Does this make me a troll?

Leprecon · 2011-02-03T13:59:46+00:00

Honestly, I think it is trolling. Maybe you think it is something they should see, but if feminists were to come here and massively upvote feminist articles and websites we would be pissed off as well. I hate it when there are "mensrights" websites that are just about how men should no longer oppress women. Let them have their community because we want ours.

If you want to change an opinion you have to be upfront about it. By being sneaky like that you only annoy.

conn1e · 2011-02-03T10:23:18+00:00

No, as a feminist myself, I'd say this isn't trolling. Feminists can't be equal if men aren't.

knowless · 2011-02-03T18:21:38+00:00

That is the opposite of trolling. A true feminist will realize how degrading mens' rights will eventually lead to the degradation of everyone rights.

Like the redefinition of rape, there would be more opposition if there was a unified sexual equality movement that included strait men.

Sorry, included the voice of strait men, I guess you can go to LGBTQ meetings and not be gay..

Legolas-the-elf · 2011-02-03T20:53:09+00:00

It is both. This is trolling the "bad" feminists while supporting the "good" feminists.

Chauvinist feminists who are solely on women's "side" will interpret it as trolling. They will perceive it as disruptive and, if not against what they stand for, at least distracting from it.

Feminists who truly believe in equality will find some of the articles of value and will not consider them to be disruptive, but rather part of their movement.

You could consider this to be a litmus test for how valid the claim that feminism == equality is for any particular feminist community. Participate with an obviously male name posting articles and comments regarding men's rights and see how they react. If they treat you as a troll or outsider, they are chauvinists. If they welcome you, they are not. In my opinion, some or many will reject you vociferously, one or two may defend you if you explain yourself in an apologetic tone and get lucky, and the rest will remain silent and let you get banned with tacit approval. You can call it "the gazebo test" if you're feeling egotistical :).

Having said that, posting every story you see here is a bit much. A significant number of the articles here aren't that great. Limit yourself to the best ones, keep the signal to noise ratio good, otherwise you just undermine yourself and you really are nothing but a troll.

treeva · 2011-02-04T02:15:08+00:00

Feminist can be kind of a misnomer. A true feminist should care about gender equality and would therefore want to read articles about gender issues facing men. After all, we're all in this thing together.

Then again, trolling is often more about intent than content - are you trying to be antagonistic or raise awareness about gender issues?

I think a little more of the latter and less of the former could help all of us quite a bit.

2011-02-03T09:15:53+00:00

Siofsi · 2011-02-04T01:19:21+00:00

No, it's not trolling. Feminism at its heart is supposed to be about equality (not control), so you're doing a good thing for everyone by sharing information. I for one would be happy to come across more information that lead to better critical evaluation of a movement, both pros and cons. There are assholes in every movement though, just ignore them; half the time they've only half looked into an idea and use it to label themselves. Keep on spreading information.

2011-02-03T08:05:26+00:00

kloo2yoo · 2011-02-03T16:14:53+00:00

that's awesome:)

thetrollking · 2011-02-04T17:28:37+00:00

Why? I mean, really, WHY? Why do you want feminist acceptance? Or female for that matter? Feminists will do nothing more than to try and put you in a different 'man box' while holding you to their standards. Men need to really think about who creates the cultural ideals of maleness or masculinity. It seems to me that feminists, seeing that their movement can't go any farther without men, are fighting with non feminist women over who gets to control the male identity and how it is defined. Basically if you think being held to a feminist standard of accountability or maleness will liberate you then you are full of it. Feminists, and women in general, do not have your best interests at hand. Only theirs.

I will not be part of any male movement defined, controlled, or lead by females or feminists. Neither will the majority of men. But go ahead and bend over and take a feminist dildo up the ass and join them as they appropriate and colonize your identity and freedom. I won't stop you, I will just laugh at you and say fuck off and do my own thing.

MGTOW is the best thing you can do. A army of individuals looking after their own interest in common good is the strongest force on the planet. This is why feminists practice identity politics. It's about dividing men to conquer them. They, like most women, are master at twisting up male-male compeition and playing lets you and him fight while they reap the benefits.

killergazebo · 2011-02-03T16:32:41+00:00

EVERYTHING or just the best of the best on discrimination?

also, what response are you getting? I am more concerned with that than if it qualifies as trolling

ZenaLundgren · 2011-02-03T14:43:15+00:00

Do whatever is effective. This is war. Do not take the high road. http://www.the-spearhead.com/2011/01/27/should-men-tame-their-rhetoric/#comment-67233

Title	Does this make me a troll?
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Upvotes	18
Comments	24
Date	February 3, 2011 7:46 AM UTC (15 years ago)
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