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#fuckthematriarchy?

TembaHisArmsWider

April 26, 2022
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Title #fuckthematriarchy?
Author

TembaHisArmsWider

Upvotes 316
Comments 30
Date April 26, 2022 11:21 PM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/ucpmls/fuckthematriarchy/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/fuckthematriarchy.1113267
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[–]throwaway20210821 66 points67 points68 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't count on any mainstream economic movement or ideology (like antiwork or lying flat) to help in this.

The men's rights movement should imo be trying to work towards making it easier for men that are down on their luck and disadvantaged employment wise.

From stories like the one below, it is for certain that single and divorced men particularly are discriminated against when it comes to seeking public assistance. Do not expect any non men's rights movement to address this any time soon. The men's rights movement must take initiative if they can't bear seeing this kind of thing play out:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/twnvs5/have\_you\_ever\_asked\_for\_help\_and\_been\_treated/

[–]IllustriousPiano7300 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is the problem with affirmative action and their insistence on closing the pay gap.

The pay gap exists only if you compare all men to all women. Men are less likely to take time off work for children, and therefore earn more. Also historically men had careers while women didn't, so in the 40-50+ age bracket men are obviously going to earn more.

Instead of waiting 50 years for everything to balance out (now that young women get degrees and have careers) feminists got too impatient. They're forcing balance by making young women overrepresented compared to young men to make up for the historical unbalance. It's gone too far the other way.

[–]MRA_TitleIX 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is the problem with affirmative action and their insistence on closing the pay gap.

Affirmative action isn't as widespread as people think. The problem is far more insidious. OCR, the agency that enforces civil rights in schools, doesn't care and is okay with discrimination against men. If a complaint is strong enough that they can't dismiss it, they won't apply penalties and remedies that dissuade others from doing the same thing. At best OCR requires a change to the program and that's it.

This bullshit isn't a result of affirmative action. It's a result of OCR choosing who has civil rights and who doesn't.

[–]OldEgalitarianMRA 61 points62 points63 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Student loan forgiveness is a bailout of females who are most college graduates.

[–]throwaway20210821 22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

You will be told (in mainstream left politics) that accepting that is part of the process of creating a more equitable and just world and if you oppose it it's reactionary.

In mainstream right politics, they'll just meme about it and say that people need to pull themselves up their bootstraps.

And articles will be run in the media pretending to be concerned about men falling behind (particularly young men starting off with very little in finances), just to rub it in more.

​

It would be great if the NCFM could address this issue at some point. There are lot of incentives being given to women that result in underemployment among men (particularly men that are neurodivergent and have difficulty with social skills), but all you will hear is that men aren't smart enough to keep up and the men that are doing fine will have no sympathy for those that have fallen behind. Such conditions make for good recruiting of frustrated men into political causes but this is how much even "anti woke"/"anti mainstream" politics ultimately care (as in they won't even leave threads up):

https://np.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/uawudq/rmenkampf_a_subreddit_that_exposed_hateful_woke/

Bottom line: it's up to men's rights movement to step up on this issue, as no one else will (as with any issue that affects men). Sinking efforts into mainstream or even alt political causes that aren't specifically oriented around men's rights are a waste of time (ironically those same causes are the first to say that about the MRM).

[–]ImplodedPotatoSalad 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Which is why equity should never happen.

[–]throwaway20210821 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, unfortunately previously it was mostly tradcons on the conservative side that pushed for this. Now it's intersectionalist feminists that are present on the liberal and even far left side pushing this too.

Equality will be hard to achieve when women's empowerment is being pushed at all costs by the government and even many companies even as men start to perform more poorly than women overall. What's the solution of course? More women's empowerment (assuming you leave the solution up to non men's rights groups, you will always get more of the same).

[–]OldEgalitarianMRA 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

With teachers and the entire education system pushing the female oriented programs where test scores are downplayed over classroom behavior, private schools are better for boys.

But how do we stop a group that has very few males, like teachers, and little motivation for helping boys as all political orgs push females.

I've had some dates with older teachers and they are full on gender warriors.

[–]throwaway20210821 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

With teachers and the entire education system pushing the female oriented programs where test scores are downplayed over classroom behavior, private schools are better for boys.

Depending on who you ask. There is the potential for "just go to a private school or get homeschooled" to be a cop-out reason for allowing public schools and universities to function as they do now.

Aside from more conservative and religious people, public schools and universities are the main options for most. You can guess why hardline conservative and religious people push private schooling and homeschooling so much too, it's a package deal for them and a way to spread their lifestyle. But does it benefit men as a whole?

It is like telling boys to not get "useless" degrees and go into STEM. Now STEM is oversaturated (just like computer science was previously), there are "women in STEM initiatives" and the same problems are unfolding again.

