Don’t let ignorance destroy a movement with legitimate claims! Just an example of some of the things I’ve been seeing...

plathd · 2018-05-07T18:58:12+00:00

You need to take class into account. Rich white men are doing fine. However in the UK, a recent report stated that poor white males now get the "worst start in life"; at the same time, a recent Labor party youth convention barred straight white males from attending. So there is definitely merit to OP's general sentiment, even if his claim is both Western-centric and incorrect.

It's difficult to quantify as there are too many variables involved to make such sweeping statements. Nevertheless, it is a fact that white males are being attacked in the media and discriminated against in schools and the workplace. Poor white males in the US are now suffering at least as much as other poor demographics and probably more, since feminist intersectionality stresses helping women and "people of color" while viciously attacking white males regardless of socioeconomic class.

Privilege theory should be rejected for a number of reasons, foremost because it is virtually impossible to quantify just by looking at someone. There are Native American men who have lived charmed lives, and there are white women born into the upper class who have been abused as children, suffer severe depression and live in misery. I think structural (class) inequalities should be addressed, but this is not going to be accomplished by focussing primarily on identity.

Since white males will continue to make up the majority of the western male population for at least a few more decades, the end result of feminism will be the rapid growth of the far right, and possibly a return to an extreme form of patriarchy. Ironically the men's rights movement -- regarded by feminists as their biggest foe -- is the only way of saving them from their own stupidity.

bufedad · 2018-05-07T18:31:26+00:00

You don't think White Males are the most discriminated against, at least in the first world?

Let me introduce you to the internal communications exposed from Google...

Lethn · 2018-05-07T19:00:26+00:00

Well at least you provided a quote there so I give you credit for that. If we're extremely generous towards your point of view, let's actually look at your evidence. I happen to have seen the exact post your talking about and there are two there, that's it.

The people who upvoted this are 20 counting the OP, maybe, if we're really generous to you 16 of the upvotes on the other post are all original so that's 36 people in total, this number is pathetic in comparison to rest of the sub. How exactly do these 36 people represent the sub? You are being cowardly and this is classic behaviour from somebody who is not concerned with the subs appearance but wants to use these sorts of posts as a way of controlling this movement.

Feminists and the left are going to use anything they can to smear MRAs, they always do, don't be so concerned with trying to keep up appearance when any intelligent person looking at these posts will understand with the way the sub is run there will be people who post shit like this.

This reminds me so much of people who come onto the Ancap sub whining about Neo-Nazis while completely ignoring the fact that anti-capitalists can freely post there too.

rainman206 · 2018-05-07T19:19:44+00:00

Seems like there has been a growing conservative element in this sub. It's unsurprising, considering the current political climate and the pseudo-political nature of the sub.

Thats not inherently bad; Mens Rights issues are felt on both sides of the spectrum and people might actually find common ground.

However, I've been taking far too much personal shit here for respectfully expressing dissenting opinions. I've been called a waste of air, a soyboy, and told to kill myself.

Like, what the fuck is that about? The slippage from TD, and the redpill to this sub is really shitty.

RacelessSexlessName · 2018-05-08T00:11:37+00:00

yay I'm in a screenshot... but not the top circled one 😂 I stand by what I said in it tho? 😂

Title	Don’t let ignorance destroy a movement with legitimate claims! Just an example of some of the things I’ve been seeing...
Author	ckershaw6
Upvotes	32
Comments	64
Date	May 7, 2018 6:07 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/8hpku3/dont_let_ignorance_destroy_a_movement_with/
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