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MSNBC blames MRAS for another mass murder.

ThePigmanAgain

January 8, 2022
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https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/denver-s-mass-shooter-was-tragically-predictable-white-male-misogynist-n1286995?icid=msd_topgrid
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Title MSNBC blames MRAS for another mass murder.
Author

ThePigmanAgain

Upvotes 30
Comments 61
Date January 8, 2022 10:05 PM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
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Comments

[–]ThePigmanAgain[S] 31 points32 points33 points 4 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

They also blame Whitey, of course, but it is this bit that concerns us...

"It feels almost a bygone conclusion at this point that a mass shooter will have a history of domestic violence and/or a connection to the “manosphere” — online hotbeds of misogyny, like the incel (“involuntary celibates”) community or men’s rights activists."

They can't get us in any honest way, so they accuse us of encouraging murder.

[–]No_Seaworthiness9625 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Only god knows how many horrendous crimes perpetrated by the femtards are Hidden by the establishment, is not like mainstream media isn't a feminist-controlled place, by our own video cameras and experiences in latin america, we know that all feminists are violent rioters.

[–]ThePigmanAgain[S] 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It probably does happen, but the hate crime nature gets covered up like with the black guy who hated on White people then ran over dozens of them, killing several. In Germany a few years ago, there was the rather suspect case of Sabine R., which, if the sexes had been reversed, would have been reported in the Anglosphere as soggy knees gone rampant yet again.

https://thepigmancometh.com/2010/09/21/is-this-woman-a-female-george-sodini/

[–]Adanu0 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Do they ever give actual proof?

[–]63daddy 30 points31 points32 points 4 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

So many problems with that article. The victims in both the McLeod and Rogers killings were both men and women. Neither was targeting women specifically. In fact Elliot Rogers killed more men than women but of course the focus is in him killing women.

The article stated most angry men end up spree killing, etc. That of course is a blatant lie.

Notable feminist Valerie Solonas shot Andy Warhol, it doesn’t follow all feminists are to blame for her actions.

[–]ThePigmanAgain[S] 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

"The angry man who hates women online so often turns into the angry man who opens fire"

SO OFTEN. So, it happens once in a blue moon -- she herself can only cite 3-4 cases -- yet it happens "so often." You might as well say the same thing of black radicals hating Whitey online since a tiny minority of THEM end up shooting some Jews in a deli, or running down a Christmas parade, or bashing an Asian to death. But the rules are different, i suppose.

[–]63daddy 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s news because it’s relatively rare.

[–]nocivo 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I love how they never talk about the 2 years of lockdowns that probably are driving many people crazy and increasing their issues.

[+]bloodfuel -8 points-7 points-6 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

But men are more likely to go on violent sprees than women

[–]ThePigmanAgain[S] 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So? Is anyone arguing with that claim?

[–]63daddy 18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

More women initiate domestic violence. So? It doesn’t mean all women are responsible.

Same thing with men. All men aren’t responsible for the very small minority who go in killing sprees.

It’s a guilt by association mentality.

[–]No_Seaworthiness9625 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Most dangerous offenders were raised by abusive, neglective and violent single mothers including most mass shooters.

[+]bloodfuel -10 points-9 points-8 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Is there evidence that the same doesn't apply to single father households? Furthermore women have lived in single mother households also, so why aren't they causing as much violence?

[–]ThePigmanAgain[S] 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

If i recall correctly, the studies show that single mothers are far more likely to raise scumbags than single fathers are.

[–]bloodfuel -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Source? Does this study take proportions into account?

[–]maxlvb 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

  • 80% of all prison inmates, and 90% of all homeless and runaway children, came from single mother homes.

Bob Ray Sanders, “Hey Y’all, Let’s Fill The Hall (Of Fame), Ft. Worth Star Telegram, Oct.28,2007

  • 63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes – 5 times the average.

(US Dept. Of Health/Census)

  • 90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes – 32 times the average.

  • 85% of all children who show behaviour disorders come from fatherless homes – 20 times the average.

(Center for Disease Control)

  • 80% of rapists with anger problems come from fatherless homes –14 times the average.

(Justice & Behaviour, Vol 14, p. 403-26)

  • 71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes – 9 times the average.

