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[–]Night_Nin3465 points466 points467 points 6 years ago (83 children) | Copy Link
I hope VR will soon get so good that I can just leave this shithole and live in my virtual perfect reality...
[–]MuppetMurderer5242 points243 points244 points 6 years ago (68 children) | Copy Link
You ever try to lucid dream? Now that’s some good shit.
[–][deleted] 195 points196 points197 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Ah, the man's mind... the only place where those mythical NAWALT unicorns actually exist.
[–]Uniqueinsult36 points37 points38 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Preach brother.
[–]ajay01_93 points94 points95 points 6 years ago (46 children) | Copy Link
Is that shit for real?? Cause I've read a lot about it but don't know if it actually works or not
[–]novhaku97 points98 points99 points 6 years ago (41 children) | Copy Link
It does. It can be hard to master, but when you manage to do it, it's quite impressive. Although you usually need to go through quite a few rounds of sleep paralysis until you manage to get it right.
[–]QuantumTheories_4264 points65 points66 points 6 years ago (37 children) | Copy Link
Be careful though! Now I've heard that from lucid dreaming too much you can cause yourself sleep paralysis. Which is not a fun experience for many people. Now I could be wrong, but that's what I read anyways.
What I've done is taught myself to check certain things, like a watch or a clock, as time doesn't work properly in dreams. Or my favorite that works a lot for me is to watch for a red bouncing ball. If I see a random red ball bounce in front of me, I automatically tell myself I'm in a dream. Then look around for other signs, or try changing what's going on in my dream by thinking about it. For me personally I have to be careful, if I become far too aware that I know I'm dreaming, my body will wake up. I have to keep a balance of knowing I'm asleep at the back of my mind and then do whatever I want. Fly, drive a GTR, guy stuff lol
[–]SphincteralAperture36 points37 points38 points 6 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
For me it's a red balloon. It can be one, several, or even an entire horizon of them, but after seeing them, something surreal and pretty weird usually follows. The sewers begin talking, massive statues become animate, that sort of thing.
10/10, would recommend.
[–]QuantumTheories_4210 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I remember the one red bouncing ball I saw in my dream. I was sitting at a red light in my car, all of a sudden the odd vehicle driving across the intersection would turn into a red bouncing ball. It would stay the same speed and in its lane, but something felt off. I realized I was dreaming, and woke up.
[–]AnotherRedditLurker_22 points23 points24 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It's all fun and games until you realize that vehicle was a parade float and you just streaked naked through the intersection while screaming "ITS SO REALISTIC!"
[–]QuantumTheories_429 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Now that's how you become viral!
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Instructions unclear. Have become a computer virus.
[–]SimpyMcSimpface2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have no idea what you guys are talking about. Care to enlighten me?
[–]thomal465 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
For me I get confused and angry and scorch earth with my mind... that's how I know I'm dreaming... I turn into the Phoenix on x men
[–]coke_nose0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Have you seen the movie "it" ?
[–]SphincteralAperture0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Sorry I'm replying so late, I completely forgot I had commented this lol.
To answer your question, no I haven't. I will say, though, that any similarities my dreams share with the movie probably end there. My dreams are full of very wild things...
Here are some other things I somewhat consistently dream about: a giant space turtle that is essentially a god, a monster that can turn into many different things but whose true form cannot be perceived by man, paintings coming to life (one of the creepier ones to be honest), physical manifestations of pestilence, an old water well (probably inspired by the movie "The Ring"), and many other things.
Lucid dreaming will take you places, I tell ya.
[–]coke_nose0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think Steven king stole your dreams bro :(
[–]Shogun1100 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Did no one actually catch that 10/10 reference
[–]novhaku8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago* (15 children) | Copy Link
It can happen if you "do it wrong" (trying to stay awake "mentally" while you let your body falls asleep; that's not what you're supposed to do although it's a bit hard to explain without going through it honestly). And it will probably happen in your first tries, which is indeed not funny, having "hallucinations" (which are only part of the dream) while your body is paralized is quite surprising; I remember auditory hallucinations from hard times in my life that were quite something. But you get used to it pretty quickly and start expecting it honestly, it's a funny way to explore your mind, and when you do it right it doesn't happen anymore anyway.