There is no definite individual solution for systematic problems. Could all of this been convincingly brushed aside as an individual problem that even most MRAs would have accepted? Yes, but then just like with everything else, individual problems are said to be everyone's problems (including student debt, not enough people in a certain field) when women are concerned. So if women's problems are systematic and require/demand attention but men's problems are not, obviously many MRAs are going to take issue and not be satisfied when individual solutions are posed to men's systematic problems.

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But how do we stop a group that has very few males, like teachers, and little motivation for helping boys as all political orgs push females.

Contrary to popular belief though teachers can only do so much. The problem with underemployment lies just as much with the government and companies that see it as their duty to ensure "the future is female" and push women's empowerment at all costs. Sometimes it is coerced by the government and sometimes it isn't.

These policies though, like many policies disadvantaging males, are almost always pushed by feminists and tradcons.

[–]OldEgalitarianMRA 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What needs to happen is a change from the Dept of Education and initiatives like the White House Council on Men and Boys would go a long way to bringing about some change. Otherwise forces in education disadvantaging boys goes unapposed.

[–]YetAnotherCommenter 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Student loan forgiveness is a bailout of females...

...and middle-and-upper-class people as well.

Given how big credential inflation has gotten, and how universities keep pumping out woke poison, and how the impact of student loan forgiveness will be just like a regressive tax (i.e. proportionately worse for the poor than the wealthy), student loan forgiveness should be absolutely opposed. Add in the gender aspect (how such forgiveness will be mostly-male taxpayers subsidizing mostly-female students) and you have an ironclad case for why MHRAs should also oppose such student loan forgiveness.

[–]barthvonries 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Wait wait wait.

How can "Who were recent high school dropouts => 133" (line 4 from Table 1) and "Who were recent high school dropouts and unemployed => 238" (last line table 1) exist at the same time with those values ? 238 can't fit in 133 ?

"Recent high school dropouts (133)" includes "Recent high school dropouts and unemployed (238)" and "Recent high school dropouts and employed (-105)", right ?

Or is the value inflated to 238 because it's 2 groups, "recent high school dropouts regardless of employment" and "unemployed males regardless of recent high school dropping out" ?

[–]Stephen_Morgan 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's comparing to the number of women, it just means that male recent high school dropouts are more likely to be unemployed.

[–]cnccc6 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I might be wrong but I believe it is compared to every 100 women with the same circumstance. So you should be looking at the numbers on the right more like a ratio (100:x) than as a population.

So in this case, less % of women that are recent dropouts are also unemployed as well compared to men, who are already larger in number when only looking at dropouts.

[–]highedutechsup 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/chart-of-the-day-for-every-100-young-women-in-october-2021/

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/hsgec.pdf

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[–]TembaHisArmsWider[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

India? I’m from there so I’m unfortunately familiar

[–]vhisic 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

oh you sneaky! i was looking at the numbers thinking okay we do alright in some thing. then i realised literally everything with a low number was a good thing and the high ones were bad things.

[–]MrElderwood 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If Feminists had the balls to own up, and admit that it was never about 'equality' but about 'female supremacy', at least we'd all know what page we're on.

Those last 2 lines on the table are, frankly, incredible! Women are given leg-ups to get into Uni/College, to stay there (in the form of financial assistance) and then are even seemingly favoured in the job market post-education. What's the point in men getting qualified anymore?

[–]MRA_TitleIX 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you are in a domestic US college/university and want to do something about this bullshit let me know in a comment or DM.

My complaints have prompted action already, and they are stronger if students are there to help me get evidence or tip me off to violations.

Step 1 in ending this accelerating trend is ending the discrimination at schools. This is something we can do.

[+]silly_little_jingle -11 points-10 points-9 points 4 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

Must be tough being so oppressed....

Edit: Since people seem to be either overly sensitive or just plain silly- this was very much freaking sarcasm ffs.

[–]ThumpingBump 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Think people are misunderstanding you here mate.

[–]silly_little_jingle -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It would seem so as this was sarcasm at how some claim oppression in first world countries lol.

[–]FalconTrash 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah it actually sucks ass, thanks for sympathizing

[–]silly_little_jingle 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The fact that people can't understand how dripping with sarcasm my comment was is fairly sad. Women in first world countries act like the biggest fucking victims as statistics prove that in nearly every way they are anything but.

[–]FalconTrash 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I got your sarcasm, you just didnt catch mine. I thought you were talking about men! Wasnt clear from your original comment, read to me as "cry more, manbabies"

[+]OW0974 -9 points-8 points-7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Source?

[–]TesticalDefibrillate 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s at the bottom.

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[–]highedutechsup 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Really low iq here. The stats for women are on the same sheet.

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