guy does the same thing, it's seen as "masculine" and "improving the image of Asian men in the West".

I think some of the users want to date white women as they fantasise about "stealing" white women from white men. The members of Aznidentity even crowdfunded an AMWF (Asian male + white female) porn video to piss of white men with yellow fever. The plot of the porn video was based on a real white Twitch streamer with an Asian boyfriend, and she got really offended when she discovered the video as they created the plot without her permission. The men on Aznidentity like to talk about how they respect white women more than how white men in WMAF (white male + Asian female) relationships respect Asian women but how was this porn video respectful?

And yes, some of the men there are hypocritical. The men on Aznidentity like to shit on white men "sexpatting" in Asia yet they'll talk about how they enjoy living in Asia as "they're popular with the ladies there". The men there are also obsessed with the idea of AMWF hapas being more successful than WMAF hapas to prove how their belief of AMWF being better than WMAF is justified. They'll nitpick famous WMAF hapas or attribute their success to luck, being born into a wealthy family, or whatever while the same argument can be applied to AMWF hapas.

Honestly, I suspect a lot of men on Aznidentity do want a white SO despite how they claim they're not white worshipers. The reason why they hate WMAF so much is because they're bitter at how it's generally easier for Asian women to find a white SO than Asian men. One of the former mods of the Hapas sub (the half Asian equivalent of Aznidentity) even got into some fishy relationship with a Greek vlogger after she showed some interest in him despite how he's married to a Chinese woman.

The other users here have touched on how to spot one of these Asian men. IMO they tend to be very vocal about their obsession with AMWF on the internet and may even talk about it irl so they're not hard to spot.

whenthecagedbirdsing · 2022-03-20T01:17:02+00:00

Thanks for sharing. I am a WOC (non-Asian) and dated an Asian man years ago. He was very threatened by white men and felt like he had to prove that he didn't abide by the stereotype of Asian men. Also while he was with me he would point out Asian women who date white men and say "treason". It was very strange to me that he felt so strongly about this. He was redpilled for sure and would be on reddit a lot. He was narcissistic and emotionally abusive. I would say to look out for some Asian men who constantly degrade Asian women for dating white men or any other ethnic background for that matter. Some Asian men want to use certain WOC as a thing to show off and will never consider marrying you because of how it looks to other people unfortunately. They just like being seen with certain WOC because it may get them cool points from other ethic groups.

fruitpunchsam · 2022-03-20T03:57:03+00:00

For looking at Asian men: ask them what they think of Glenn from The Walking Dead, and if they tell you they think it's so cool that he dated a white girl, get rid of him. Steven Yeun talks about this a bit in his NYT interview if you're curious for his take.

As an Asian woman I simply do not date white men period, in part because I cannot tell them apart visually despite growing up in America and seeing white faces in all my media. I have no issue telling which ones have weird personalities, I just don't feel like dealing with white men more than necessary (e.g., coworkers).

kinkardine · 2022-03-20T15:40:54+00:00

I found my fellow south Asian men have this ingrained idea that all white women are sex maniac pornstar, they are also aware that white women have less social surveillance, like if the guy dates a girl within same race, everyone will know and expect them to be together, but outside race they can just lather, rinse, repeat the cycle of love bombing and then throw the girls in trash. And I would be highly suspicious where their dicks have been, my friends who dated South Asian guys all of them got STDs. Also these men extensively use online platform to cheat, most are either married or fuckboys. They would only marry a girl whom their momma would choose. And marrying white girls usually degrades their social status plus no dowry/financial gain.

As a brown girl, sigh yeah I figured most of the time I am just a different cuisine to try on, so not even thinking of dating unless I know and vet the person for few months/yr before choosing them as a partner.

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Title	Interracial dating and avoiding MRAs
Author	edelbiatch
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Date	March 19, 2022 7:21 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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