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Could we create a Youtube Channel?

July 26, 2021
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I think it's about time that Left Wing Male Advocates branches out of Reddit and Discord and onto Youtube to capture a wider audience.

We need to spread out message, and quickly. We need to let people know the truth about feminism and the current Regressive Left, while at the same time to make it clear that the Right doesn't care about men and will only use them as cannon fodder.

We need to tell people that r/MensRights doesn't properly represent the movement or its ideas, while also warning men about the dangers of r/MensLib.

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[–]iainmf 20 points21 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

We need to tell people that r/MensRights doesn't properly represent the movement or its ideas

I've been telling people this. r/mensrights is a public forum on the internet and, like any open internet forum, can't be assumed to be representative of the movement.

However, it doesn't really matter because our detractors will smear the MRM with whatever works for them politically.

[–]Blauwpetjevalued LWMA contributor 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I wouldn't make criticizing Men's Rights a priority. LWMA is no Judean Front. We may differ sometimes from Men's Rights and other groups within the MRM, but not enough to make it a spearhead, except when they have explicitly deplorable opinions that become widely known. And most 'deplorable opinions' of the MRM that become widely known are made up by feminists. So, the idea is good, but use a channel essentially to make clear your opinions, not your differences with other MRAs.

[–]iainmf 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Explaining that an internet forum is not representative of a movement is not criticising the movement, it criticising the judgment of the person thinking it is representative.

Judging feminism by Tumblr (or whatever the kids are into these days) is equally misguided.

[–]a-man-from-earthleft-wing male advocate 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

(or whatever the kids are into these days)

apparently TikTok

[–]BatemaninAccounting 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I mean OP is also saying r/menslib type places are "bad" and that's a quick way to get any movement eliminated by the general public. I don't have any issues with r/menslib, and I think the people here that do need to look inside themselves about whether they're actually MRAs or not. MRA cannot be done without feminists nor feminist ideology that have done a ton of the work on this socio-political space of rights based on gender expression and identification. Gender Studies are doing awesome work around the world on these issues, and it should include more MRA stuff.

Unfortunately you say you're a MRA nowadays most people think you're a regressive woman-hater because the movement was co-opted by anti-feminist nuts.

[–]peanutbutterjams 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

MRA cannot be done without feminists nor feminist ideology that have done a ton of the work on this socio-political space of rights based on gender expression and identification.

Absolutely false. Men can advocate for men on the philosophical grounds laid out by other men far before feminism ever came into existence.

You act like feminism exists in a vacuum but it's just as enmeshed as every other philosophy. You can't have feminism without the concept of human rights, that people deserve rights in the first place.

Feminism is a subset of humanism.

So why don't feminists ever acknowledge that? Why do they always pretend they ARE humanism, when men have written, created, fought, and died for those ideas? Sounds a lot like cultural appropriation to me. Claiming the victories of others as your own and never mentioning their deeds because it's inconvenient to the feminist narrative.

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[–]a-man-from-earthleft-wing male advocate[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Removed as misinformation

[–]a-man-from-earthleft-wing male advocate 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Anyone can start a YouTube channel. BlueOrange22 already did. TheTinMenBlog started a podcast. We can certainly use more initiatives.

The mod team will not start an official channel tho. We are busy enough as it is, and we are Reddit only. But personal initiatives are encouraged, and will be promoted here, as we do for example with TheTinMenBlog.

[–]celestialtorso 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

i think tiktok is better for that

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