Reality checks are something that depend of the individual a lot since some people will be able to read the same things twice in a dream, will be able to read the time (another common thing that is messed up in dreams) correctly, etc, so you have to find "your own" by thinking about the dreams that you can remember. It personally didn't work for me, the only way I can make it happen is by what they call WILD (wake induced lucid dreams, basically jumping immediatly from falling asleep to being lucid) instead of "becoming aware once during your dream" which tends to cause everything around me to melt like cheese, that I like a lot better anyway since it's more vivid overall, although WILD are the ones that indeed can induce sleep paralysis if you mess up, so it's "better" but there are risks. There's a lot less of them when using reality checks (although it can still happen if you start waking up and stop halfway through; some experiences with that a long time ago before I even knew about LD weren't funny).
But yeah it's a pretty funny thing to do, it won't work every single time but still. And SP becomes a detail after a while and can even be "transformed" into a LD once you manage to get it right, so one shouldn't panic about it otherwise it'll be even more likely to happen; just stay aware that it can happen and if it does, well, you'll know what is going on. It's scary at first but it becomes almost amusing after a while imo.
The point is, the problem with LD is that it depends heavily on how your brain works so one just need to keep trying until he finds what works for him.
[–]QuantumTheories_426 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Well then, me being a stoner and with severe anxiety and depression, I'm guessing I should probably avoid LD as that could cause me severe anxiety attacks. What would you suggest? Probably best for somebody like me to stick to figuring out when I'm dreaming and when I'm not.
Question about LD, can you control them? Like I know your body is paralyzed (asleep), but your conciousness is still active. But can you atleast blink or move your eye lids? If you start seeing scary creatures, etc appear, can you think about a bunch of sexy women and make them appear instead?
[–]novhaku3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I'm guessing your question is about sleep paralysis, not lucid dreaming? (since you can obviously control these ones, that's the point)
You can influence them by calming down, and it can be used as a stepping stone to "jump" into a dream this way by accepting it and trying to "leave your body" this way (this astral projection but without the supernatural crap, basically). So yeah you can control it to an extend after you learn to stay calm during it.
I personally find SP ok after the first time because you know what to expect, so you just have to stay rational, but if you really tend to lose control and aren't confident then maybe you shouldn't; confidence about how you'll react and about what you expect is honestly probably the only thing that matters here, since it's ALL in your head, so not being at ease with it makes it harder (which is the problem with people talking about it as THE most terrifying thing ever, your brain will record it after reading it and turn it into this despite the fact that it can ultimately be a detail, and I'm being generous here). Not panicking because you expect the apocalypse and being confident will make it easy, expecting something horrible will make it horrible, the reason people have bad experience with this is because people usually get them because of something else (sleeping in a bad position, whatever) so they DON'T GET what is happening and since they are panicking, their brain and thus their dream "panic" too. If you expect it, it's less of a problem since you'll panic way less..
Still, if you don't feel confident enough stick to dream induced lucid dream instead, since controlling the whole thing usually requires quite a bit of experience to begin with. If you're just in for the good time and not for exploring your mind overall, it'll be enough until you feel like you can do it.
[–]QuantumTheories_422 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Ya I'm at working and was typing pretty quickly, I did mean SP not LD.
I wouldn't mind trying what you're talking about, do you have any links or steps on what I should do to try this?
[–]novhaku2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I've personally used quite a few sites about it like off the top of my head https://www.luciddreamsociety.com/ (yeah it looks like one of these "buy our book" website but look into the "article" part at the top, that's where the good thing is) and some forums like the forums of www.dreamviews.com . It's been a while, but r/LucidDreaming isn't bad neither from what I can remember, and the acronyms you might not understand are in the sidebar.
[–]QuantumTheories_423 points 6 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Awesome! I would love to learn how to explore this more and be able to fully control my dreams. I don't have friends in real life, so dream land here I come!
P.S. Random fun fact about dreaming I learned a while back. Your mind can't make up faces it has never seen. Therefore everybody you ever see in a dream is somebody you've seen in real life. Could even be some person you walked by in Walmart 10 years ago.
