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debanked · 2020-02-22T07:18:04+00:00

And abolish anything related to family: child support, child allowances, alimony etc.

n0t__t0day · 2020-02-22T07:12:20+00:00

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RealBiggly · 2020-02-22T07:50:30+00:00

There's nothing radical or new about this, indeed it's the bedrock of feminism since the 60s, get rid of fatherhood, go back to slutting around and harems.

That's literally what feminism IS, not some 'radical proposal'.

thatMGTOWguy · 2020-02-22T07:48:40+00:00

Give me one good reason why I should take any feminist seriously. Those who didn’t build society shouldn’t be listened to seriously for suggestions on improving it

DangZagnut · 2020-02-22T10:26:11+00:00

Yeah no shit. Single mothers and poverty.

Communism requires everyone to be equally poor. Except the political class of course. Their butter arrives on time.

“Feminism” will exostbwhen everyone is powered to the abilities of the stupidest woman. That’s how commies work. They can’t raise people up, so everyone has to be punished down. Except their children of course.

But commie idiots love equality and slavery and tyranny. Makes their retardation happy.

MissSoggyKnees · 2020-02-22T15:09:10+00:00

Story time.

I dated a delusional feminist once (didn't realize she was a feminist until later).

She was approaching 40 years old and she had the worse case of baby rabies I could imagine. Having children was literally all she could talk about. All her friends had children at various ages and she would talk about how cute they all were. She had all these plans for how she was going to raise her children. She wanted to have 5 children. Five, starting at age 40. And she wanted to go to law school and start a new career.

I should mention she was *very attractive*. She was separated from her husband who was a handsome, wealthy doctor. So she was used to the good life. And she wanted more of it, and thought she could do better without her rich husband. A classic alpha widow. So her grand plan to do better without him was to go to law school and become a rich successful lawyer, but she also wanted to have 5 children -- and all this starting at age 40.

I was beside myself at this point.

Then I asked how she thought she would have enough time to raise all these children and go to law school at the same time. It took her a moment to think about it and with a straight face she said her mother would help out. Like it was just so obvious this grand plan of hers to have a large family and become a lawyer and start a law business was all going to work.

And to top it off, not once did she talk about having a husband. Nuts. Absolutely fucking nuts. It didn't even enter her mind that she would probably need to find a husband that shares her grand vision, or she would have to find 5 baby daddies willing to knock her up one after another before she hits menopause.

Long story short, she is now 45, childless, and husbandless, and has probably hit menopause or incapable of having children.

Blissbynature · 2020-02-22T08:48:31+00:00

The misery on that face is plain as day.

clayticus · 2020-02-22T08:52:57+00:00

Women will be the most saddest if the family structure goes, but ok.

backonmyBS · 2020-02-22T10:05:58+00:00

this is what a feminist looks like

2020-02-22T10:54:59+00:00

And what a surprise: she's a communist, a marxist and actively pushing the transgender agenda.

Feminism has always been about eradicating the West by destroying families, allowing the woman to do everything possible to destroy the relationship and enslave the man with the help of the state, and forcing the children to be at the mercy of the woman and the state without being able to be protected from these by their dad.

LongTimeOn · 2020-02-22T08:50:57+00:00

And when the birth rate falls through the floor, when all these old bags can't find anyone to marry, knock them up or pay for their shit....what then you genius? Us men will just laugh and carry on with our lives. The sperm banks will be dry because some feminist will propose that donors pay child support, there will literally be no more children, or at the very least a huge decline.

PhantasyBoy · 2020-02-22T10:58:11+00:00

Indeed, we can’t have happy, mentally stable children can we? How awful!

eduardkoopman · 2020-02-22T14:58:26+00:00

She basically, proposes a system where the whole community takes responsibility for raising a born baby/child. Aka, me. Aka, I'm being forced to pay and spend time/effort for the raising of other men (and women) their children. Forced cuckery. I can already see the results; Women making babies with attractive men (whom gets of the hook paying wise), and I/us (average dude) left to pick up the tab. (I know it's already the case to an decent extend, through taxation and wellfare programms for single moms).

To quote article:
"She imagines a future where the labor of making new human beings is shared among all of us, “mother” no longer being a natural category, but instead something we can choose."
" That means caring for each other not in discrete private units (also known as nuclear households), but rather within larger systems of care that can provide us with the love and support we can’t always get from blood relations—something Lewis knows all too well. "

Rottinghere · 2020-02-22T08:40:21+00:00

I willing to bet that she was molested when she was a kid.

suckmyfuck91 · 2020-02-22T18:01:10+00:00

I'm not even angry at feminists, i'm hungry at those simps who allow feminism to thrive. If i could i would cut off those men's balls, they don't even need it.

altair43 · 2020-02-22T13:09:51+00:00

WTF is a "feminist thinker". What you're supposed to do? Maybe it means, "My hamster wheel is always on overdrive"?

