Have you noticed

LeftWingMaleAdvocates-ModTeam · 2023-12-29T06:47:17+00:00

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Dashing2025 · 2023-12-29T02:37:29+00:00

Yes I have noticed that, though I also see this behavior in progressive people; misandry is not necessarily an inherent progressive or conservative trait.

kuavi · 2023-12-29T04:39:18+00:00

Like liberals don't?

It's a universal problem, come on. You could argue the sexism/misandry presents itself differently of course but both sides treat men as disposable.

If anything, I'd say conservative lip service of men is better than what the average liberal feels about men's health/rights though neither side really gives a shit about men as a group.

Camelsnake · 2023-12-29T02:42:46+00:00

I haven't noticed. Except if it they're super religious maybe? I dunno, I really haven't noticed

White_Immigrant · 2023-12-29T04:12:29+00:00

I mean, define conservative? The far right conservative party in my homeland treat everyone equally fucking terribly, unless you're rich, then they'll shower you with honours.

Karmaze · 2023-12-29T03:31:15+00:00

A lot of the things that are issues are not Left vs. Right issues. A lot of the things are actually Up (hierarchy, identitarian, authoritarian) vs. Down (individualist, pluralist, open and fluid).

It's just that we've been confused because in America (and other places) for so long it's been a Down/Left vs. an Up/Right. Now that we're seeing the rise of Up/Left ideas, it wrecks the whole binary pattern of assumptions. It'll get even more confusing if you ever see a sustained movement on the right towards the Down.

Edit: I'm going to go into a bit more detail and add something to this, I've been thinking about it, and I'd just like to get it out there. Obviously I'm talking about some sort of 2d axis, right? Ideally it would be more complicated than that, but I think it becomes really incomprehensible at that point and makes it difficult. So how do you add more information to that axis that's readable, but still gives you important information?

Vectors.

This theory, if you look at the 4 Quadrant model I put forward above...we're not just dots on the graph. We're actually arrows. And the arrows are pointing in what direction our preferences/priorities lie. Generally speaking, most people are going to point towards the edges they're close to. However, I could see some people being very much moderating in their own beliefs. I'm not one of those people.

The point of all this, is that I do think the politics of someone who is "Facing Left" actually looks substantially different from someone who is "Facing Down", even if theoretically they're on the exact same point on the graph. Same with Up and Right or whatever. And likewise, people of very diverse politics can co-exist as long as they are facing in the same direction.

That's my theory about all this at least.

HedgeRunner · 2023-12-29T01:30:24+00:00

No. I find conservatives generally more nicer especially women. They’re extremely well mannered despite not having Ivy League education.

Akainu14 · 2023-12-29T06:00:59+00:00

Conservative: man up liberal!! bootstraps bootstraps

Progressive: man up chud!! bootstraps bootstraps

Good arguments on both sides /s

Title	Have you noticed
Author	Good_Historian9830
Upvotes	6
Comments	11
Date	December 29, 2023 12:07 AM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates
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