[–]novhaku3 points 6 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
You'll see a lot of weird things if you really get into it and manage to get it right, it can also be an eye-opener about yourself in some ways, that's why psychonautics are fascinating.
Yeah, I've already seen this fact and people disagreeing with it because of their own experiences where they met "faces" that couldn't possibly exist IRL (think impossible hair color or otherthings, etc), well, it's a part of this "we really don't know shit about dreams and about how the brain work" I was talking about, it's a fascinating thing to experience and to read about.
Well from what you explained, im thinking now that if I can get this to work, I may be able to get down to the root cause of my anxiety and may help me to kick its ass!
[–]MuppetMurderer53 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I specifically use sleep paralysis to enter a state of lucid dreaming. To each their own I guess. Sleep paralysis is also not creepy at all for me so yeah that might be why it works specifically for me.
[–]novhaku2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Once you get used to it it's pretty easy to use it to "jump" into the dream yeah, and being freaked out by it only make things even harder. It's the best to get a really "vivid" and stable dream anyway so yeah, and after a while you can just skip the SP part altogether. But yeah your comment is great, a lot of people EXPECT it to be terrible because that's what everyone is saying so it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy for them which scare them away from it.
[–]RamboPotato2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Is there a subreddit for this? This seems pretty intresting and possibly I wanna try it. Thanks.
[–]novhaku2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
There is, it's r/LucidDreaming/
[–]RamboPotato2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
God bless you (if you belive this stuff) Thank you very much.
[–]meiko40000 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Why is everybody mentioning a red ball? Why do you have this in common?
[–]novhaku1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wasn't it an example used in american dad (haven't seen it, but I've read about this thing) where it was used this way, that therefore it got shared to oblivion and entered the subconscious of everyone that has seen about it? It tends to happen a lot with dreaming/lucid dreaming, you get influenced by what you've seen about it beforehand.
[–]Crityo0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Because seeing a red ball is so much better than any other color ball.
[–]GoHurtMyFeelings6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are right. Sleep paralysis is awful. 0/10 would not recommend.
[–]Eric_Cartman-_-6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Which is not a fun experience for many people.
Can vouch first hand on that. Having a nightmare with sleep paralysis is NOT something i look forward to. To have your worst demon about to eat your face off and not being able to move a single muscle of your body. Not fun.
[–]th3ist2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Testing reality with clocks and red balls? Sounds like inception
[–]QuantumTheories_424 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Check it out. If you ever realize that you're in a dream, look at a watch or a clock, then count to 5 and look back. 4 hours may have passed, may have been 2. Clocks and time don't work when you're dreaming. That's what I've read, and I've actually tried it once in my dreams. But for me the clocks were spinning at like 5 times normal rate.
[–]Googlepost2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Don't ever tell your friends about the red bouncy ball thing, I don't even know you and I'm wanting to randomly throw red bouncy balls across your path just to mess with you.
[–]QuantumTheories_420 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Go ahead, I will do a reality check. Lol
[–]TripzeroPandD0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I tried a few years back and couldnt properly train myself to do reality checks. I think it's time I try again. Any tips?
[–]QuantumTheories_422 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just keep trying. When I started trying, it took a good 6 months to do it once. Another half year later I did it again with a longer time before I woke up. Third time was like a year after that I remembered I was dreaming randomly, not even a red ball, nothing seemed right. I started controlling my dream and having fun like changing buildings shapes and that's all I remember.
What's your favourite color and toy/object?
[–]notyetcosmonaut0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sleep paralysis is very rare and only happens when something goes wrong with the body. You can’t do it on purpose. If you ever end up with sleep paralysis it’s very easy to go into a lucid dream. Let’s say you hallucinate some creature, just tell it to take you somewhere like the moon. Doesn’t matter where but it will happen in an instant.
You ever seen a bouncing red ball in real life? That's some inception level shit
[–]PSGGSP-Aus913 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I have been in sleep paralyis before, worst fucking nightmare worth no lucid dreaming, I felt like my spinal cord was axed while I slept...no thanks.
[–]asspop11 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
lmao damn!
