~ archived since 2018 ~
Popular
Other
nonchalantfool
[–]RadicalAsceticMonk125 points126 points127 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
I'd say there's a 9 in 10 chance that Larry does, in fact, give a lot of shits about what Laura thinks. Such is the sad reality of simpdom.
[–]massy52570 points71 points72 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Larry will pay off her debt by taking on debt himself. This will cause a temporary financial hardship for him. During this time Laura will sense the weakness and start cheating on him. Eventually she will divorce him and take half his stuff. Larry will spend the next 10 years digging himself out of a financial hole for getting involved with an actual hole.
[–]SardinesFordinna19 points20 points21 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You forgot the having his child and getting child support part lol
[–]Sir_manalot22 points23 points24 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No, Chad's child.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You know it ain’t his kid but she’ll tell him and the courts it is. And if she cheats on someone of same race she’s good
[–]anonymouslionn1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A black hole. No heart having empty void.
[–]MenGoingTOWin0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Larry will spend the next 10 years digging himself out of a financial hole for getting involved with an actual hole.
Did you know that the hole's only natural enemy is the pile?
[–]massy5251 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I laughed.
[–]nonchalantfool[S] 24 points25 points26 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
simp's gotta simp
[–]talk_show_ghost11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
True. My best friend is in engineering and he says it’s full of bluepilled men.
[–]Mgtoe1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm about to go into engineering but I blend in by being BP as to not draw attention but still do my own thing. Would your friend say being mgtow would be an advantage in this profession?
[–][deleted] 47 points48 points49 points 7 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
Fuuuck. I’m in the boat with Laura. I didn’t realize until too late that business school is over saturated. If everyone goes to school for a certain degree then yea you’re gonna have a hard time finding work. Wish I gone to trade school instead. Now my only option is to go military because no company will hire me without “entry level experience” take this to heart those of you that are still in high school: college is overrated and practically useless at this point; go to trade school and learn a skill
[–]fmanly32 points33 points34 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
A big part of the problem is that kids are surrounded by people giving them bad advice. My wife and I advised her daughter about not going to college, because we didn't think it made sense for her. It was a HUGE battle. She translated it into us thinking that she "wasn't good enough" or something like that.
She had guidance counselors and teachers pushing her to go to college. They want to brag about the school's rate of sending kids to college, and at graduation they read off where each student was going to school next.
She had friends pushing her to go to college. Gotta do the whole party thing.
Her father was also pushing her to go to college. Gotta have something to brag about at work.
In the end she went to study cosmetology instead, and it was the best thing for her. She ended up with almost no debt, and was done in a year. And now she has a decent job and seems relatively happy with it.
If she had gone to college she'd have a lot more debt, and would probably not be making any more than she is making right now. She'd probably also be a lot less satisfied with her life as it is now, having established higher expectations in her mind.
She wasn't a "bad student" or anything like that - just very average. IMO average students are the ones who often get chewed up by the system. They're not getting merit-based scholarships, so they pay more. They might not be good at STEM/etc, so they're more likely to "follow their hearts" and get a completely useless degree. Then when they get out into the cruel world they find it oversaturated and being just average they can't compete, but have a ton of debt.
[+][deleted] 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
[deleted]
[–]fmanly0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There are plenty of jobs out there for people who are conscientious and moderately above average.
The problem is that they're almost all going to India/China/etc.
With consolidation/specialization/etc it is a lot harder to stand out if you aren't exceptional in some way.
I'd suggest looking at smaller companies in less-populated areas as one strategy. Generic developer in SFO isn't going to get you as far as generic developer in Boise if there happens to be a job opening (there will be a LOT fewer openings though). Smaller companies are also less likely to be outsourcing to India/etc.
Also, try to look for niches. They can be harder to get into but tend to pay a lot more especially with some experience. Don't be "developer" but instead be "embedded radio firmware developer" or "point of sale terminal developer" or "aircraft avionics developer" or "building HVAC automation developer." Note, I have zero experience in any of those areas and made them up, so maybe some of those are dead ends. You get the picture though. I do IT work without an IT degree in a niche area, and do just fine because my in was my STEM background in the general domain, and now I have experience in domains that are very common in business but simply not taught in college at all. Nobody above me in the company could possibly do my job, so I get a fair bit of leeway as long as I am keeping things going.
[–]TheresNoCultHere18 points19 points20 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Go in the military to get some training in something that could be useful in the real world, and save as much money as you can. If you can use the experience from business school, start your own business after you get out of the military.
