It's sad how...

TorontoIntactivist · 2015-07-24T00:44:06+00:00

You are banging your head against the wall because you are dealing with human psychology.

Men, especially men that women regard as of being lower status, are considered disposable. There is really no lower group in the eyes of society.

Only when MRAs start fighting with savvy and tenacity will the larger part of society take us seriously.

alclarkey · 2015-07-24T08:31:14+00:00

It's internalized misandry. Really. The "women are wonderful" effect, and the "men are awful" idea feminists have drummed it into us caused it. We are all just a bunch of neanderthal rapists who do nothing but smash beer cans on our heads and run over puppies in our monster trucks.

MadTrini · 2015-07-24T01:31:18+00:00

What we are witnessing is the exploitation and abuse of millions of years of evolutionary programming.

Men by default are programmed to care more about the issues of women and girls. And women are programmed to care more about themselves. These traits guarantee the safety and protection of women; even at the expense of men. It is what allows the species to propagate and keep creating offspring.

Its why MRM will never ever gain traction.

Lethn · 2015-07-23T22:12:00+00:00

As somebody who is into Bitcoin, It's not an exaggeration or arrogant to say that people here are dramatically ahead of the curve. This will make sense once I explain it, but I am an early adopter of cryptocurrencies as are many people I talk to.

We constantly see this kind of thing in the media, they outright make up bullshit and act as if they know everything when really they're just making it up. Sometimes they've even blatantly made things up and people are dumb enough to believe them in the masses.

The media has a powerful grasp on certain people, something that you should bear in mind is that political ideologies like feminism has been around for decades. They have wormed their way into every facet of society and have a tight control over these media outlets themselves. Mens Rights on the other hand is a very young movement by comparison and people know little about it. So basically they'll end up believing what the feminists tell them until they see otherwise happening.

The same thing is going on with Bitcoin that is going on with MRA, the best thing you can do is just constantly counter their bullshit with facts. It will take a lot of patience, lots and lots of patience, but I've see that the majority of people on the MRA side are rational and fair eventually the feminists will throw a trantrum and lose their patience as they keep doing.

Politics like this is an endurance test, it's not going to be won by simply taking over media or winning a political office or two, in the end the ones with the facts and the scientific reason are going to win not the ones who are hysterical and constantly use underhanded tactics against their opponents.

DevilishRogue · 2015-07-23T22:09:16+00:00

Do you ever think there will be a time when men start taking their rights seriously? Not just a few MRM men, but most of society.

No. Male disposability means that this will never become mainstream. But that doesn't mean all the efforts of the MRM are wasted. Awareness raising, improved equality under law, improved funding for those in need, etc. are all moving in the right direction thanks to the MRM.

tallwheel · 2015-07-24T03:20:23+00:00

It's sad how...

...people sometimes don't write what the thread is about in their title; forcing us to click if we want to find out.

Tedesche · 2015-07-23T22:59:52+00:00

The social script is that men are not victims of discrimination—men are just abiding by that.

Personally, I think part of the problem is that white, middle-class men are not overwhelmingly affected as a class by most issues of discrimination. Men of color who are discriminated against attribute said discrimination to racism, because that is in line with the social script. Working class people of all stripes are often not educated enough to even have relevant concepts of what discrimination, prejudice, and bias actually are, and take their cues from the mainstream media.

Furthermore, in the dating game, women of color may be more likely to expect/demand that their dates pay for them. I say this solely based on my personal experience however, so I'm open to the idea that I'm just not exposed to the many white women that do. In my experience, white women are, on average, more open to going dutch. This is why—also, in my experience—men of color are more likely to endorse the view that the dating game is unfairly biased against men.

So, again, I think the problem is that white, middle-class men are not feeling the effects of discrimination so much. The issue is obviously a lot more complicated than just this, but I think that's a major factor.

MRSPArchiver · 2015-07-23T21:07:26+00:00

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Title	It's sad how...
Author	Jernlov
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Date	July 23, 2015 9:07 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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