[–]ETKDoom0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sleep paralysis...yeh nope. Not going to try to lucid dream.
[–]hakoonamatata94 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's extremely difficult to pull off. The most difficult part Is to stay asleep once you KNOW you are sleeping.
[–]MuppetMurderer52 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah it works. Just have to get yourself into sleep paralysis which is the hardest part. From there you imagine yourself sinking into your bed/recreating your room in your mind. It can be difficult but I’ve personally done it enough to were it’s a bit easier.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's real and fucking incredible. I done it a handful of times by accident, and was almost able to reach lucid state while getting extremely high while laying down and focusing during near sleep.
[–]notyetcosmonaut1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lucid dreaming is real. It’s easy to work towards. No limits to what you can do.
All it takes is to have a journal to record dreams. If you don’t remember a dream you write no dreams recorded. Do that and you are golden.
Write in journal as soon as you wake up or you will forget. OR once you wake up just don’t move and try to recall your dreams before moving.
Extra thing you could do is reality checks. Pretty much anything works. See if your hand has all the fingers and details or throw something up in the air and expect it to stay there or spin a top and expect it to keep spinning.
Sleep paralysis is rare. Only if something goes wrong with the body it may happen.
[–]DevilSweets2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
How can we have more lucid based dreams?
And why are they so quick?
[–]QuantumTheories_429 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Did you know you don't dream the entire time you're asleep. If you say sleep 8 hours a night, you may only have dreamt for about 30min - 2hours.
You have to train yourself. What I do every night before I go to sleep, I tell myself repeatedly to watch for the red bouncing ball. If I see one, I know I'm dreaming and can control my dreams. Google your question and read up more about lucid dreaming. Also google sleep paralysis and read up on it.
[–]Buchwild5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I seriously need to look into that
[–]DevilSweets3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Sleep paralysis huh....
I've experienced that when I was younger.
I was afraid for what felt like five mins, then calm as the shadow figure left.
With my anxiety though, I'd be constantly afraid of it getting worse, that's my fear.
[–]MuppetMurderer54 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Other comment was spot on with how quick the dreams can be. For me specifically if I ever wake up in the middle of the night or I’m super tired before bed I try and throw myself into sleep paralysis. Now I’ve seen other people comment that this is the “wrong” way to do it but it’s what works for me. Once I’m in sleep paralysis I imagine my body sinking into my bed and sort of flipping around, at this point I use the momentum from that visualization (and actual psychical feeling... it’s hard to explain) to launch myself out of my bed, but in my dream. From that point on I know I’m dreaming because I purposefully threw myself into the world.
The other way of lucid dreaming is to catch yourself whenever you have a dream. Making a thing called “reality checks” so much of a habit with your life that you begin to do them in your dream and catch yourself when your dreaming.
[–]Eric_Cartman-_-2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Until u get a horror one with sleep paralysis.
No thank u
[–]MuppetMurderer51 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Doesn’t happen unless you’re a bitch /s
[–]supercullen0041 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Can I be taught lucid dreaming? I just want to experience it. It’s like the portal to another life
So far at least in this thread there has been discussion of two ways of achieving lucid dreaming.
What I do to achieve lucid dreaming is through sleep paralysis. The other method is to form a habit called a “reality check”.
Sleep paralysis method CAN be easier and you’re guaranteed to remember the dream because you are purposefully making yourself lucid dream.
The whole point of sleep paralysis is to fall asleep but still be mentally awake. You’ll know you’ve gotten there when you’re laying down and can’t move your body at all. This can be achieved easily when you’re so tired that you can fall asleep fast, you wake yourself up in the middle of the night and you’re still tired, or when you first wake up and you’re still tired.
I’ve found the best time to practice sleep paralysis is during the day if you’re so tired you need a nap. You need to lay down and stay still but also stay mentally awake. Playing music and focusing on the music can be a good idea, but it’s also a bit distracting. I just turn on a fan for white noise and focus on that.
People say sleep paralysis is “scary” and there are memes about demons haunting you but it’s all bullshit. Just your mind playing tricks so once you’ve hit sleep paralysis and you’re ever scared or want to exit, start breathing irregularly and you’ll wake up pretty fast (I’m talking hard and heavy breaths).