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
DO NOT do this 1) We dont want you if you are just going in for your own self gain. 2) It isnt worth it the militarty is one of the biggest jokes of all time. Even as an officer you are treated as a child. No freedom, no purpose, it is literally draining the life out of you. You will go in thinking damn this will be great only to find a bunch of shit bags that joined to get free college, healthcare and benfits. Then you will have to look after those shit bags as a parent. It is the most beta life you can be in.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
ThNks. That’s definitely the plan. I certainly wish more recruiters had the civilians’ best interest at heart. I got lucky and have a recruiter helping me find the career best suited for me.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Infantry was good, until it wasn't lol.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah dude, 19D here, just not a lot that can translate to civilian jobs. If I could turn back time I would have chosen something more practical.
[–]massy5257 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I was eating lunch at a upper end lunch/bar place and group of 4 20yo college girls sat down next to me (for whatever reason since the place was nearly empty). I started talking with them for a minute and said I bet I can guess your major (all 4) is business school. Guess what? I was right.
Don't worry though. If you are getting an actual business degree for real reasons you'll be fine. None of those girls will actually be able to use it other than to fill in an affirmative action position. Just make sure you are getting paid what you are worth up front since you now know you will be getting their workload no matter where you go.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
True. For the past 20 years, I have maintained steady employment in the high paying technical field ($100k +) with my Associate of Science degree in electronics. Every job interview I have had only cares that I have an AS degree. Even though what I learned is somewhat outdated, they still ask for it.
The interviewers could care less about my BS in Business Management or my MBA in Finance. I thought I wasted my time and money pursuing them since I don't use them directly. But people tell me that my degrees may not be totally useless since I'm never selected for layoffs, which happens routinely in the high tech field. It's how they get rid of dead weight.
[–]massy5252 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
degrees may not be totally useless since I'm never selected for layoff
Or you can just make sure your boss is aware of your work (assuming you are doing any) and they will put you on the "keep" list.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Not always the case. My previous boss actually recognized hard work and rewarded appropriately. He retired. My new boss was a pig who harassed and pushed people out the door if they didn't brown nose him, irregardless of work performance. I was one of his targets since I thought he was a moron. I got sick of him and took a voluntary buyout and found a better job elsewhere. The real world doesn't always work as expected.
[–]massy5250 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That sucks but you had to know it was coming if he retired. That's life gotta roll with the punches sometimes.
The real world doesn't always work as expected.
No shit but that doesn't mean you shouldn't have some rules of thumb or anything.
[–]idrinkconcentratedoj2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You would think in business school they would teach people to start their own business and grind.
[–]TheGreatUsername2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Business school is only bad if you don't pick the right degree, like any other major/field in college. If you're one of those goobers who just does marketing, real estate, or general business/business administration and just hopes they find something along the way then yeah, the job market will not be good to you. If you do something specialized in business, e.g. MIS, accounting, actuarial science etc. and get a good internship under your belt you'll be just fine. I hope so at least, since I'm an MIS major at a pretty good business school, although I'm pretty sure my major is like less than 100 out of 2500 or so BBA students so saturation isn't an issue.
[–]Thevoiceofreason4201 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You just need to be smart about what degree you go for if you go to college. I went for accounting and got my bachelors, pretty high demand for bookkeepers in my city. If you can handle bodily fluids and shit you can go for nursing, nurses are in high demand.
[–]cypresstalker0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fell into the same trap, fortunately we have good academic scholarships in my state. But it was still hell finding a job
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You should’ve studied engineering any of the fields are good
[–]banana_commando32 points33 points34 points 7 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
I'm like Larry in this except I spent 3 weeks amd $6000 going to cdl school now i make $60k a year as a truck driver. My ex left me because I didn't want to be an artist making $25k a year anymore. I'm soooo fucking glad I never got a degree in graphic design.
[–]RedPillTruth105 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I’m finishing up my undergrad this year. Pissed i didn’t just learn a trade. Thinking about doing what you just put here. Not a trade, but pays better than any job with just a bachelor degree in CRimjnal justice
[–]banana_commando4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Truck drivers are massively in demand right now and in my opinion it's a great career. I barely feel like I'm working when I'm driving. I pull a flatbed trailer, too. So that gets me some exercise everyday.
Part of why my graphic artist job was so terrible is the job market is fully saturated with wannabe artists. There's a massive shortage of truckers right now so everywhere is hiring and paying well. A class A cdl is pretty much a license to always have a job.
