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[–]UEMcGillMarried- MRP MODERATOR[M] [score hidden] 9 years ago stickied comment (0 children) | Copy Link
Well folks, he heeded my advice and erased it. No need to beat this to death.
[–][deleted] 23 points24 points25 points 9 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link
She's a solid 7/10, and has an older kid.
And looking for a new cuck to help her raise it.
After a few days of super hot, graphic sexting, her sending nudes etc, she's asking to meet up.
She's doing this because you are so hot and so special. She just can't quit thinking about what a great provider you will be....
It feels great to be chased and wanted by someone, I've missed that feeling. It's really increased my self esteem, etc.
Not self esteem, it is called validation. Validation that makes you feel good. Like offering a starving man a peanut, looks like a steak to a starving guy.
Long story short, she's to the point where she's begging me to fuck her. She's actually said she wants me to bareback her, and fill her with as many loads as I can for an afternoon.
This is because you are so hot. She has no other ulterior motive here. Just wants you to be her stud. Wow!
She's NOT on birth control, but is offering to take a Plan B pill once we are done. I've known her for 5yrs and there's no STD to worry about.
What could possibly so wrong - Daddy?
She knows I'm in a weak spot in my marriage, and she doesn't want to date me, just an afternoon of nasty sex. most likely a one time thing.
Well, of course, this happens to me all the time, especially from really sweet, great girls I haven't seen in years.
Nothing has happened yet, but my family is out of town all weekend.
Lucky you.
I'm SO TEMPTED go thru with this, but the other half of me has a sick, guilty feeling.
Feeling guilty will be the least of your problems Scratchy.
This started as a catch & release thing for me, but now its evolved into this.
You have my permission. Go ahead and do this now. Full speed ahead and ignore all those little torpedoes. They are just trying to make you feel guilty anyway. /s
Are you really this stupid?
[–]anythingincMRP APPROVED - Blue Pill Diplomat2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Perfect.
To expand on this; It is incredible that OP barely has his shit together enough for one woman and one child, and the thought of adding another woman, another child, and a baby-daddy into the mix is fucking "tempting." TEMPTING!
We truly are our own worst enemies in this life.
[–]IndyScn points points points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I'm not stupid, I'm horny and weak, but I'm working on fixing it.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
how? Because the way it sounds, you've decided to double down on being horny and weak
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Your initial reaction to my post, is a good diagnosis. Do you know what to do to fix it?
No. What do I do?
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
First see u/UEMcGill comments. They are gold for you.
Then: LIFT and READ THE SIDE BAR and see if you can start to become a better man. I warn you it is hard work. It is a commitment for the rest of your life to improve yourself. You may not ever fix your marriage, but you can fix you..... if you want to. Best.
[–]Seoul_Brother8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Dude wtf? Don't take her on her word that she'd take a plan B. If she wants to be filled with many loads and is "offering to take a plan B pill", I'd read that as a warning sign. You're about to make an anchor baby and she's about to dock on your assets brah... instead of having an FWB outside of your marriage, you're about to be obligated to be beta bux to two women LOL
[–]SteelToeShitKicker2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
OR she's already pregnant and looking for a better provider than Chad.
[–]Seoul_Brother0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh yeah that could be a possibility. Can't rule out anything
[–]Coniferous_881 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Agreed- this read like any other, "Should I fuck her or not?" post until that part. HUGE red flag.
In all fairness to her, I think she's only saying that because she knows it turns me on. She would be perfectly happy just hooking up in any capacity, even without bareback loads. She's newly single and horny.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
STOP DEFENDING SOMEONE TRYING TO FUCK YOU OVER
[–]Coniferous_882 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Right- she knows it pushes your buttons. Now, imagine yourself with her naked and aroused...she's climbing on top and begging you to stick it in, just for a minute, bareback. We all know how that goes. Do you have the self control in that situation to insist on the rubber?
[–]Seoul_Brother0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Any venture you take on for yourself, by yourself is something that you can trust in because you only have to hold yourself accountable.
If you have any hope for your marriage and yourself, just know that getting involved with another woman exponentially increases the risk of having a shitty time (ergo, new woman can screw you and your trust over by contacting your wife if you don't do more for her. AKA blackmail exists). Not to mention divorce destruction means you'd be responsible for paying out to your newly minted ex wife while she gives it away to someone else all while you pay her to do it. Sounds like you care about your wife and forgot that women can talk.
If I were in your position, I'd just try to channel that frustration into lifting more and doing more catch and release situations until you get comfortable enough that you can take your wife out to a dinner or something and have waitresses try to flirt with you. Passive dread is great and it works as such social proof that your wife will feel like she has to compete for you, therefore put out more.
But meh that's just me.
[–]BadMoles4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
IF you fuck her, for gods sake use a rubber.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Are you fucking retarded? Jesus christ. I want to call you a troll, but I'm guessing this is legit. I don't know how you got yourself here, but you have no frame, no abundance, and now you've sabotaged your shit more than when you started.
