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[–]CrazyMGTOWer 37 points38 points39 points 8 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Make it infographic. May be legend
[–]MTGOStark 27 points28 points29 points 8 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
I might at some point, I just drew this up quickly in one hour. Could easily be improved/extended.
[–]RedPilledNihilist1315 points 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
This is gold man.
[–]seekerofwisdom23 11 points12 points13 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Re make the image but with sources? If you included 3 sources for every stat, this image would be able to red pill many people. At the moment anyone blue pilled will just disregard it as BS, tho I personally don't of course, it's such a harsh reality man fuck.
[–]MGTOW_Monger0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Is what is
[–]uebermacht7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Make an info graphic please so I can print it as a poster to hang it on the wall as reminder :) (I am serious)
[–]marsdrogan1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
you got skills
[+][deleted] 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
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wrong
A mere accusation of rape on a college campus...even months after the fact, can DESTROY the reputation of a young man.
No due process
So yeah...fuck u simp ass bitch
[–]Onkel_Adolf0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Wat is AFBB? All females=ball busters?
[–]Kellywasmyfirst2 points 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
alpha fucks beta bucks
Don't marry
Don't cohabitate
If 1 one wants kids, never forget the 2 points made above
[–]chasingsnow 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
needs a bit more data for that.
[–]DullKris26 points27 points28 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh! So green means it's good for me! Let just take a look.....oh my..
[–]cyborg_type_darkness19 points20 points21 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You should add 1/15 marriage survive past the 10-year mark. That's around 7%.
[–]CrazyMGTOWer 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It s based last 10 years data. Just think about the future. There will be no marriage which survive 10 years-line
[–]sherrif_taylor13 points14 points15 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I also subscribe to the r/theredpill. There are valuable lessons there, but I do not think they realize they are slaves.
[–]DangZagnut8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Maybe the angrier they get the more they can lift. Like the hulk.
[–]wrinkledpancake 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I like the red pill cause it helps me with my headspace but yeah I'm with you. Not being a slave to 1 pussy doesn't mean you're not a slave to the pussy
[–]2QuietDude13 points14 points15 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They should hand these out in high schools and colleges
[–]Marque019 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
What is AFBB?
[–]relevantretriever18 points19 points20 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Alpha Fucks Beta Bucks
[–]Marque018 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh ya. thanks. AF/BB is how I remember that one
[–]gravelheart 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Feminine mystique" laid bare in 4 letters.
[–]2QuietDude9 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You're flirting with gold here
[–]Fyodor0079 points10 points11 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
This is pretty great.
I think it might have more of an impact if there were green in some of the pro columns though. Here's why, when you're laying this out on this sub, it will meet with approval 100%? Outside the sub, for men who haven't realized that all their relationships have been the same shit, this comes off as bitter.
The green in the column of dating could be "regular sex" with a counter point of the cost of dating (likening it to prostitution, ideally with better value per dollar spent), and a counter point of the false rape charges. But as the relationship escalates to marriage, it goes away.
Also something like, dedicated activity companion in the green, but countered by the expense and time loss of activities you don't want to do. Like shitty movies, vegen restaurants etc.
There is some impact in the best case scenario being a "good for you" and in the realization that even in the height of your best relationships, that best case only happens sometimes and with great cost.
Just my 2 cents.
[–]MTGOStark 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The reason I don't include "regular sex" is because she's also getting regular sex from you. Sex is supposed to be mutually beneficial, if she thinks she's "giving" you sex or something like that, she's using sex as a weapon/bargaining chip and the relationship is dysfunctional. That would be a negative if anything. And there are other means to get regular sex that aren't so dysfunctional. But yes for future iterations I should probably include some things in green, that was meant as a slight joke.
[–]Fyodor0071 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I see what you're saying. My interpretation was "the effect of various relationships on me, the reader" without considering that balanced benefits aren't listed. I still believe there is an impact value of stuff like "shared expenses" "regular sex" "shared household workload" because I believe that most relationships don't have equality in these areas, and when men realize that they aren't even getting the bare minimum of equality (before factoring in the legal and financial inequalities) it will speak to a wider audience.
If that makes sense. I know you're not creating a propaganda piece here though.
[–]micronite7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The "factors in each category are not mutually exclusive" makes this perfect.
A factual advertisement of marriage would just be the list of side effects they give for medical drugs.
[–]TradCucksBTFO5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Excellent work brother!
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Damn this shit is pretty good. Perhaps maybe sidebar it or perfect it and sidebar it?
[–]ZergSuperHighway5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Solid chart. I believe hypergamous is the correct adjective/
[–]secret6263 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Great post!