[–]greywolf19684 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have an HGV licence which is the British version of the CDL.I earn over £30,000 a year and that's only driving a rigid.Men who can drive an article or semi to our American cousins, make a lot more especially if they are qualified to drive fuel tankers. Trades are the way to go and if you can get more than one, you're good to go.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What is useful is getting a two year degree in computer aided drafting and design and building information modeling
Been thinking of doing this
[–]Yashugan0024 points25 points26 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Laura thinks Larry is beneath her
[–]ROCKSTARMANIC8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This is so true and im not trying to generalize, many young adults that went to college or uni think theyre better than the young adults that didn't regardless if theyre man or woman.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Generally in Asian communities blue collar workers are seen as proles to the white collar workers. At least from my experience.
[–]depth_charger6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Laura wishes Larry was under her
[–]Ubermensch-119 points20 points21 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Thing is, the unemployability factor is a self-fulfilling prophecy for women. The cycle goes:
Men hold jobs in high-paying or niche fields, spurred on to get these jobs by desires and societal expectations of men to be successful and make money.
Women see this, throw a fit about gender inequity in the field.
Women are influenced to enter the field by educational programs and propaganda.
The job market becomes saturated, wages drop.
Men leave to find better paying jobs in other niche fields. Rinse and repeat.
Women, by their mere presence, undermine the labour market. Not even saying that's necessarily a bad thing, it makes goods and services cheaper, but women could all become tradespeople (which they won't, since it's difficult) and they would still depress wages and make less money.
[–]dragonsbless8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Man this is hilariously true exactly what happened in IT jobs.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm pretty sure it's an issue about the job being uncomfortable.
[–]rebuildingMyself17 points18 points19 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And Laura sees herself far above Larry in terms of value, status, independence, and respectability.
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Had a girlfiend once say to me, "what happens when your company goes out of business, how will you survive?"
I own a small business and am very proud of what I do but that one mistake I made was caring what some dumb cunt had to say because I didnt want to waste my money and time at a 4 year college or even a comminity college when I can be sucessful and happy working for myself.
She now has a gender studies degree, with a masters in something having to deal with transgender counceling and works at a sandwich shop. She's now in debt six figures but I'm the uneducated caveman that is a loser while she is already sucessful.
Well I can atest she is shit at her own degree because we dated for five years and not once did it dawn on her that I'm transgender.
Have been my whole life, no I'm not one to transition to female, not with my body frame, lol, HUGE BITCH is what they would call me. It isnt easy but what would have made it better if the person I at the time thought I wanted to spend my life with could have helped comfort me instead of always making me feel like I was subhuman because of our difference of education.
A degree does not make you a better person.
Damn! That took an unexpected turn! Hope you’re doing better now!
Much better, took a few more attempts before I decided to just go my own way and not sweat it as much. Thank you for your kind reply.
[–]The_Man116 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Larry's knees and shoulders are gone at 50.
[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
And most office people will have diabetes
[–]AcrobaticAge1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Fitness" trainer here (whatever the hell "fitness" means):
Most office people's knees and back are gone at 30 and you are quite right: most of them will have diabetes and/or hypertension by their 50's.
[–]LordofTeh_Sun2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Enjoy your college debt buddy
[–]The_Man114 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Zero debt.
[–]LordofTeh_Sun-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So daddy paid for that gender studies degree? Nice.
Yeah ok sure buddy. No go on back to r/TheBluePill where you belong.
Except bitches get cushy hand me down jobs and don’t even have to suck dick for it anymore. I on the other hand after being lied to my whole life by everyone and Am in a pickle.
[–]Itisforsexy6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Even better than that, many trade unions will sponsor you for an apprenticeship. No debts to pay off at all.
It's hard work, but anyone with an IQ of 100 or so can learn most trade skills. Pick one you like, combine it with the single MGTOW life (ideally minimalist) and you can literally become a millionaire before your 50s. Maybe 40s, in the type of job most of society thinks of as living paycheck to paycheck.
Most of society are morons, although I'm preaching to the choir on that one.
[–]pleaseeatsomeshit5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My best friend i high school is bitter towards me because he manages a copy center with a four year business degree and I make almost twice than him with just a high school vocational education and 10 years of job experience.
Machining and mechanical design for the win.
[–]Jabronskyi2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Larry. Nuff said
[–]Willinbc2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ya, be like Larry.