You replaced a deadbedroom with a fantasy oneitis... good job.
The whole point of catch and release is to learn and practice abundance, not to get oneitis for another girl (whom you aren't fucking BTW). You should never have a story of a single girl causing this shit, you should have 8 girls at arms length.
So, you clearly want to get your dick wet, sexual frustration. This is also not catch and release.
Then on top of that, you are walking straight into a girls frame That you aren't even fucking yet. I guarantee you haven't gotten through Tomassis Iron rules yet, since that birth control line is asking you to throw a baby into her. She's saying all the right things, and like a moron, you're believing all of it.
ignore what she says, watch what she does
And what do you have now? a girl wanting you to bareback her. I wonder if she's around 30 about now? perhaps you've read about baby rabies and the wall?
Brass tacks, you fucking avoided fixing you, instead figured playing 'playboy' was the answer to your problems. Now you played with big boy toys, and have a big boy scenario, but you don't have the big boy pants to deal with it.
Let me lay this out as clearly as I can. This woman is done, and she has you by the balls. She can easily send this to your wife, and will nuke your shit... What you may want to do is tap into all the beta bob bullshit you've learned over the last few years, and become as absolutely unattractive as possible. Your goal is to have her think of you as anything but fuckable. I believe in you, it's a task you should be up for.
Try everything. Tell her you love her, smother her with attention, attempt to buy affection, whatever you have to do to kill that libido. Then, when she decided you aren't worth fucking, she will move on.
Or, you can put on your big boy pants, own your shit, and just cut it off. Stop responding to everything like a bitch in heat, and if wifey gets a call, tell her flat out... "You haven't fucked me in years, I don't give a shit" and then she does what she does.
Or, fuck her, wrap your dick (don't be a moron) and stop freaking out because you achieved what you tried to achieve. If wifey asks, lie.
Considering your bullshit post, full of oneitis, validation whoring, sexual frustration, lack of frame, and lack of ownership, I'd strongly suggest you just next the whole fucking lot, and monk mode your life for a bit, till you figure out what you're actually looking for.
Children with Dynamite
[–]anythingincMRP APPROVED - Blue Pill Diplomat0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This is also not catch and release.
Right.
she's newly single and back in the dating scene She can easily send this to your wife, and will nuke your shit...
she's newly single and back in the dating scene
She can easily send this to your wife, and will nuke your shit...
She's not looking to just fuck on the sly, you don't need to be single for that, she's looking to home-wreck. I'm sure she has easier and better cock in her friends list, but she needs support and a step-daddy....so she scrolled through her list..
Which one of these sad orbiters looks desperate enough to fall for this shit...oh I know u/IndyScn.
This is NOT a stroke of luck or validation of your SMV OP. If it was her hot, childless little sister then maybe.
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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Man. Every now and again, another fight club or matrix reference makes sense
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You are probably being catfished by your wife
[–]Scrubpuppy4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
DO NOT. This is a trap.
Fix your shit or get a divorce, first off. How about you try being the man you'd want your kid to look up to?
[–]failberry2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She deserves a Lesson. Propose her only anal and oral. But for gods sake use a truck Rubber and bring It with you!
[–]top_footballer1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I'm on the flipside of your scenario.
She's from my past, I was her first, she reached out to me, she's in a 10-year relationship that has no spark but she won't leave him, we've sexted off and on for the past year and she's explicit in her desire to want to do all the hot, steamy, passionate sex we had when we were young and together.
I'm on the fence about it all. I don't know her man at all. I was in an LTR that ended recently so I'm not quite there yet.
She obviously knows what her relationship is all about, what it is to her and its dynamic, so I can only assume from her willingness to do this with me that it bothers her none.
By going on from what you've written here, you either have moral issues, or you do care for your wife and what this would do for her IF she found out.
Hope some of this has helped.
Thanks bro, this does help. I do love my wife and want to remain as an intact family. I guess I just need to find a way to get my wife to feel like this girl does (which Im working on).
I do love my wife and want to remain as an intact family.
No, no you don't. You simply hate making people feel bad
[–]top_footballer0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Only you know your relationship dynamic with your wife, but is it possible to somehow channel this external validation and attention at home so that your wife at the very least senses something that's desirable about you?
[–]drty_prMRP APPROVED1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your hamster is running wild in every comment you make. Your lack of frame is shown simply through your lack of congruence to you replys. If you want to fuck her, fuck her. Don't come her looking for approval.
My sex life is far from repaired. As I improve, it is slowly following along. I'll give it the 1 month/year of faggot formula. (You said 10 years. Have you given it a genuine 10 months? How long were you a bitch before marriage?) Looks like my wife has til sometime this fall to spread em more. If not, it's not her fault and I'll either take some side or I won't. What I won't do, is come here asking everyone if it's ok. I'll make a decision out of my own frame and own it.
