Logic is Subjective.

weakandsensitive · 2019-01-15T14:57:30+00:00

I feel like this is better suited for a different subreddit, like purplepilldebate, because it lacks practicality.

mrp_awakening · 2019-01-15T13:15:06+00:00

I could write a novel refuting this. Don't have time for that, but my main points would be:

Logic is objective... it has to be. Logic flows from basic rules, and is predictive. For example, A causes B which causes something C, etc...
Men overwhelmingly use logic to solve problems. If C is a problem and B causes C, we can address B, or even A if A causes B. Women can use logic to solve problems too, but often don't.
Women operate on a completely different emotional level than what most men can even understand, and as a result are oftentimes driven by emotion. Their emotions in the present feel like objective reality to them, and they act accordingly. But emotions can change on a dime, and with it their objective reality. How many people here have seen their wife angry about something and trying to take it out on the husband, only to have the husband hold a cool frame and 15 min later she's all bubbly and happy as if it never happened? In chick logic emotions drive their "objective reality", and they use "logic" to explain their emotions or behavior after the fact. It's always rearward facing, and never predictive like true objective logic.

In your example, she fucks the bartender because he feelz exciting. When pregnant, she's in a different emotional state and craves security. 12 years later, his lake of a spine makes even different feelz and she doesn't feel secure or attracted. In the RP world, we can use objective logic to explain these stages... but no woman is logically planning out these stages, or rationalizing any of it. It's driven by her present emotions that are encoded for in her genes. Evolution is logical.

In the tinderella example, the woman is probably tired of getting pumped and dumped and writes no ONS because she feels bad about them. However, when hot guy swipes right and messages her, she gets excited, forgets the bad feelz, and pursues him. It's all about current feelz.

Current emotional state drives their reality... not logic like you or I understand. And if you try to combat emotions with logic, you'll lose every time. Don't use logic from your vantage point, and especially don't use logic from her vantage point. That's why you don't argue with your wife... she's playing by very different rules that you can't even understand. Remember that her emotional capacity is way beyond yours. The way to win is to not fight, keep your emotions under control, and in 15 min hers will change.

BobbyPeru · 2019-01-15T07:52:50+00:00

GENDER AND REPRODUCTIONThe logic of men is different to the logic of women however men often take this to mean 'Men are logical, women have no logic'.

Women are perfectly capable of using the same logic as men when it suits them.

As far as the rest of your essay, i get what you’re saying, but I think you made it more complex than it needs to be. The logic tree can move in many different directions depending on the point you are trying to prove, and that’s where the subjectivity comes in.

Reach180 · 2019-01-15T14:44:30+00:00

WE ARE ALL SELFISH PIECES OF SHIT

Why does prioritizing self interest make for a piece of shit? Who is supposed to look out for you, if not yourself?

Your entire conclusion is basically a 3rd grade understanding of sexual selection.

Cam_Winston21 · 2019-01-15T15:08:17+00:00

It was better when Bill Burr explained it.

SiegreicherMarsch · 2019-01-16T01:37:53+00:00

Logic is Subjective.

Please debate with reason and logic if you disagree.

Congrats, you're a living example of a funny t-shirt worn by philosophy students.

Persaeus · 2019-01-15T11:41:25+00:00

Lot of words to defeat your own hamster (male solipsism).

Focus less in the why,and more on the how.

MrChad_Thundercock · 2019-01-15T18:42:02+00:00

“Math is discovered”

No. Math is a combination of inventions and discoveries. We invented mathematical concepts—numbers, shapes, lines, etc, and went on to discover the complex connections among the concepts that were invented.

I get what you’re saying though.

For newbies, the practicality of this post is twofold:

1) A woman’s logic only makes sense if you add the words “right now” after EVERYTHING they say- because their realities are very fluid. Their feelz are constantly changing.

“I didn’t want to fuck the bouncer last night” she probably didn’t want to fuck him until she did (right then in the moment).

“I want to go to Hawaii for our anniversary- you never take me on trips (right now)” -even though ya’ll just got back from Europe last summer. Right now, she feelz like you’re not doing shit for her.

2) To help with your daygame conversational skills, stop thinking logically. Not thinking logically a way to talk forever and never run out of things to say. This is how to get rid of “what do I talk about?”. Get out your head, and more into the overall feelz of the interaction. Everything you say has value, simply because it comes from you. The logic of it is irrelevant. Can talk about multiple topics all at once, see if she hooks on any particular topic - and then you got your hookpoint and then can zero in on that to gain rapport.