You can look up some guides online to get to it better than I can explain it.
Once you get to sleep paralysis you’re going to want to visualize yourself physically sinking into your bed (or wherever you are attempting this I’ll just say bed as it’s where I do it) it’ll feel weird, because you’ll feel like you’re sinking into your bed. I’ll start to visualize the room I’m in specifically aka my bedroom. I’ll use the momentum from sinking in my bed into launching myself out of the bed but in my dream. It sounds odd but it’ll feel like you’ve moved your body to jump out of bed when you really haven’t. Then from there you can go on and explore the dream world for a bit, but it isn’t going to last too long in the real world so do what you want before it ends.
If that didn’t explain it well you can look up guides online to reach lucid dreaming through sleep paralysis.
Now for the reality check method, I’m not too familiar with, but I do know it takes longer and provides lucid dreams for most of your dreams you will have.
You have to form a habit of forming a reality check. It’s called a reality check because in dreams things behave differently than in the real world. Most common thing I’ve heard is checking a clock. In real life if you look at a clock it’ll read “5:45 pm” and you look away and read it again it’ll still say “5:45 or 5:46 pm”. In the dream world it will say the first time, but the second time might be completely different like “9:43 pm”. This reality check is to be done when you wake up, and throughout the day. Making it a habit to look at your watch twice in a row will become a habit and start to appear in your dreams.
The thing about reality checks vs sleep paralysis is that you know you’re dreaming in the sleep paralysis method because you purposefully put yourself in that state. The reality check method is more difficult because when you’re dreaming you’re not sure if you’re dreaming or not so reality checks help to allow you to learn reality vs dream.
[–]soapek11 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I dont need drugs now. Thx
[–]MuppetMurderer50 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Lucid dreaming isn’t a drug
[–]soapek10 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ik
[–]haptizum0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I want to try it out. I heard too much of it can be bad for you. Something along the lines of you won't be about to tell what is real and what is a dream. Is that true?
When you are dreaming it’s hard to tell whether or not you’re in reality, but when you’re awake you know for sure you’re awake and not dreaming.
The only time you can’t discern whether or not something is true is because you’re in a dream, the world you’ve created can be confusing.
But when you’re awake everything is much more open and not as tunnel visioned
One of the methods people use to deal with this is "reality checks." A couple examples are - look at your fingers, if you're dreaming you'll have more or less than 10. Push your finger into your palm, if you're dreaming you will be able to push it through. Pinch your nostrils shut and try to breathe, if you're dreaming you will still be able to breathe. Typically people choose one reality check and make it a habit to do it multiple times a day. The idea is that once it becomes a habit, you will perform it even in your dreams, and then instantly realize you're dreaming.
But don't worry about not being able to tell dreams from real life. You always know you're awake when you're actually awake. It's only when you're dreaming, you might believe yourself to be awake. I had a couple experiences where I woke up in my bed disappointed because I didn't have a lucid dream, only to wake up AGAIN and realize the first time I "woke up" was a dream. Shit gets kinda trippy.
[–]TakeYourDailyDose0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I tried that shit for a few months before giving up on it. I can always remember my dreams, and even influence some to a certain extent, but they never feel even remotely real.
[–]prodnxva0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How do I learn, any steps/tips?
[–]MuppetMurderer50 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Check out r/luciddreaming
[–]DevilSweets24 points25 points26 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Think about the future:
VR being synchronized with Sex Dolls.
I will support that 100%
[–]Patricijaobjectdude15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Plot twist; We're already in virtual reality. The bitches we designed are 1000 times better than what we used to deal with.
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[–]Finker1202 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hello world!
[–]Haywood_Jablomie423 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If the VR tech from Sword Art Online becomes real, you'll never need to deal with a human woman again.
[–]Night_Nin32 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's the point of it, why choosing world full of suffering and inperfections when you can just escape to world where there are "women" who truly love you, are dedicated and support you.
[–]nigborg2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
what are you going to do when you find out that VR makes you feel more alone, not less?
[–]getfreeeeeeedom10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Simple, more VR
[–]MAJIIC2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Recently started messing with VR porn since I already had a rift; it is a good cut above regular.
