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aclu is a criminal hate group

Colombian-mra

May 15, 2020
15 upvotes
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates

https://news.yahoo.com/aclu-sues-betsy-devos-over-194951672.html

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Title aclu is a criminal hate group
Author

Colombian-mra

Upvotes 15
Comments 14
Date May 15, 2020 4:43 AM UTC
(6 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/gk2lu6/aclu_is_a_criminal_hate_group/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/aclu-is-a-criminal-hate-group.1063475
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Comments

[–]a-man-from-earthleft-wing male advocate 14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How can they possibly be against due process rights? That makes no sense.

Oh how the mighty have fallen.

[–]Jakeybaby125 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They think it might take away victims courage to speak out. It's fucking stupid and idiotic.

[–]Tmomp 15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

"This new federal effort to weaken Title IX makes it more difficult for victims of sexual harassment or sexual assault to continue their educations and needlessly comes amid a global pandemic," according to the suit

Not all accusers are victims. To presume an accuser is a victim deprives the accused of due process. It seems many non-victims accused innocent people, apparently mostly (all?) men, which Title IX made worse.

As for the pandemic, what time is better to fix injustices? Is a man's innocence less valuable now?

[–]Oncefa2left-wing male advocate 11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

According to the FBI around 80% of people falsely accused of crimes are men. That includes all crimes, not just sexual assault.

[–]thereslcjg2000left-wing male advocate 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep, and I suspect the number would be even higher for sexual crimes.

[–]istira_balegina 14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This is a great point about define "left" in left wing. No due process is very much a current left wing position while due process is a right wing position for most issues.

So if you're pro due process what does it make you? The whole political alignment is fucked.

[–]functious 10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminist-influenced leftwingers generally support due process for literally every other crime but turn into swivel-eyed, reactionary, law and order Conservatives on this one particular hobby-horse issue because they're too emotionally invested to be objective and too lacking in self-awareness to see that they're being hypocrites because they're simply not used to people on their own side standing up to their bullshit.

[–]Oncefa2left-wing male advocate 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminism itself is very right wing. This is just an example of right wing beliefs making it into the left through feminism.

[–]thereslcjg2000left-wing male advocate 11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

How the fuck have we come to the point as a society where being opposed to due process rights, one of the tenants of pretty much every constitution for the last several centuries, is an acceptable political position?

[–]Egalitarianwhistle 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

It gets worse. Part of the reform explicitly states that the accused now has the right to be told what they have been accused of. (They didn't have that right before.)

[–]Nion_zaNari 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Tenets. Due process rights don't pay rent to constitutions.

[–]ParanoidAgnostic 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If they did, they wouldn't be getting evicted.

[–]joeclark5 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Really sad. The left used to be the ones who cared about wrongful convictions before this Metoo bullshit started.

[–]Lazurlight 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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