Aechzen · 2019-01-16T12:45:54+00:00

You lost me at trying to connect quantum theory with sexual strategy.

Dude, go have some fun sex, and write up a field report instead of this.

I've taken an actual college level Predicate Logic class, and nothing I learned applied to your post.

Red-Curious · 2019-01-16T16:18:10+00:00

If logic is subjective, then the logic you used to write this is also subjective, so there's no real point in having written it in the first place because your logic might not apply to anyone else.

VickVaseline · 2019-01-16T21:40:24+00:00

General relativity and quantum theory have yet to be united in a Grand Unified Theory, but that does not mean that they conflict, and indeed they do not conflict.

WorkWorkZubZub · 2019-01-16T21:40:48+00:00

If you mean that there can be multiple logical conclusions when they are based on different, incomplete sets of information, sure.

If you mean that there can be multiple logical conclusions based on the same or complete information, then no.

Throndor_Rising · 2019-01-19T23:40:37+00:00

You need to steer clear of the moral/cultural/nihilistic relativism bro.

That shits toxic, and largely (and by largely, i mean ENTIRELY) why we are witnessing an upside down dystopia unfold before our eyes in modern society.

When this empire is destroyed by a stronger culture that isnt sending their women to the front lines while seemingly more interested in playing grabass and sucking each others dicks, relativists will be exterminated by the conquerors because that shit is cultural poison.

A more detailed and intricate look into Foucault, Derrida, Marcusse et al reveals that they were BDSM homos that spent their dying years trying to get pedophilia legalized in their home countries which "consensual" sex with children as young as the age of 7. This is fact. Read "Eros and Civilization" and "Sexual Morality and the Law" and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petition_against_age_of_consent_laws and decide for yourself if you don't believe me. They were fucking pedophiles man. All that shit they're teaching the new generation of man-children in college in their "critical theory" "Humanities" and "Diversities" classes; the ramblings and thought pattern of known pedophilia advocates. It's fucking disgusting.

Their relativist "pathology"; well that's how a child-raping pedophile's mind works to rationalize the world they see as "oppressive" towards them.

We grow strong men with constitution here. If you dont stand for anything, you fall for everything. This is why men lead, and "fluid" women follow.

We have the convicts running the prison these days, and the degeneracy is not going to continue forever, so i suggest you work on developing some stern resolve, instead of adopting the "fluid" postmodern faggotry theyre heaving upon you.

Logos > Ethos > Pathos.

Emotional appeals are for faggots and women that cant win on a strong sense of logic and or ethics.

Thats my word.

Taipanshimshon · 2019-01-15T13:11:01+00:00

Did you also understand that your own logic is subjective and you can’t convince your wife to fuck you ?

Xertez · 2019-01-15T07:35:39+00:00

!RemindMe 12 hours

SteelToeShitKicker · 2019-01-15T16:51:34+00:00

I believe that people always make the best choice, according to their values, that is available. However, I wouldn't rebrand logic to encompass the cravings of a crack whore.

wildtimes3 · 2019-01-16T00:45:28+00:00

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proving_a_negative

BluepillProfessor · 2019-02-02T23:38:45+00:00

TLDR: Give less fucks about your wife's bad behavior.

Neither the Universe nor women are obligated to make sense to you. However, if you want to predict the behavior of elementary particles (or women) you need to disregard what makes sense and logic and sometimes just go where the data takes you.

NMMNG_1 · 2019-03-22T13:44:36+00:00

You're speaking of things you know nothing about.

Dash_of_islam · 2019-01-15T06:08:54+00:00

Logic itself is as true as mathematics. And logic as a discipline is extremely useful when deconstructing and constructing arguments

Like logical fallacies show us lots of different mistakes human brains make when taking a short cut to prove something. We discovered these when we switch ourselves breaking the rules of logic THAT we understood. From this we check ourselves to make sure we are not committing logical fallacies and like magic our arguments become more difficult to refute. But all of this is predicated on reality. Physics informs us of reality which informs our understanding of logic since the most fundamental laws of logic can be proven with data the same way we can prove addition and subtraction with marbles to a child and everything else is built from that basic irrefutable foundation

It's our understanding of it's rules is changing as we gain more data and understanding.

Like the laws of the universe exist independent of our existence.

Like Newtonian physics followed by relativity when Einstein entered the show which explained so much more and disproved some of the classical physics constraints that Newton predicted.

Logic is Subjective.

Synonyms for logic

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Title	Logic is Subjective.
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