BoogersAndSugar · 2020-02-22T13:52:19+00:00

And here we thought abolishing the family unit was nothing more than a conspiracy theory. Interesting.

darkfatesboxoffice · 2020-02-22T16:06:06+00:00

Isnt it weird that -ist and -ism futures cant be realized without adhering to some form of communist ideological point.

pangolin001 · 2020-02-22T16:37:53+00:00

Full article: LINK

"Her radical proposition is that we practice “full surrogacy” by abolishing the family. That means caring for each other not in discrete private units (also known as nuclear households), but rather within larger systems of care that can provide us with the love and support we can’t always get from blood relations"

Feminism is communism. Feminism CAN NOT SURVIVE WITHOUT IT. WOMEN CAN NOT SURVIVE WITHOUT IT.

"Nuclear households create the infrastructure for capitalism, passing wealth and property down family trees, concentrating it in the hands of the few at the top of our class hierarchy."

I swear they can't see more than 2 feet in front of their face. She doesn't want to have to depend on one man, she wants to depend on everyone and somehow thinks there won't be any bosses (or rather, she thinks she'll be one of them).

"She’s concerned with much bolder possibilities: In Lewis's utopian future, the family as we know it no longer exists. Everyone, regardless of gender, is a surrogate; we mother each other."

Imagine this... fat feminist takes a couple useless degrees, is broke, no man, probably wants children and wants everyone to take care of her and the child. And what about the men? Who knows. The article goes way off the rails and rambles on about who knows what and a bunch of personal stories about how she thinks her dad is an asshole.

Of course you can't have a 'feminist' future without abolishing the family. It's the last place the average man has any position of value in his personal life.

Women CAN NOT compete with men. If they could, they wouldn't need to hamstring/get rid of us. If you're in a group of campers and a bear attacks, you don't have to be the fastest camper, you just have to be faster than the slowest camper. And what is the slowest camper going to do? Try and trip the other campers. READ: Feminists are the slowest campers, but of course they think they world would be utopia if only the slowest and least capable were running the show.

She really thinks she'd have value in this 'new world'.

Tailback · 2020-02-22T16:57:47+00:00

Typical feminist living in filth. Look at the mold on the window sills. Look at the dirt on top of the baseboard heaters. Disgusting fat angry sow.

2020-02-22T17:27:17+00:00

Funny , destroying the family would mean destroying white people

Hispanics and blacks are going to procreate for the gibs no matter what social order of the day is trending.. this is European genocide to the apathetic cucks on this sub who deny the destruction of their people and call me a ‘nahtzeee’

im good with that- the nazis aka the workers party national socialists of Germany were great men and women who loved their volk and had morals and the balls to fight back...

what do we stand for today in the west?the ‘who cares or it won’t be my problem much longer ‘ mentality of boomers and millennials ?

2020-02-22T18:05:43+00:00

Surprise surprise, the answer to the Feminist question lies in Cultural marxism.

Toasty_Nuggetz · 2020-02-22T19:26:24+00:00

This is why you don't let women vote.

Lurker_osservatore · 2020-02-22T11:03:12+00:00

The spaces left empty are always filled by something else, the world is not a closed but open system and if the western family is canceled, something else will take its place, and I don't see anything so tolerant / functional [at least in the past ] on the horizon.

One Chinese curse says "that your wishes can come true", another says "that you can live in interesting times", well I believe that certain wishes will be fulfilled and very interesting times will follow, for those who will read about them in history books .

cuckington_thebutler · 2020-02-22T14:08:13+00:00

Isn't the future already here?

"Feminist thinker." She looks like all of her peers - completely unappealing and miserable.

antifeminist3 · 2020-02-22T19:32:16+00:00

"That means caring for each other not in discrete private units (also known as nuclear households), but rather within larger systems of care that can provide us with the love and support we can’t always get from blood relations"

This is making an assumption about human nature--that people can have just as much empathy for loose friendships as you can for close family and friends.

I think this is contrary to human nature. It won't work. People will not be willing to give their labor to the mothers. It could only be implemented by force. She is so female-centric that she fails to consider the 'effects on others.' Feminists are quick to point out the 'effects on women.', but that's the problem, they only look at the effects on women.

I can't find the reference, but I once read a meta-analysis of hunter-gatherer society cultures who lived traditional lifestyles (before significant modern influence). Most of these were studies several decades ago because modern influence is pervasive in these mostly former hunter-gatherer cultures... 91% had monogamous marriage. So even they thought it was a good idea.