(National Principals Association Report)

  • 70% of inmates in state juvenile detention centers serving long sentences, were raised by single mothers.

Wade Horn, “Why There Is No Substitute For Parents”, IMPRIMIS 26, NO.6, June, 1997

  • 72% of juvenile murderers, and 60% of rapists came from single mother homes.

Chuck Colson, “How Shall We Live?” Tyndale House , 2004, p.323

  • Two thirds of all children murdered, are murdered by their mother.

Source: U.S. Dept of H&HS website ‘Child Abuse Statistics by Relationship’ March 2013

75% of all adolescent patients in chemical abuse centers come from fatherless homes – 10 times the average.

43% boys are raised by single mothers. 78% of teachers are female. So almost half of the boys have 100% female influence at home, and 80% influence at school. Toxic masculinity is not the problem. The lack of a masculine influence in the boys lives is.

  • Children with Fathers who are involved are 40% less likely to repeat a grade in school.

  • Children with Fathers who are involved are 70% less likely to drop out of school.

  • Children with Fathers who are involved are more likely to get A’s in school.

  • Children with Fathers who are involved are more likely to enjoy school and engage in extracurricular activities.


Men need feminism like bicycles need fish.

[–]bloodfuel -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Statistics on fatherless households?

[–]ThePigmanAgain[S] 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

LOL! Do the math. If 80% of all prison inmates are from single mother families, than the very worst that can be said is that the other 20% are from single father families, meaning that mom is at least FOUR TIMES more likely to raise a criminal than dad! Christ, even i managed to figure that out and i'm CRAP at math!

[–]bloodfuel 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That 20% could also be from households with both parents though

[–]ThePigmanAgain5 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

That's why i wrote "the very worst that can be said..."

[–]bloodfuel1 point 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Oh, my apologies, you're right.

[–]ThePigmanAgain[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Can't remember.

[–]No_Seaworthiness9625 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Connor Betts was a male feminist and an active antifa member, elliot rodger was suscribed to multiple leftist channels in YouTube and not a single rightwing one LOL.

[–]imgurRefugee85 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The problem is the media uses that big number to scare people into thinking they're all random acts of gun violence. However they hide the fact that most of those 600+ are gang and drug related. But hey, inner city gang violence doesn't produce the right kind of victim worth talking about in this modern non-racist media. r/s . In their crusade against white men they openly ignore the suffering of black children and that somehow makes them feel like the good guys.

[–]ThePigmanAgain[S] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Alas, yes. Typical of SJWs, she doesn't care about black people being shot to pieces, she's just interested in shitting on White men.

[–]imgurRefugee85 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I grew up in those "inner city" areas. I was lucky to escape, emphasis on escape. To see people using this suffering to push their agenda without addressing what's really going on. Really bothers me. If you want sources for my claims I can provide.

[–]erik-the-first 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

Like any group, there are toxic members and good members. Judging an entire group by the worst members is typical feminism.

[+]bloodfuel -13 points-12 points-11 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

Yeah but men have overwhelmingly more toxic members

[–]ThePigmanAgain[S] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men, and a certain group too sacred to mention. So what?

[–]No_Seaworthiness9625 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Abortion statistics say otherwise

[+]bloodfuel -7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Ok let me be specific. Men generally cause more crime and are more violent.

[–]ThePigmanAgain[S] 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

As i said before, the same can be said of one politically-protected group. What does that say about the average, law-abiding member of that group? Not a hell of a lot.

[–]bloodfuel 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

What group? And how can the same be said? Examples with sources please

[–]ThePigmanAgain[S] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Can't do it. Like any truth not popular with the IdPol tyrants, it would be reported as hate speech. It is, in ACTUALITY, called that by the ADL!

[–]bloodfuel -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

If it is feminists say a if it is women say b

[–]ThePigmanAgain[S] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You said what now?

[–]bloodfuel 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I gave you a covert way of answering my question. If that doesn't work you could always just message me instead

[–]ThePigmanAgain5 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

If i did you would probably report me for hating peaches.

[–]bloodfuel1 point 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

If you were to dm me saying a single word even if I did report you it wouldn't work

[–]ThePigmanAgain[S] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Did you just call my member toxic?

[–]bloodfuel -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

no, just saying explaining why some are so inclined to generalize.