[–]Mathiya1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Reminds me of Tron legacy
[–]Chewiemuse0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
VirtaMate
[–]Braydawg90 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It will man. And I can’t wait.
[–]leviathanch0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well. There's already Google card board, which essentially is card board goggles where you put your phone into. You can try it with for instance this video (atm one of my favorites): https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5d63d4c8f2674
Besides that... https://i.imgur.com/gvolAiz.jpg
Have fun. The future is here 😂
[–]bobbiscotti0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dude, women are a small fraction of reality. If you just ignore them, the world is pretty amazing.
[–]Banned_For_Opinion191 points192 points193 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
We're so fucking simple and we still can't find a single person to be with. But yes, we're the problem..............
[–]Throwawaythey2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah when you can't find any girl who wants you, then your standards are going to be lower. The standards of most men are 1) be attractive, 2) allow him to feel loved and wanted, and 3) spend meaningful time together in the relationship where they both have fun.
Women are less carnal and value safety more than men. They want their spouse to be someone who can make them feel protected and cherished. They are more emotionally aware and expect men to be just as much so, even though it's impossible for us.
I hope all of you can realize women are not the greedy demons you make them out to be and sincerely hope that you all can find a meaningful relationship. I know a significant number of you are divorced and lost your house and children to a manipulative ex. Your hatred is justified but not correct. The majority of men grow up and find SOs that makes them become more complete humans. So everyone else is doing well except for you, so whose fault is it? Everyone else or yourself?
You can take the easy route or you can accept the fact that nobody is perfect and CHANGE YOURSELF.
[–]iambob-60 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lmao bro ur actually trying to change these guys?
[–]strainer123137 points138 points139 points 6 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link
Also, I hope she isn't FAT.
[–]jstrockmeyer60 points61 points62 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
For many not even that is a problem.
AWALT is always inside, fat or not
[–]Sir_manalot5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And According to society and women, he is STILL to picky and is the problem as to why relationships are fucked up.
I do not even think most men realize that they are chasing women one or two levels below there value. I have literally seen men whom are six and even sevens chasing mentally ill women who are four and threes.
How many good men have to be repeatedly rejected, how far do real men's standards must drop and how many times does a woman have to chase a deadbeat/abuser/rapist before people are willing to stop blaming men?
[–]getfreeeeeeedom42 points43 points44 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Good luck with that in 2019
[–]Cuntfart900020 points21 points22 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Disgusting fat slobs everywhere.
[–]PennFifteen17 points18 points19 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Half the people here are fat slobs, let's not pretend
[–]Cuntfart90004 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I did say everywhere.
Public Service Announcement: PUT THE ICE CREAM DOWN YOU SLOPPY FAT PIGS!
Men need to hear this most of all. Eating unhealthy foods raises estrogen and lowers testosterone, effectively turning you into a weak pathetic soyboy who is more easily manipulated and pushed around by women.
Throw your ice cream away, replace it with grass fed beef, hit the gym, and delete facebook!
[–]Cflores0081 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Interesting take there, Cuntfart9000
[–]Cuntfart900017 points18 points19 points 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Literally the only thing we ask of them, and apparently it's just too difficult to not shovel gallons of ice cream in their faces 24/7.
[–]Timdeuces12 points13 points14 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
I think the biggest problem is personality. I'd take an overweight girl that genuinely treats me with empathy and respect over a good-looking girl that treats me like trash. But in reality, AWALT
[–]Cuntfart90005 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Even the overweight girls are entitled little divas who think they deserve Chad Thundercock just for existing. That's the sad fact of life. They don't realize that their unrealistic standards will cause them to end up alone with nothing but their cats.
[–]Throwawaythey-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Do none of you have mothers who were decent people??? 50% of every species of Earth is female. Mothers raise nearly every child on Earth. It's like none of you have ever seen a decent woman before.
Before you start throwing your piss jugs at your monitor, no I'm not a feminist. I'm very much opposed to 3rd wave feminism [wage gap, infinite genders]. I first discovered this subreddit as a kid blinded by gamergate Anita Sarkeesian crap.
