Short question: Do men have weaker immune systems (as well as any bilological faults)?

Samantha_Cruz · 2020-03-26T15:38:45+00:00

one major contributing factor is that men do smoke at a higher rate than women (in the us this is only about a 3% difference with 13.6% of adult females smoking vs. 16.7% of adult males but worldwide nearly 40% of men smoke vs. only 9% of women.

however there are differences in the immune system that may be factors - not necessarily that the male immune system is weaker but it acts in different ways; with some diseases men are better adapted to resist those but in this one females seem to have an advantage - https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/20/health/coronavirus-men-women.html

JewishAnomaly · 2020-03-26T16:37:27+00:00

There is no scientific evidence to support the claim that testosterone lowers the human immune system. This is political pseudoscience.

Lethn · 2020-03-26T16:40:32+00:00

The big questions to ask is who is it that is making these arguments and why? Are they doctors simply stating it as a fact that they have discovered through research? Or is it just a bunch of feminists doing their usual thing of spreading biological misinformation about men in order to belittle and attack them? My money is on the latter.

I would be very interested in seeing some actual research paper on the immune system differences between men and women because this screams to me that feminists have taken some of these papers and completely misrepresented the research done by real doctors and scientists. I still remember awhile back when there were some studies being done into the differences in the brain between men and women and journalists were completely butchering what was actually in that paper and putting their own spins on it.

rabel111 · 2020-03-26T16:24:30+00:00

It seems to me that it would be awfully difficult or even impossible to separate the effects of biological differences between male and female people from the cultural differences between them.

Women are exposed to so much less physical hardship. They eat better. They receive vastly more medical support throughout their lives. People give a shit.

Is a man's immune system weaker because of testosterone, or is his immune system weaker because every time in his life he has sought medical support the entire staff has been teenage girls in yoga pants who sneered at him and called him a big baby for seeking help?

trash62 · 2020-03-26T15:48:03+00:00

I was told men have a higher rate of heart disease too. It would be nice to know why.

user_miki · 2020-03-26T15:19:47+00:00

No,As we know a lot of men are centenarians.

The problem is that nobody cares about men they work dangerous,stressful jobs ,and don't have equal access to health care.I hear that mantra with men smokers for 30 years and still men die. Men that did not smoke a cigarette in their life had a stressful life and nobody care.Their immune system is lowered by stress,

I heard about a new study on women that had high pay and stressful jobs They got medical problem more often than average women similar with those in men.

Happy wife ,you are dead.

Yoramus · 2020-03-26T16:52:07+00:00

There are some things in which men are more fragile. One that comes to mind is that females have two copies of the X chromosome, while males have only one. This makes women less susceptible to genetic defects in the X chromosome, such as daltonism. The other thing that comes to mind is autism. It is not clear if men are naturally more susceptible or women have just better coping mechanism but it is clear that men are most affected. So they have biological faults.

Women also have some of their own, like increased susceptibility to breast cancer and ovarian cancer. You say that estrogen lowers cholesterol and it is true. However many women after menopause have lower estrogen levels and this causes all sort of problems, like a much greater chance to develop osteoporosis.

source: wikipedia. You may want to check with a physician to have a better perspective

Let's look at it this way: nature doesn't give a fuck about you after you passed your genes or when your chances to pass your genes decreases. Everything goes to shambles when you pass your reproductive age. Women and men are a bit different but the principle holds.

In today's age, however, culture plays a significant role in how we treat our bodies and how much we care about others' bodies, so I'd say that culture is a huge factor today, more so than the intrinsic biological differences, that are there and are significant on their own.

TL; DR: It's complicated. Both men and women have significant faults of their own. But behavior and culture are even more significant then them.

Strikester101 · 2020-03-26T17:31:23+00:00

Weaker? No, different.

perplexedm · 2020-03-26T17:57:08+00:00

It's also argued that estrogen lowers the cholestrol in blood, hence women are less susceptible to heart disease.

But, very recently feminist were saying women were at highest risk of heart decease and because of patriarchy they are not treated well.

If men have such issues, why they are not protected ? Where are special provisions to take care of them ? Men are paying more in insurance, even compensate for women, men are even blamed for not going to hospitals, etc. etc. ?

How is it a 'fault' when men are born the way they are supposed to be by nature? Is it fault of women and their gender that they are born much much physically weaker than men ? Why women are getting special treatment even in military ?

dzkrf · 2020-03-26T14:53:29+00:00

I saw this a while ago and wondered why it matters.

drmode2000 · 2020-03-26T15:10:47+00:00

We would not know, because 99% of funding goes towards women, while men get nothing.

auMatech · 2020-03-26T21:15:30+00:00

Estrogen aside, why do you think many drug trials are carried out on men?

There's something about the heavy natural hormonal variance in women that makes it difficult to gauge results of drugs, or ailments.

Given that there was research claiming that covid-19 may spread to testicles in men, which was quickly removed may indicate that it has an easier time attacking men's bodies.

Title	Short question: Do men have weaker immune systems (as well as any bilological faults)?
Author	Strikester101
Upvotes	17
Comments	38
Date	March 26, 2020 2:49 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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