Also everything the millionaire at the top comment said is spot on. A divorced HB7 is not so desperate that her only options are some friend on FB. Cock is literally everywhere. Go over to TRP. Those are all just good looking dudes, who are sitting at a local bar, looking to take your snowflake to pound town. She wants more 1000%!
[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
but is offering to take a Plan B pill once we are done
Don't fall for that shit. /u/[deleted] pretty much nailed it.
Whatever you do, do it in your frame because you want to do it for you.
Right now, what's going on is that you're desperate to get your dick wet and for some validation. You'll do anything to get your dick wet.
I think you're improving some, read up on some Game, and decided to try it out on some woman you wanted to fuck in college and never did. You think this is your chance to "prove" how attractive you are.
It isn't.
Here's what will happen if you fuck her. You'll do it again and again, until one of you catches feelings. Or she gets knocked up. You think she'll take a Plan B? Nope. One of Tomassi's Iron Rules is "Never let a woman be in control of the birth (control)." And then either way you'll be under pressure to divorce your wife and get with her, when you haven't fixed anything.
Here's a better plan. Lift, read the sidebar and start doing the sidebar. Figure out what you want for your life, and then do the things that will get you that. Not going to kid you, that might include divorcing your wife because she'll never get on board with the "new you" (if and when you ever get there). It'll be hard work.
Best of luck
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I am not going to comment on what you should or should not do, other responses here are doing that already. I am only going to predict what you are going to do. You are 100% going to go fuck this dirty slut and there is a high chance the following results will come from it:
[–]boomerachi2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Once you cross the line of actually cheating, you can't come back. I think it's better to leave a spouse if you are that unhappy, and then start seeing other people. Actually cheating is like dread level 12 and I don't think you're anywhere close to that. Honestly I think you would regret it. Keep working on yourself and up your dread game. Read TFA's blog and make your wife into a woman this exciting.
Use this experience as a confidence booster to keep growing.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think it's better to leave a spouse if you are that unhappy, and then start seeing other people.
You can think that, divorce lawyers can disagree. Not that OP cares anyways, he didn't bother to look into it.
[–]UEMcGillMarried- MRP MODERATOR0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Fuck her, don't fuck her. I failed to get out of this what you want? Do you want OpSec? or do you want a way to back this down with little fallout?
If you want us to talk you out of it, that's not what we're here for.
Yes, I think I'd like to know how to de-escalate this gracefully. /u/FireTempered post hit home. This is obv pure validation. I'm the starving guy being offered a steak. I guess I'm also a little disappointed in myself for letting it get so graphic even it its just been via text.
[–]UEMcGillMarried- MRP MODERATOR2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Well for starters you need to erase every little thing you have. Do you think she's capable of just walking away on this? What kind of woman is she, boil a bunny kind or just clingy with poor decision making?
If she's a bunny boiling kind, for whatever reason you're going to be alone this weekend undo it. Go with your wife, whatever, just have a plausible excuse so when shit shows up on facebook and she stalks you it looks legit. Then turn into a big baby bluepill and tell her you were crying, tell her how conflicted you feel. Tell her you recently got hit with a lawsuit and think you're going to loose a lot of money. What ever you need to do to make her think you are a big faggot looser who's about to be broke. She'll see her next branch to swing to as a tiny twig incapable of supporting her.
Or if you think you can get away with it, straight up tell her "Yeah, I made a mistake, I don't think this is the way to start a relationship. I'm at a bad place and not thinking straight, I hope you understand."
In the end, no matter what the fallout, own your shit.
She's cool and she's not the bunny boiling type at all. She's actively dating other guys she's met on POF currently too, so it's not like she's "all in" with me after just a few days of graphic sexting.
u/UEMcGill is telling you straight here. He isn't goofing around. Good stuff for you. +1
[–]UEMcGillMarried- MRP MODERATOR0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well then you know what you need to do.
is she, boil a bunny kind
LMFAO! more coffee damage to the keyboard.
[–]Seoul_Brother2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ultimate form of abundance: reject her advances and be satisfied that she offered in the first place, work on yourself, hit the gym, father your child and be a great dad, find a hobby and the wife will start noticing.
[–]Nyquil-Junkie0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh she's gonna fuck you alright.... she's gonna shove that child support 3 feet up your ass.
[–]yayaja670 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dude, red flags all over the place. You need to abort, cease, and desist immediately.
[–]luckyguy190 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This woman is willing to nuke your marriage and you want to trust her to take Plan B the next morning? Come on dude.
Her sending you nudes has already crossed a line, your wife will see this as you already cheating no doubt.
Use this a motivation to get the relationship with your wife back on the right track, or leave your wife before your fuck around.
ever hear about the one armed fisherman?
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