[–]KodjoSuprem2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
But Larry voted Trump...
[–]irishluckk2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I went to trade school for free, the job corps program really saved me life.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
mhh I don't know. I see my friends who graduated doing far better than my friends who learned a trade, at least here in Germany.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
University is free in Germany tho, right??
yess
So that's where Toby McGuire went to
[–]probablyNOTtomclancy1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
First off: saturated market, not “saturate market”
Doubtful Larry is pulling $80k a year, but the point is made. Being in a stable job with no debt and good income, Larry is better in the long run...let’s hope Larry isn’t dumb enough to date Laura ;)
[–]executedigging1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So lets say both of these people are dating. She "settled" for him even though she is unemployed and $150K in debt with a worthless degree.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
As someone with a BA and an MA in a humanities subject from an elite university I wish I'd known this when I was 16.
Really though, STEM would have been the best decision... But learning a trade would have beaten what I did hands down.
I took BA 3 years, 1 year out to get more savings, 1 more year to do my MA. I also worked in catering on the side during this time. By the end I had some pieces of paper and 5 years experience as a waiter/barman. You can imagine where my friends who learnt a trade were after 5 years, and yet all through school we'd had it drilled into us that university was the best option no matter what. What a scam. I was young and foolish. I gave 5 years of my youth to a debt building scam and came out with next to nothing when I could have been getting ahead. If/when I have children I will never allow that to happen to them.
To anyone thinking about Liberal arts degrees: you better have some damn good family connections afterwards (journalism, politics) or want to become a University lecturer. There is nothing else in it for you.
[–]jb257120 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What is the best tech job now? I have my AA, but need to make more money. Just looking for some advice
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Blockchain, AI, or VR/AR are all understaffed and in high demand.
[–]jb257120 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks man I’ll check those out 👌🏻
[–]AngelTe20160 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If Larry is smart he will stay away from Laura. If they get married they will support MGTOW men with welfare.
[–]hellishcumbot0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The terrible thing is... I'm a Laura
Please kill me
[–]jaycee90 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wear safety glasses
[–]drew8080-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
This isn’t really a MGTOW post
Kinda is. Instead of worrying what others will say about you,your job and your "status" /smv...you just go a different way. More off your own way and have better results. A lot of men care about shaming and such so maybe post like this will give them more courage to think and act different without considering others opinion.
[–]drew80801 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good point, I agree your own way can be against the typical college system, this post just presents it as a man v woman thing when it’s more of a man v the status quo thing imo.
© TheRedArchive 2026. All rights reserved.created by /u/dream-hunter
[–]RadicalAsceticMonk125 points126 points127 points (10 children) | Copy Link
[–]massy52570 points71 points72 points (6 children) | Copy Link
[–]SardinesFordinna19 points20 points21 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]Sir_manalot22 points23 points24 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]anonymouslionn1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]MenGoingTOWin0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]massy5251 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]nonchalantfool[S] 24 points25 points26 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]talk_show_ghost11 points12 points13 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]Mgtoe1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 47 points48 points49 points (19 children) | Copy Link
[–]fmanly32 points33 points34 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[+][deleted] (1 child) | Copy Link
[deleted]
[–]fmanly0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]TheresNoCultHere18 points19 points20 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]massy5257 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points (4 children) | Copy Link
[–]massy5252 points3 points4 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]massy5250 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]massy5250 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]idrinkconcentratedoj2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]TheGreatUsername2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Thevoiceofreason4201 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]cypresstalker0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]banana_commando32 points33 points34 points (5 children) | Copy Link
[–]RedPillTruth105 points6 points7 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]banana_commando4 points5 points6 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]greywolf19684 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]Mgtoe1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Yashugan0024 points25 points26 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]ROCKSTARMANIC8 points9 points10 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]depth_charger6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Ubermensch-119 points20 points21 points (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]dragonsbless8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]rebuildingMyself17 points18 points19 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]The_Man116 points7 points8 points (5 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]AcrobaticAge1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]LordofTeh_Sun2 points3 points4 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]The_Man114 points5 points6 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]LordofTeh_Sun-1 points0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Itisforsexy6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]pleaseeatsomeshit5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]Jabronskyi2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]Willinbc2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]KodjoSuprem2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]irishluckk2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]probablyNOTtomclancy1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]executedigging1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]jb257120 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]jb257120 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]AngelTe20160 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]hellishcumbot0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]jaycee90 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]drew8080-1 points0 points1 point (3 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]drew80801 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link