Whenever someone discusses male issues, many people come up with the "who set the system" to basically dismiss the problems. They talk about patriarchy basically to derail from the actual discussion which to some extent is right but only Islamist countries. We also don't find any correlation that highly patriarchal societies actually cause more male suicides. It's actually the opposite, Male suicide is more prevalent in western countries where the laws and social norms are much more liberal comparative to the extreme patriarchal Islamic countries.

So I've debunked the myth that men set up a system which causes more suicide. Also, it's pretty ignorant to say that men "choose" the system that sets them up for failure. They blame the entire issue on men to get rid of any accountability to actually change something for better, for both genders. A common scapegoating technic.

Similar to the racists who blame Jews of controlling the world and demoralising. They just talk bad about jews but actually do nothing about the supposed "control". They don't try to dismantle it. They just want someone who they can blame.

They actually never speak up against money being involved in politics, politicians doing insider trading, politicians giving grants after getting money, politicians giving special treatment to their friends. These are complex problems and people need simple solution any there isn't any.

The racists want to blame jews but not ask their senator or candidate on why they change their stances all time and why they're doing insider training. They don't challenge political lobbying. They literally do nothing but fight with some imaginary Jewish illuminati.

It's the same when misandrist blame men entirely without seeing the broader picture on how healthcare fails them or how we generally treat people in this individualistic society. "Men set the system up", "men set the patriarchy". Give us a chance we will get rid of it but what happens when people who claim that they're gonna make things better?

Just white women appeasement. For example, the polar opposite of Islamist and patriarchal society would definitely be Sweden but what has the feminist government has done to benefit men? Nothing! Just maintaining the status quo for the white women as usual.

Nothing done about forcing men to conscript.

Female only grants

Female only scholarships and much more discriminatory policies

They are actually the part of the problem. Fighting with imaginary oppressor ain't going to help. Sweden is still a capitalist country where money matters the most. Rich still control the policies. Taking objective actions takes effort and both sides lack it. They're not advocating for any policies or have any idea to what they need to do. They're just mad.

Lemme know more facts so I can add it in the post.