So call me a snowflake libtard for not despising women. All of you were born from one, and I don't believe for a SECOND that every single one of you was raised by a crack addicted white trash single mom.
[–]Cuntfart90000 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
What does that have to do with anything? Does having had a mother suddenly mean that fat entitled ham planets no longer exist? Try again.
[–]Throwawaythey-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I don't give a damn about obese lard blobs. The entire ideology of this subreddit is disgusting. Women are not your enemy.
[–]Cuntfart90000 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You sound triggered. Did your sippy cup run out of soy milk? 😢
[–]Throwawaythey0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
When saying "women are not evil" is getting triggered, what even counts as a rational argument with you incels?
[–]hellabad5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
or hope she doesn't get fat..
[–]ideserveall1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They all do.
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[–]ZTiRuscate3 points 6 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
True. Not fat, caring and loyal. I can sleep with a smile on my face every night knowing I have that. But somehow that’s an impossibility, I’m asking for too much and I’m a piece of shit asshole for even asking for anything. I should just accept the trashy, fat dollop-looking, single mom scam artist who will divorce rape me. 🤡 🌎
[–]ELPwork58 points59 points60 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
So true. Women marry men hoping to change them into the man they want him to be, while men marry women hoping they don't change from the girl they fell in love with while dating. Usually neither get what they want.
[–]FatChopSticks19 points20 points21 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
You know how impressionable boys can pick up on the ideas of what they think relationships are, and so boys wind up fantasizing about saving damsels from distress?
I read an article about how movies like Beauty and the Beast influenced impressionable girls into fantasizing about how boyfriends are supposed to be projects you work on, and that she is the reason the guy changed or that the guy is willing to change himself for her.
[–]sfldesigner45 points46 points47 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Goddamn so much truth
[–]simplisticallysimple37 points38 points39 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
And I be like, "Just stay the fuck away from me, and we'll be fine."
[–]Diogenes--18 points19 points20 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Miss me with that shit, fam. I'm going fishing instead."
[–]FightClubHamster6932 points33 points34 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
ooofs right in the feelz man
[–]livingInSimulation30 points31 points32 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
My ex in the begining of our tinder started relationship was bragging to her friends about how big my dick was. Couple months down the line when the relationship is about to end she starts trying to trash me how my dick was small. Funny how things change when things arent going there way.
[–]inzyte30 points31 points32 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It's not actually about the size of your dick. It's an attack on your self esteem. She's trying to damage you. Not a classy move.
[–]QuentinLeiataua0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It’s not the size of the boat. It’s the motion in the ocean
[–]mae19951110 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol
[–]Krazykid63630 points31 points32 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And for some reason...thinking this way makes you a nice guy or a soy boy.
[–]debanked20 points21 points22 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's all about the feelz. Big dick feelz good, expensive dinners feelz good
[–]Cuntfart900015 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
To be fair, we also want her to NOT be 400 pounds with short hair and covered in trashy tattoos, but apparently, that's just two much to ask these days.
[–]itwasntme1913 points14 points15 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why fool yourself with them taking you for who you are?
[–]BeastyWh1teGuy14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
What's funny is that all these "size queens" don't actually know what they want. They think that bigger is better, but in reality most women enjoy a 5.5 to 7 inch dick over a monster cock.
[–]thomal4611 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
To be real... girls just like the look... it's an ego boost for themselves to see a large erect cock all horned up for them...in my opinion girls dont like big dicks inside of them... they more often then not get hurt or really sore.
[–]Blaze-Bless 9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's true a quick Google search of testimonials will back that theory up, naturally there's going to be bigger chicks with bigger cunts and they can take a bigger dick, but that's the exception not the rule. Most experience a fairly unpleasant and uncomfortable feeling, I've read guys complaining that the girls they fuck complain about it causing pain and discomfort.
[–]thomal462 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah their is a whole process to banging chicks... or its guaranteed blood and tears
[–]jrpark051 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
They also complain if it is too big for them to suck.
[–]SquatchHunter694200 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In short: Women are impossible to please.
