Fashion’s Misandry

Pro_CKM · 2021-06-22T20:51:12+00:00

Isn't this more related to capitalism? Supply and demand.

lalala477 · 2021-06-23T08:28:57+00:00

I find that advertising is misandric L’Oréal “cause you’re worth it” while gillette shits on men, promoting gamma bias

lightning_palm · 2021-06-22T21:44:24+00:00

I'd like to offer another perspective. Since I started 'identifying' as a femboy, I've looked into women's fashion and bought one or another thing. There is just much more choice for women, also in terms of accessories, cosmetics and other niceties to have. Women are kind of expected to have a greater selection of clothes and change more frequently. And there is just more incentive for women to buy more clothes. As a man, I didn't really care about fashion all that much. It's a different market and it's not a fair comparison.

I'm not sure what costs more, but I can definitely tell you that women spend much more for clothing.

I think this is a really bad example of misandry and I hope this sub focuses on actual cases where men are being disadvantaged, of which there are plenty.

Edit: Yeah, it's true that women have more variety of clothing and more intricate designs. But I think our mindset of not letting boys and men to express themselves is to blame for that rather than these stores and companies being misandric. If there is a demand, there will be a supply.

a-man-from-earth · 2021-06-22T22:53:28+00:00

Why do you think this is misandry?

Skirt_Douglas · 2021-06-29T21:49:20+00:00

I think we need to watch the hair trigger on just calling everything that doesn’t favor us “misandry”, it’s just not a very nuanced term, and it is actually kind of bad faith too because it projects ill intent in places that it doesn’t really exist. The reason men have less variety in fashion should be obvious by now if you have spent at least five minutes studying gender roles. Women attract, men chase. This is the world we still live in, that gender role hasn’t really been undermined, so fashion companies have very little reason to believe if they take the financial risk of trying to sell more flamboyant and/or avant-garde style clothing to men, then we will buy into it. We [men] have provided very little evidence that we would buy in to radical clothing designs if they tried to market it to us.

TraditionalTune3067 · 2021-06-23T09:01:48+00:00

I’d like to thank everyone who responded it has changed my thoughts on it even being misandrist. Thank you. S/o to lightning_palm, sweatyadvance, pro_CKM and everyone else who’s replied and educated me.

Interesting-Top-5602 · 2021-06-22T21:34:22+00:00

Ah I don't mind it. I couldnt care less about unimportant things like fashion

BloomingBrains · 2021-06-23T22:33:25+00:00

I think this is a really good example of how evolutionary programming eventually influenced human society. Because in nature, it isn't the man's role to be desired, its his role to do be the one that desires, due to the evolutionary process of females doing the selecting. So there isn't any reason for a man to put much effort into maintaining his appearance. Even when he does (there are obviously higher end things like Armani suits), its a more narrow and utilitarian sense of fashion. The point isn't to allure a partner, its reminiscent of functionality even when its trying to be fancy. Rough, colorless jeans with pockets are more suitable for doing hard work than a soft skirt with a bunch of colors on it that will get ripped up and dirtied very quickly. So its a matter of sexual selection and division of labor.

Over time, I'm sure this influenced our social norms to the point we know men's and women's clothes have to be different even if we don't remember the reasons (if indeed the reasons are even relevant anymore). I've often wondered why it should matter what type of genitals you have if you wear a certain kind of cloth...yet I still think it looks wrong if I see a drag queen or something that isn't passing well. It's an illogical idea built into us, it seems.

I think its logical that, as the need for rough hunter-gather type men declines, that men will become more feminine. And at that point, social norms, and therefore fashion, will probably follow. But how long until that happens is anyone's guess, if ever.

Title	Fashion’s Misandry
Author	TraditionalTune3067
Upvotes	6
Comments	31
Date	June 22, 2021 4:50 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates
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