Saving Marriage at Scale

Milk--and--honey · 2024-02-15T18:43:19+00:00

I think it's very stupid to purposefully have children before marriage. Why would you make a baby with somebody you don't want to marry?

Also always get a prenup

63daddy · 2024-02-15T18:56:50+00:00

Just because happier, healthier people are more likely to be married, than unhappy people doesn’t mean staying in a bad marriage makes one happier.

Every guy I’ve known in a bad marriage was far happier after getting divorced.

WhereProgressIsMade · 2024-02-15T19:30:42+00:00

Both men and women are happier married.

Correlation does not tell you causation. It seems much more likely to me that happier, healthily people are more likely to get married than marriage somehow making people happier.

My premarital counseling was pretty wise in making sure neither of us were getting married hoping it would make us happier or that either of us had an expectation that it was the other's job to make us happy.

To be ready for marriage requires a lot of groundwork and preparation as a teenager and young adult. It seems like a lot of people hit 30 and still have not finished that stage. When I was searching for a wife, many women simply weren't ready for marriage or had too much baggage that they were simply too high risk.

The other big problem is more and more risks of marriage have been shifted from women to men taking what used to be more balanced into a one-sided deal.

keine257 · 2024-02-16T01:43:12+00:00

eternal peace between Palestine and Israel would be way more easier to achieve.

Metraxis · 2024-02-15T22:57:17+00:00

I disagree with the idea that marriage is worth saving. I married in the last millennium and have a good life but things have changed since then, and I cannot recommend the same decision to the men of today.

Session-Special · 2024-02-15T19:00:29+00:00

As long as women "feel" they are not equal. The hope of changing or enforcing laws that are equal is not going to happen.

Why? demographic information . bottom line more women are becoming lawyers. which means in time more judges....

In this article they ignore the part about the length of time a lawyer has been working. So the pay if of course is going to be the drill point. So are they inferring that because you graduate and you pass the bar you are equal. . . hmmm

That would be a question to apply in reverse Men in women dominated fields . . . should they automatically be at the top earning potential . . . because you know under representation.

Roamer56 · 2024-02-15T18:47:53+00:00

I see no reasons for saving marriage in any form. As far as children…8 billion on this planet is too many.

DoctorStorm · 2024-02-16T01:23:49+00:00

Saving marriage at scale?

The women have to not be sluts (good luck with that).
The men have to be worth a damn (they're dropping the ball these days too, just for obvious and good reason is all...but still...)
The economy has to not be shit (FUCK FUCK FUCK)
The government has to not be so obviously fucked and on fire shit (OH GODDAMNIT, FUCK FUCK FUCK, IT BURNS, FUCK IT BURNS)
The laws need to be changed (fucking obviously)
Shit and slut behavior need to stop being promoted, taught starting at fucking 2nd grade, incentived, and government funded (YES, FUCK ALL OF YOU PARASITIC BITCHES, YOU ARE A PART OF THE PROBLEM)

Now, give me your downvotes, you fat sluts. It'll make your cats feel better.

Electrical-Beat-2232 · 2024-02-15T21:31:21+00:00

P⁶

BoringExperience5345 · 2024-02-16T05:55:17+00:00

What is the data on both men and women are happier married? Is that just how you feel?

elebrin · 2024-02-16T14:30:33+00:00

I am in favor of people living and acting in family groups, but I think we need to redefine what that landscape looks like a little.

Why does a family group HAVE to be a standard, modern, nuclear family with two parents and some kids? Because my family doesn't look like that. I am the backup plan for maybe 4 close family members, all of whom are single adults. There is no reason whatsoever why a group of siblings and an aunt or uncle can't get together and live as a family unit.

NAWALT_VADER · 2024-02-17T01:20:02+00:00

Marriage is toxic.

moutnmn87 · 2024-02-21T17:54:40+00:00

I disagree that marriage is important or should be saved. The only benefit that pretty much all married folks want is choosing who is your closest kin that will make decisions if your incapacitated and inherit your stuff when you die etc. There is no reason this benefit should be restricted to romantic partners. A simple no hassle way to do this would be just as useful to people who are estranged from their family and want to name a specific friend or relative etc as their closest kin. There isn't really anything else in the marriage contract that should be universal. Married or not should have no bearing on child custody or asset division etc. Even lower taxes is discrimination against unmarried folks. So basically I would argue that the only benefit of marriage that should be universal should be granted to everyone who wants it regardless of romantic status and all the rest of it should be abolished.

Title	Saving Marriage at Scale
Author	ggleblanc2
Upvotes	24
Comments	42
Date	February 15, 2024 6:39 PM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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