I’ve come across several bad articles from this website but this one may take the cake

Egalitarianwhistle · 2020-01-18T06:32:14+00:00

But the socialization of men is such that even a good man – a supportive man, a respectful man, a trusted man – has within him the potential for violence and harm.

So who is doing this socializing that all men are sleeper cells for the patriarchy? Their mothers? Their predominately female teachers?

Make no mistake: When you use the phrase “not all men” – or otherwise buy into the myth of it – you’re giving yourself and others a pass to continue performing the socially sanctioned violence of “masculinity” without consequence, whether or not that’s your intention.

I just posted about this. Feminists don't care about your intentions. They care about how they feel.

What we’re actually intending to communicate when we say “men are horrible,” for instance, is “the ways in which men are socialized under patriarchy, as well as how that benefits them and disadvantages everyone else, sometimes in violent ways, is horrible.”

Is it their mothers who are socializing them like this? Or the schools? What is the mechanism the Patriarchy uses to twist these innocent blank slates into monsters?

And the social script of patriarchy is one that allows men to benefit at the disadvantage of everyone else.

Homelessness. Suicide. Workplace deaths. Education gap. Circumcision. Lack of domestic violence services. 63% longer sentences for the same crime. How is the author this ignorant? That's female privilege right there, to be a writer and not know any of this stuff because it doesn't affect her.

A well-meaning man offers a woman a compliment at a bar.

...

Such a man isn’t an outright abuser. But his learned entitlement makes him potentially unsafe for women to be around.

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK???

Here’s another example: A well-meaning man, in a conversation with a woman, talks over or mansplains to her without recognizing the behavior...

Please no more. I can't take this...

We hate “slippery slope” arguments, but that’s exactly what this is – a series of sometimes unintentional microaggressions that enables a larger culture of silencing and marginalizing people other than men.

It sounds like she loves the slippery slope argument because she just set a skiing world record for longest logical leap.

3. The Impact of Your Actions Is More Significant Than the Intent

This message is a pillar of SJW/Feminism. Your intent doesn't matter. The feels of your mansplaining victim matter. Once your intention doesn't matter, you are like an empty vessel. You learn not to trust your own conscience but to trust their indoctrination.

I just. This person is more delusional than a Flat-Earther. Sigh. This is depressing. This is condescending. This is demonstrably wrong. Men have it hard by nearly every fucking metric and she wants men to self castrate their own mind so that she feels "safe."

Fuck that. Fuck her. #fuckyourfeminism

thereslcjg2000 · 2020-01-18T06:18:25+00:00

Damn, I hate most of what I've seen from that site with a passion, yet that is by far the worst article I've come across on it. It genuinely has the audacity to claim all men feel entitled over women to a degree, and perform some form of aggressions against the women in their lives. I honestly can't imagine having a worldview that depressing and unhealthy.

Aaod · 2020-01-18T09:48:50+00:00

A lot of feminists and pro-feminists I encounter seem genuinely surprised when I talk about the way that feminism sometimes demonizes male behaviour, male sexuality, and the like. "Where do you get that impression?"

However, this paragraph essentially says that MEN ARE NOT ALLOWED TO FEEL EVEN A SMIDGEN OF INTERNAL DISAPPOINTMENT when they are rejected:

Picture this: A well-meaning man offers a woman a compliment at a bar. He has no sinister motive, and he is – after all – in an appropriate setting for flirting.

When the woman rebuffs him for whatever reason (she’s in a relationship, she’s not into men, she’s just not interested), the man feels snubbed – because he was polite and respectful, but not rewarded for it.

This well-meaning man would probably tell you that he’s not owed a woman’s affection; he knows that. But he still feels hurt that he didn’t get it. And that’s fair. Rejection hurts.

But maybe he believes himself to have approached her in a kind enough way that he should have at least gotten to talk to her a bit. After all, men know that being gentlemanly is the “right” way to “get” women, and therefore expect on some level to be rewarded for that good behavior. But if that sentiment drives some of his disappointment, then that’s a sense of entitlement, however small.

Such a man isn’t an outright abuser. But his learned entitlement makes him potentially unsafe for women to be around. And it’s hard to see that sense of entitlement from the inside, let alone question it or start to break it down.

"Unsafe to be around" because you compliment someone at a bar and you feel a bit hurt when they reject you?

How do people who rail against toxic masculinity and stoicism not see the irony of essentially advocating men repress their emotions to a point where they don't feel disappointed seconds after they are romantically rejected? (And if you fail to be perfectly stoic, you're pretty much on your way to becoming a rapist?)

To anticipate feminist criticism, I am well-aware the text makes a distinction between the regular disappointment of rejection 'That's fair. Rejection hurts' and the added disappointment that the rejection was made after a 'classy' approach (basically: hmm, why didn't she talk to me?) and that it's the second that they object to (they say). However, men more attractive than I have plenty of stories of women flipping out after being rejected and demonstrating entitlement much greater than a small, internal pang of disappointment and a small internal dialog of 'rude' or 'why don't they want me, I'm such a catch?'. Edit: One classic example is the woman who questions a man's sexuality after she is rejected, because clearly she is the living embodiment of the love goddess Aphrodite and any supposedly straight man who rejects her must be a closeted homosexual or asexual?

Sure, people should be able to question that small voice that says 'rude' afterwards. But to single out men for this when it is human behavior that also commonly happens to women approaching men, men approaching men, women approaching women is patently ludicrous, unless you want to make some ridiculous argument that somehow this behavior is "patriarchal entitlement trickling down to everyone else" (a bit like how bell hooks redefines domestic violence to "patriarchal violence" that includes every form of IPV except women bashing men). And to then link an internal sense of momentary frustration to a slippery slope of violence and rape culture is approaching gaslighting territory (as much as I hate that word).

PrincessofPatriarchy · 2020-01-18T07:25:44+00:00

I still don't think it's as bad as the one that said it's cultural appropriation to eat cuisine from different cultures. But this one is indeed the level of cringe, misandry and shallow thinking that permeates that website.

BannanasAreEvil · 2020-01-18T14:57:28+00:00

I don't think I've ever been both so angry and yet so hurt at an article I've read in my entire life. To think a large portion of our society hates us so much that they could write this, claim it to be true and use it as a tool to dismiss our pain and suffering is not only rage inducing but cuts so deep we want to seek out our mothers for support while we curl up in the fetal position.

This writer, feminist, woman; is so hateful and disrespectful that she shouldn't even have a job writing in the first place.

I think we need to make a sticky of articles like this, ones that are blatantly misandric. Articles written/published by feminists that go far beyond "men stop mansplaining" and into full "men are trash, no good men exist" type of content.

We should do this so when people come here and accuse us of being critical of feminism only because we are misogynistic men we can point them to that sticky and show them why this sub exists. We can show them why we disagree with a lot of what todays feminism is about without needing to explain to them; we just have proof of what is being said out there that they can see for themselves.

I feel like I'm going to throw up now, maybe this is what it feels like to have your entire being and soul violated!

Kierran169 · 2020-01-18T08:11:59+00:00

Ah yes gender minorities

Haloisi · 2020-01-18T08:33:39+00:00

That website looks like a lot of hate of people they don't like. The article takes a pinnacle of hating men. What a terrible website.

Title	I’ve come across several bad articles from this website but this one may take the cake
Author	Iaboveall
Upvotes	13
Comments	14
Date	January 18, 2020 6:04 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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