[–]Fantoche_Dreemurr11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
One of society's biggest myths is that "Men always think about sex"
Have men together, they will discuss projects and other concrete plans. Women will just babble non stop about sex. It's always about projection
[–]czamz0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
stop projecting !
[–]Helghan_Nationalist8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bitches ain't shit but hoops and tricks
[–]Yourboyfibs6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
hypocritical
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Another reason why it's better to hire a professional
[–]DisasterInACan4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
gonna get ripped to shreds here but most women before dates are more like “hope he doesn’t rape and kill me” just saying
[–]Freelance_Sector4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Guys be like... If you didn't have so much traffic going through there you wouldn't need a "huge" one. Just saying...
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Suuuurrreeee
Ah, you're from IT....that explains your comment.
[–]Aeksion_ondos2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That is due to evolution. All loyal female genes died initially when evolution and survival of the fittest started
[–]Throwawaythey1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
... You are aware that men are the ones generally committing infidelity and engaging in extramarital affairs. If women aren't happy, they get divorces like normal honest people. In fact, most men who commit adultery do it only once when their wife is away and their lonely, or their relationship is cold and distant so they feel little guilt for being unfaithful.
[–]MetaGenieGenius2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Female Coworkers telling me that asking for a woman with straight teeth, slim body, & great cooking skills is too much to ask for & unrealistic... MY FEMALE COWORKERS ARE FAT WITH YELLOW TEETH & REFUSE TO COOK FOR A MAN.
[–]151507763 points 6 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
iustbtood
[–]Glacierdust1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
And both end up disappointed 🤷♂️
[–]mgtow_till_death0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hahaha yes
[–]heartfelt241 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Nah.. I just hope she is hot.
[–]MTGGains1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
🧐 this is only really true for the chicks you should avoid... try talking to a girl who’s running her own business or a girl who goes to church or a girl who actually respects herself and wants to have a family and a good man to protecc
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
wants to have a family and a good man to protecc
You're projecting your expectations onto women, not how biology amd hypergamy works dude
[–]MTGGains1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
How am I projecting? I am saying that there are women who want families and good men... not big dicks.
That’s not a projection, it’s a reality...
Assuming and posting this BS that claims that ALL women just want a big dick is pathological projection.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I am saying that there are women who want families and good men
It's not exclusive, they want big dicks, rich husbands, families AND good men. That's hypergamy for ya.....of course, if you think women who own businesses and church girls are exempt from it; go ahead and try.
[–]MTGGains3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dude... good women want big dicks no more than good men want tight pussies, shapely boobs or nice asses.
At the end of the day, everyone wants a sexually attractive mate but will also take into consideration all of the other parts of a partner... like personality and ambition etc..
If, like the OP, all you want in a woman is for her to accept you for who you are, then you really need to start working on yourself. You are more valuable than that.
Take personal responsibility and stop projecting your insecurities into “all women”... put yourself in a position to look in the mirror and say, “I’m doing great”... all this shit will change for you.
[–]MetaGenieGenius1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Female Coworkers telling me it’s unrealistic for me to want a woman with straight teeth, slim body, & great cooking skills
[–]Ackiees1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And y'all be like "Hey....there's like a few thousand women in the world that are like this.....lets blame ALL women and say we're superior based on no evidence but hey, it makes us feel like we have bigger dicks!"
[–]HorseRadishson1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
women literally dont think this. you people literally hate women because you can't accept the fact that you have unattractive personalities.
Exactly!!! Mgtow is a safe space for snowflake males who don't want to grow up and improve themselves to get into a relationship.
[–]gimlislostson1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
have you ever met a girl before?
[–]MariusGK0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Aren't boys like gold diggers too?
More like pussy diggers. This is a shit post tho....generalizes a lot
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
oh my god
[–]SamsAdvice0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My own ex was only concerned about my dick initially. She just wanted to fuck. Then she wanted more...and more....and more.
[–]homerbenadryl0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
how radically untrue
[–]catf000d0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Pretend like that's the truth
[–]U-94-1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Guys better not be like that. You're a disposable frontline soldier in all parts of life. Your relationships, your job, etc. Going around expecting someone to be nice to you is not going to work out. I guess get a dog but really you shouldn't be so delusional in the first place.
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