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That car looks really nice at the top, i think i'll go for the car.
[–]Zigis23 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Saved it.
[–]fearganfadhb3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Brilliant cheat sheet. Spreadsheets are a man's best friend. I document every aspect of my life in spreadsheets from health & fitness to personal finance to tracking alcohol and drug consumption.
What are the greyed out blocks? Private reasons for MGTOW?
[–]MTGOStark 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just dividers.
[–]gravelheart 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Also
Emotional devastation from rejection, cheating and having your children turned against you and stolen from you
Related - risk of substance abuse, suicide and prison/execution if you lose it and enact natural justice on your cheating whore wife.
And being relegated to a fucking "cave" in the house you fucking paid for.
[–]fritzcat422 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'm curious about the source regarding 80% of sexual assault / rape accusations being false.
[–]Onkel_Adolf2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I once dated a female vice cop..she drunkenly said 90% of rape claims were horseshit.
[–]fritzcat421 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That honestly wouldn't surprise me, I just am interested in the source he used, as that could be a pretty good rebuttal against feminist bs.
[–]WhatMixedFeelings2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This should be stickied haha
[–]chasingsnow 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
GREAT, but needs more info. needs better formatting as well, but youre onto something here. i will reference this in the future to remind myself of the basics.
[–]throwawaylifespan1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Needs credible references for each fact. I'd like to use after.
Missing fact: There's an estimate of 1 in 17-20 paternity fraud (UK government number). Will try to find the source.
[–]MadeInTheBackseat1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Where are people finding such high reports of false rape accusations? I can only ever find extremely low numbers.
[–]BubbleGas 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I wish these infographics would just focus on legit points, rather than exaggerating the negatives and excluding the positives.
It's great for a sub like this, but I want some material to red pill the beta bills out there. And this ain't gonna cut it. I can think of at least one positive of marriage, and since this post doesn't have any how do you expect a beta bill to take it seriously?
Beta bill will just dismiss it as: "it's just those loser virgins crying because they can't get laid." You expect a beta bill to believe that all women are vapid, lazy, controlling etc. Nah, he will still believe in his disney unicorn.
We need an infographic that debunks the NAWALT myth. It's a big ask but I hope that's possible.
[–]Zealomon1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I activate Change of Heart. I can now use this card.
Jokes aside, awesome reference card. Definitely provides a scope of the consequences with just a glance.
[–]username0820162 points 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Damn bro, concise
[–]SnapshillBot0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
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[–]crimsonsamuraiftw0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I can't really put the combat deaths on their doorstep, thats historically ingrained to the machinations of our society.
Everything else is pretty much spot on.
[–]DarthCallidous0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you made this OP, nice work.
[–]Malefics0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you for this
[–]PushForFreedom0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow!! I did not know alimony and child support could take between 50-80% of my income!? Holy crap. I knew it was bad but damn
[–]machotacomonster 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
feminism is a mental diease
[–]Muginns 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
But But But! You'll die alone horriibly; surrounded by memories of travelling far and wide, and drowning in money! You poor man! ;-)
[–]MGTOWManofMystery0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Upload to Google Drive and share it! Then again, Google nowadays might ban you...
[–]oew9990 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Great work! I feel like it would be even more impactful if you'd add a weak pro or two in each category.
[–]Peruaan0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Pathstic
[–]KumonRoguing0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Can I get a source for the 80% of sexual assault accusations being false? Seems awfully high even for how terrible females are.
[–]Afab67 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This ought to be required reading. I wonder at what age young men ought to read it. Is 15 too young?
[–]Solstus220 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Will you be revising this in the future by any chance?
[–]MTGOStark 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Maybe, I just drew this up in the spur of the moment. I suppose it could be valuable having more of a properly produced infographic/sheet for this.
[–]TheOldEskimo0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I certainly believe it, but could I have some source links for my own personal use? If it ever comes up, I'd like to be able to point to a source for the numbers.
Great post -- thanks for the time you put in.
[–]Megghins1 point 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I'll always remember the first bank resume I got after I split, it just skyrocketed <3 (no marriage no kids, my house my bills). The "50-50" thing is pure bullshit, only in movies women are more economically inclined in the couple. In real life they'll screw up years of work in a matter of weeks.
[–]Luce_Bree1 point 8 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I would suggest in the "dating" and "relationship" categories you list "Sex" as a pro.
This does two things, as on one hand it demonstrates that sex is usually the ONLY potential benefit to dating and relationships for a man (an irony, since women hate being reduced to sex objects).
On top of that, this also serves as a more stark contrast to the "dead bedroom" that awaits married men.
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