[–]ThePigmanAgain[S] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Woosh.

[–]Clemicus 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Phrasing

[–]g1455ofwater 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It blows my mind how some random bozo says something on the internet that is the wrong opinion and mass amounts of people will get all worked up and go after them like a hellhound, but then you have massive powerful media groups conducting organized extremist hate campaigns against men and white people and they face minimal criticism and are allowed to keep their social media accounts and are allowed to keep their broadcasting credentials and don't get prosecuted and sent to jail.

The more power they have the less accountability is expected of them which is the exact opposite of how a just society is supposed to work.

[–]reddut_gang 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

fuck nbc

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The source of the article is tragically predictable: non-white, female and misandrist.

That title is just unbelievable. Prejudice, sexism and racism to the max. This is not an article and not a title, this is just hate speech. But hate speech is ok when is is tragically predictably comes from a non-white, female and misandrist source.

[–]BeepBeepYeah7789 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I hovered over the link to get the title of the original article.

Tells me all I need to know.

[–]Antique_Ingenuity705 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

FATHERS keep sons out of jails and daughters out of sugar poles.

[–]TheSilverShade 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Seems like their go-to strategy to eliminate men groups they don't agree with.

This is what happened to MGTOW.

Perhaps when they'll be done blaming all the men focused groups, they'll blame themselves who knows.

[–]alclarkey 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

700 Mass shootings eh? Next you're going to tell me Santa Clause isn't real.

[–]LettuceBeGrateful 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Title: Denver's mass shooter was tragically predictable: white, male, and misogynist

Subtitle: [Name of shooter]'s reported trifecta of white supremacy, male supremacy and the fetishization of gun violence are exhausting in their predictability.

So, are we now just treating white and male as inherently supremacist. Has this same author looked at crime rates in different regions of the country and published articles entitled, "Shooter was tragically predictable: black, male, etc."? Are terrorists predictably Muslim?

These idiots will never realize how they're constantly throwing gas onto the fire they shriek about wanting to extinguish.

[+]EnvironmentalWar4627 -21 points-20 points-19 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Seems like they are blaming toxic online spaces that are rife with misogyny and racism perpetuating the idea that there is a war on white men.

Like this

Or this

[–]ThePigmanAgain[S] 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

No, they clearly specify MRAs and you know it. Stop lying. Also, there IS a war on White men. Which race and which sex cop the most vilification these days? You know the answer as well as i do. Seriously, our mods need to get off their fat asses and ban YOUR fat ass!

[+]EnvironmentalWar4627 -8 points-7 points-6 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

The shooter said ""Aggro white males ARE violent & will be more violent as they are made irrelevant by a country that HATES them" before his spree.

I think anyone that thinks like that is a threat to society. And that's exactly the thinking of someone that believes there is a war on white men.

[–]ThePigmanAgain[S] 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

And that's exactly the thinking of someone that believes there is a war on white men.

I believe there is a war on White men but i don't agree with his statement, so you are once again lying.

[+]EnvironmentalWar4627 -11 points-10 points-9 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

So you DONT agree that white males will be more violent as the war on them continues?

[–]ThePigmanAgain[S] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

That's right, i don't agree with that. I think the level of violence carried out by males AS males and Whites AS Whites will stay at the same low level that it is at now. Political violence will increase, but that's going to be more about your friends in the Establishment trying to crush Populism. Hell, look at Jan 6th! Who got deadly? That's right -- Michael Byrd, the Establishment storm trooper who murdered Ashli Babbitt.

[–]EnvironmentalWar4627 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

So you agree there is a war on white men but don't think white men will respond with anything violent. I hope you're right.

[–]ThePigmanAgain[S] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Do you misrepresent EVERYTHING people say? Again, the mods need to ban you.

[–]EnvironmentalWar4627 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

" there IS a war on White men "

" I think the level of violence carried out by males AS males and Whites AS Whites will stay at the same low level that it is at now."

Seems that's exactly what you said so i don't see how "there is a war on white men but don't think white men will respond with anything violent." Is a misrepresentation.

I think you're just kind of angry now and looking for reasons to be angry. But it's that angry white man persona the article was warning against.

[–]ThePigmanAgain[S] 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So now you are lying AND implying i'm a psycho. Very nice.

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