Her system, if implemented, would not only reinforce unilateral control of reproduction by women, but entitle women to force others to help the mother, while excluding any notion of 'father'. It's a zero-sum game of control for women. She also has a sense of entitlement to other people's labor: a woman has the right to other people's labor because a woman chooses to have a kid. That's not equality, but it is feminism.

In addition, she thinks that nine months of 'pregnancy labor' entitles women to 18 years of other people's labor.

2020-02-22T11:19:48+00:00

honestly i dont like family either. guess i like feminists? still not. lol

DarthCallidous · 2020-02-22T11:57:46+00:00

But if you don't have a family why do you care? These people, I swear.

Givemeanamedamn · 2020-02-22T12:05:21+00:00

That face, haunting.

show-me-the-numbers · 2020-02-22T13:58:01+00:00

What she means is that she wants women to opt out of having families. That will be ok, soon. Us men will create robot females that are values-programmable and have a mute switch. They will be the new man's best friend.

RaceCarRIGHTNOW · 2020-02-22T14:40:43+00:00

Nose check please.

bpdloveoflife · 2020-02-22T14:43:32+00:00

If they abolish family it will only benefit men.

NathanHollister · 2020-02-22T15:53:35+00:00

Well they have already abolished the family, so I guess we're already where she wants to be. She should be delighted.

Celebrate_Diversity · 2020-02-22T15:56:52+00:00

probably because she had a bad family and abusive mother, she thinks everyone should suffer.

Pseudo intellectual drivel and bizarre worldview

peepeeandpoopooman · 2020-02-22T17:05:00+00:00

Or to put it another way- remove fathers from families.

Vidar34 · 2020-02-22T17:09:28+00:00

This is nothing new. The extremist branches of feminism always wanted to abolish the family. The only difference now is that mainstream feminists are starting to parrot the same rhetoric.

2020-02-22T17:44:29+00:00

At 40 years old they all regret having no kids. They try to replace the void with pets and substances but it never works.

DanTheLionRuler · 2020-02-22T18:56:55+00:00

Waste of ink that stupid fucking pseudo-article. Look at one of the pictures in that feminist column and tell me Jordan B. Peterson is not right when he says: “set your house in perfect order before you criticize the world”. She lives in a pigsty full of lame posters like she’s 15yo but she has the guts to tell people how the new world order should be. It’s just pathetic.

FerociousAIDS · 2020-02-22T20:06:49+00:00

It's confirmed, feminism is a shit test.

2020-02-22T20:42:44+00:00

Instead, she uses the surrogacy industry to build the argument that all gestation is work because of the immense physical and emotional labor it requires of those who do it.

roughly 1,000 people in the United States who still die as a result of pregnancy and childbirth each year—mostly poor women and women of color. “This situation is social, not simply ‘natural.’ Things are like this for political and economic reasons: we made them this way.”

So pregnancy is work, and women can die during pregnancy. Women dying during pregnancy should thus be classified as workplace deaths. Even after considering the women dying, I am sure men's workplace deaths are much higher.

Therefore, we should prioritize men's workplace deaths rather than women's workplace deaths, including them dying while giving birth.

Also (surprise!) she's a communist.

That means caring for each other not in discrete private units (also known as nuclear households), but rather within larger systems of care that can provide us with the love and support we can’t always get from blood relations—something Lewis knows all too well.

Delifier · 2020-02-22T22:35:30+00:00

Also would guess these are the same thast have a problem with MGTOW, wich have similar effects.

graydoggames · 2020-02-22T22:55:11+00:00

"Feminist think" lol ok

Ukhupa · 2020-02-23T03:07:09+00:00

Am I the only one that reads this as "I can't have all the nice things every other normal person has, so they must be destroyed!"

maxlvb · 2020-02-23T04:08:06+00:00

I hope this doesn't break the 'No Feminism' rule...

This isn't new at all....

The nuclear family must be destroyed… Whatever its ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process.

Linda Gordon, feminist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Gordon

Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the women’s movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage. Sheila Cronin, the leader of the feminist organization NOW

Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice.

Andrea Dworkin, feminist

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Dworkin

https://thoughtcatalog.com/jake-fillis/2014/05/23-quotes-from-feminists-that-will-make-you-rethink-feminism/

AloneScallion · 2020-03-08T10:36:25+00:00

If any of you is fluent in Spanish, I highly recommend you to read the book "El Libro Negro de la Nueva Izquierda" of Nicolas Marquez and Agustin Laje, it's just great, and it will give you full insight of how this neo-marxism works.

Don't buy the translated version in English of kindle, it was translated by an amateur, but if you can read Spanish, please buy it and read it, it will give you lots of insight. I haven't came acroos a book like that in English yet.

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