Real question

shit-zen-giggles · 2023-07-18T00:23:44+00:00

was wondering what rights do women have that men don’t?

for starters: genital integrity. Female genital mutilation is outlawed pretty much everywhere, yet circumcission is legal and regularly practised, even for non-religous reasons
gender sentencing gap: so much for 'equal before the law'
child custody after divorce is another big one
growing up without a father hurts boys more than girls
systemic and systematic discrimination in education would be another one
The Men's Rights Citation List while somewhat dated has a pretty comprehensive listing

I’d also like to know how you all feel about the feminist movement as a whole?

I'm not a fan. Lets keep it at that.

g1455ofwater · 2023-07-18T00:53:17+00:00

Feminism is a supremacist movement that seeks to place women into a higher class than men. It's also a political tool.

I don’t want to write off men’s rights/ misandry without actually hearing anyone out.

It's hard to believe someone is genuine when they say something passive-aggressive like this.

If you want to learn about how men are discriminated against I think the best way to start is learning about Gamma bias: https://youtu.be/LHYRYKCIDxk

63daddy · 2023-07-18T02:12:57+00:00

Some laws that legally discriminate in favor of women:

Exempt from selective service

Affirmative Action for Women

WEEA

VAWA

Women owned business advantages

Women only healthcare advantages under Obamacare.

Some title ix rulings.

Stunning-Cost-5752 · 2023-07-18T00:35:06+00:00

In the US access to student loans, government grants, government jobs, and driver's license are blocked behind selective service registration.

Paternity fraud is legal most states have a window to contest paternity

duhhhh · 2023-07-18T01:18:10+00:00

Highly suggest you read this thread where pretty much the same question was asked a couple months back.

https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/130eya7/what_problems_bring_out_the_need_for_a_mens/

dependency_injector · 2023-07-18T05:23:31+00:00

In countries where conscription is a thing, conscripts don't have a right to move freely, to choose where they live, where they work, what they eat and so on.

And if you're drafted, you lose all those rights and freedoms, and in addition, the right to live and to have your health protected (I've heard being shot at and seeing people die isn't very healthy).

And by that I mean, you will be legally punished for trying to protect those rights.

denisc9918 · 2023-07-18T00:39:18+00:00

how you all feel about the feminist movement as a whole?

The feminist movement claims they want equality and pushes for quotas. That means Equality of Outcome which is despicable by itself but FF are even worse since they only want quotas in selected jobs not all, no feminist has ever argued for equality in Sanitation Workers, Coal Miners etc etc so Selective Equality of Outcome.

Check out this Dimwit... At 0.24 She says Equality is Equality of Outcome but after having that shoved up her nose by JP at 4.20 she says “What I'm trying to equalise is Opportunity”

Equality of Opportunity should be the goal.

OldEgalitarianMRA · 2023-07-17T23:57:57+00:00

Family law is heavily favoring women today. It's mainly because the laws are slow to change and society is very different from when the laws were written 50 years ago.

But that is changing. More and more states are passing custody laws that allow equal involvement of both parents after divorce. Default 50/50 equal shared parenting. Florida just passed this law.

With women having equal labor participation with men and 50/50 custody, child support will become less onerous, a real problem for men today.

With women continuing to work soon after having children the need for alimony will be reduced, another MRA area of concern.

This is one area, fathers rights but there are other clearly delineated slate of issues for the MRA movement.

denisc9918 · 2023-07-18T01:23:54+00:00

Just posted on YT.. This Is What Happens When Feminists Are Elected | The Definition Of Grapes

at 2.55 "The sheer hypocrisy of the movement is so blatant it's disgusting."

Langland88 · 2023-07-17T23:05:28+00:00

I will tell you my thoughts on the Feminist movement as it is today. It's a movement that's now been invaded by Misandrist women. They have hijacked terms like The Patriarchy and Toxic Masculinity as a way to demonize men and continue to blame all the issues in the world on men. Feminists today hate men regardless if they insist they don't. The only men they like are the weak soyboy simp types that they can manipulate to join their cause. Today's Feminists are mostly women who complain and blame all their own issues on men and they want benefits of men and accountability of women but the responsibilities of neither. That's what Jordan Peterson said and he's correct on this one.

griii2 · 2023-07-18T07:15:08+00:00

Check out r/SystemicSexism

Za__guy · 2023-07-18T08:36:43+00:00

For me it's marriage and family laws

You know too muny story of women geting the houses (aren't them) and alimony and that kind of shit

This law is for women as hell, the only reason it's it's rarly apply for men too is because government can't specify gender in her laws anymore

However marriage laws is purly for women advantage

First-Ad-4314 · 2023-07-18T03:16:33+00:00

The current Generations have a very misinterpreted view on feminism. I didn't think I was a feminist until I literally had to take a quiz to find out if I was actually a feminist, and it turns out I'm a passive second wave feminist. Equality doesn't mean the same similar is not the same. If I have five $1 bills and a $5 bill they have the same value but they're not the same. So equality means more equal opportunity not men should be treated like women and women should be treated like men. It's the idea that a person who is capable and willing to perform a job or to live I certain lifestyle should be able to without societal or financial prosecution. A true feminist absolutely supports men's rights, I can't even tell you how bad I want to see the movement progress. The thing I think is stopping men's rights from Gaining real momentum is the lack of real leadership. You can crucify me on that all you want but, you can't seem to agree on who your leadership should be. It is not Andrew tate, it's important that you understand that guy does not care about you. He cares to an extent but, not at his own expense. He is looking out for number one always. All the podcast guys, including Myron Gaines is worth $20 million a year. Do you understand that? 20 million a year yet he doesn't have any sort of foundation or hold any kind of rallies. He hasn't opened up a mental health center for men, and he charges $300 an hour for his consultation services. He is after the money. And he just hates women. He's as good as the man hating radical feminists that you see. A true feminist is absolutely on board with custody and alimony being equal. If you sign a prenup it should be upheld no matter what, you should get to see your child end of story

Anih1list · 2023-07-18T07:31:30+00:00

I’d also like to know how you all feel about the feminist movement as a whole?

I used to think feminism was a completely outdated concept since women have already achieved legal equality (and more) to men. Then I talked to some of my female friends, from which I learned:

The shocking disrespect with which many men treat women, especially sexual remarks and encounters.
The shocking disregard most women have toward men and our feelings. Many women basically don't treat men like people.

What may seem like common sense to a woman is a completely foreign concept to men. What seems like common courtesy to me is completely foreign to women. Feminism has its place, but is comically ignorant of Men's Issues even when it attempts to address them.

First-Ad-4314 · 2023-07-18T03:21:50+00:00

Then they're not feminists, and the story

Title	Real question
Author	girlbossyas
Upvotes	5
Comments	44
Date	July 17, 2023 10:54 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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